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	<title>Comments on: Israeli Prime Minster Publicly Brags He&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s Daddy, Punks Rice at UN</title>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/israeli-prime-minster-publicly-brags-hes-bushs-daddy-punks-rice-at-un/#comment-1791827</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
11:19 A.M. EST - 11:46 A.M. EST&lt;br /&gt;
    President Bush Discusses No Child Left Behind&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;8:30 PM EST&lt;br /&gt;
    3:30 A.M., Prime Minister Ehud Olmert also intervened with&lt;br /&gt;
    a desperate phone call to President George W. Bush&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The meeting began at 9:15 p.m. and ended at 10:15 p.m.&lt;br /&gt;
    Security Council&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is this correct? am i missing anything?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s see…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Sun rises in the East so it’s morning in Israel before our night is done. It’s still night in Israel at 3:30am (GMT-2 probably).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GMT would’ve been 1:30am probably.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;US time is GMT+5 (as I recall).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, we were at 8:30 probably.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It appears to me Bush may have spoken to Olmert about 30-45 minutes before the UN vote, but as you show, many hours after the 11am speech.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I think you’ve got it right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
11:19 A.M. EST &#8211; 11:46 A.M. EST<br />
    President Bush Discusses No Child Left Behind</p>
<p>8:30 PM EST<br />
    3:30 A.M., Prime Minister Ehud Olmert also intervened with<br />
    a desperate phone call to President George W. Bush</p>
<p>The meeting began at 9:15 p.m. and ended at 10:15 p.m.<br />
    Security Council</p>
<p>is this correct? am i missing anything?</p>
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<p>Let’s see…</p>
<p>The Sun rises in the East so it’s morning in Israel before our night is done. It’s still night in Israel at 3:30am (GMT-2 probably).</p>
<p>GMT would’ve been 1:30am probably.</p>
<p>US time is GMT+5 (as I recall).</p>
<p>So, we were at 8:30 probably.</p>
<p>It appears to me Bush may have spoken to Olmert about 30-45 minutes before the UN vote, but as you show, many hours after the 11am speech.</p>
<p>Yeah, I think you’ve got it right.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/israeli-prime-minster-publicly-brags-hes-bushs-daddy-punks-rice-at-un/#comment-1791778</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are many parallels and intersections between Israel and apartheid South Africa.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe 911 of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are many parallels and intersections between Israel and apartheid South Africa.</p>
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<p>Maybe 911 of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/israeli-prime-minster-publicly-brags-hes-bushs-daddy-punks-rice-at-un/#comment-1791629</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s news because their PM is openly bragging about how much he owns us. That’s not happened before, as far as I know.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s news because their PM is openly bragging about how much he owns us. That’s not happened before, as far as I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted666</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/israeli-prime-minster-publicly-brags-hes-bushs-daddy-punks-rice-at-un/#comment-1791593</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is Israel dictating US foreign policy considered news?  they have been in control of US foreign policy for decades.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Israel dictating US foreign policy considered news?  they have been in control of US foreign policy for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: FrozenNorthObserver</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/israeli-prime-minster-publicly-brags-hes-bushs-daddy-punks-rice-at-un/#comment-1791581</link>
		<dc:creator>FrozenNorthObserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Why is the United States of America taking orders from Israel?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thats a easy one. Because you are owned lock stock and congress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Why is the United States of America taking orders from Israel?”</p>
<p>Thats a easy one. Because you are owned lock stock and congress.</p>
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		<title>By: itwasntme</title>
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		<dc:creator>itwasntme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You could look at it from this viewpoint: Bush wants credit for expanding democracy in the middle east, his “real” reason for invading iraq and killing Sadam. He must therefore acquiesce to the demands of Israel, our traditional toehold and, literally,  our spearhead of democracy in the middle east. The policy of Israel is the USAs policy in actual fact. No reason not to let Olmert run it. (After all, he has balls).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, total support must be given to Israel the democracy, to further the Bush agenda of democratizing the middle east, his cover for having gone to war in Iraq by lying about WMDs. Bush wants to be able to add another notch for democracy in his gun and cover his real reason for attacking Iraq. he’s thinking about his long term legacy of bringing democracy to the world. From his point of view, this might make sense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe he really can ignore starving and dying children just fine, thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could look at it from this viewpoint: Bush wants credit for expanding democracy in the middle east, his “real” reason for invading iraq and killing Sadam. He must therefore acquiesce to the demands of Israel, our traditional toehold and, literally,  our spearhead of democracy in the middle east. The policy of Israel is the USAs policy in actual fact. No reason not to let Olmert run it. (After all, he has balls).</p>
<p>So, total support must be given to Israel the democracy, to further the Bush agenda of democratizing the middle east, his cover for having gone to war in Iraq by lying about WMDs. Bush wants to be able to add another notch for democracy in his gun and cover his real reason for attacking Iraq. he’s thinking about his long term legacy of bringing democracy to the world. From his point of view, this might make sense.</p>
<p>Maybe he really can ignore starving and dying children just fine, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/israeli-prime-minster-publicly-brags-hes-bushs-daddy-punks-rice-at-un/#comment-1791550</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;regardless of the veracity of olmert - what does seem clear though is the “silence of the jingosphere”
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Olmert’s willingness to humiliate Bush and Rice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>regardless of the veracity of olmert &#8211; what does seem clear though is the “silence of the jingosphere”
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<p>And Olmert’s willingness to humiliate Bush and Rice.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks t-bear, klynn, ratfood, praedor, saltinwound.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;just a wag now…. the time of the phone call makes some sense - if it was only an hour or two before the security council meeting i can see olmert calling bush directly rather than going through their staff.  but unless bush was making another speech that evening, olmert was most certainly embellishing the bit about pulling bush off the state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;regardless of the veracity of olmert - what does seem clear though is the “silence of the jingosphere”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks t-bear, klynn, ratfood, praedor, saltinwound.</p>
<p>just a wag now…. the time of the phone call makes some sense &#8211; if it was only an hour or two before the security council meeting i can see olmert calling bush directly rather than going through their staff.  but unless bush was making another speech that evening, olmert was most certainly embellishing the bit about pulling bush off the state.</p>
<p>regardless of the veracity of olmert &#8211; what does seem clear though is the “silence of the jingosphere”</p>
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		<title>By: Legion303</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legion303</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“he appears to be willing to do anything, with no regard for others, including the life and death of the people of his own country, including even the future viability of his own country, in order to appear bigger than life in his own mind.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I lost track…were we talking about Olmert or GWB?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“he appears to be willing to do anything, with no regard for others, including the life and death of the people of his own country, including even the future viability of his own country, in order to appear bigger than life in his own mind.”</p>
<p>I lost track…were we talking about Olmert or GWB?</p>
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		<title>By: Praedor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/israeli-prime-minster-publicly-brags-hes-bushs-daddy-punks-rice-at-un/#comment-1791500</link>
		<dc:creator>Praedor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you start your bed rest now, you may recover most of your sanity and intelligence by the weekend.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TURN OFF THE VID!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you start your bed rest now, you may recover most of your sanity and intelligence by the weekend.</p>
<p>TURN OFF THE VID!</p>
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