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Early Morning Swim

By: Blue Texan Tuesday January 13, 2009 4:44 am

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  • No end in sight.
  • And this probably isn’t helpful. 
  • For someone who doesn’t worry about being popular…
  • I’m sure he kills in Madagascar, too. 
  • Some good news. 
  • GOP looks to 2010.
  • Happily, only Tom Davis seems to get it.
  • But nothing unites wingnuts like gay-bashing!
  • Will Iran and Syria be there too [/neocons]?

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89 Responses to “Early Morning Swim”

Smgumby January 13th, 2009 at 4:46 am
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Zed!

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 4:46 am
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Mornin’, BT.

Only in Alaska.

Definitely in the “You can’t make this shit up” category.

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allan January 13th, 2009 at 4:51 am
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Some more good EPU’d news.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 4:54 am
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In response to allan @ 3

JHFC, the only thing the Rethugs can come up with is more corporate and capital gains tax cuts. Yep, give the rich more money and the economy will just leap out of a near depression.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 4:59 am
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*tap tap tap* Is this thing on?

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 5:00 am
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WTF-K

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:00 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 2

Some strange irony or obtuse justice or something else strange.

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T-Bear January 13th, 2009 at 5:02 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 5

pnly if you are a real kool nabob

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:03 am
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I probably should know, but what is a nabob?

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:04 am
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In response to Raven @ 6

That “Why am I the only one on the grinder?” feeling.

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 5:06 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 10

I copy, sometimes these long gaps between transmissions make be think I’ve been left all alone.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:07 am
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In response to demi @ 9

na·bob Listen to the pronunciation of nabob
Pronunciation:
ˈnā-ˌbäb
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Hindi navāb & Urdu nawāb, from Arabic nuwwāb, plural of nā’ib governor
Date:
1612

1 : a provincial governor of the Mogul empire in India
2 : a person of great wealth or prominence

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:08 am
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In response to Raven @ 11

Any station this net.
Any station this net.
This is Jacobs Times, K.

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 5:08 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 12

See Spiro Agnew.

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T-Bear January 13th, 2009 at 5:09 am
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In response to demi @ 9

from Nabob n. a European who has amassed a fortune in the East (archaic; used in Europe only); (in Europe) any person of great wealth, an important person. – Chambers (Scottish) Dictionary (no pronunciation guide).

Here used as persons of great self presumed importance. /s

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:12 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 12

Thank you SD.
Guess I’m not a nabob. Cool or otherwise.
And, we are not alone. When I first was coming to this site and I was the (seemingly) only one, I had this paranoid thought that no one liked me or wanted to talk to me, then I let that go and started thinking, oh, everyone else is either reading links or checking out stories elsewhere or are just lurking.
ps doesn’t stop me from being paranoid once in a while, tho.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:12 am
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In response to demi @ 16

Jest cuz yer paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get ya.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:14 am
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In response to T-Bear @ 15

Thank you too T-Bear. Especially for what it means here.
Still not a nabob. My own presumed self importance is related to my ability to feed the boys in this house really well. Most of the time. Every once in a while I say You’re on your own. Then, it’s soup time or left overs.

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TBoy January 13th, 2009 at 5:15 am
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Dim view from a dim wit

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:16 am
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In response to demi @ 18

Speaking of feeding, what are doin’ up this early?

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:16 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 17

Oh, in my college days, I had a poster up in my room that had that saying. ‘Cause it’s true, true, true, I tell you. I just don’t care as much any more. :)
Got tired of wearing my heart on my sleeve.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:18 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 20

Mister has to go to Torrance early and we always have our coffee together. He works for a company that does computer driven transcriptions, usually hospitals. Most times he modems in, but if its a hardware upgrade, he has to go to the site and that’s usually before or after the doctors are there to do reports.
(I’ll nap later, spoiled little thing that I am.)

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Waccamaw January 13th, 2009 at 5:18 am
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Dragon @ 2 -

Remember that TV series that was about small-town Alaska? Always thought they were spoofing the unusual things that happen up there……..not any more.

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T-Bear January 13th, 2009 at 5:19 am
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In response to demi @ 18

Every once in a while I say You’re on your own. Then, it’s soup time or left overs.

Survival training. ;-)

I’ve also used it chidingly in reference to Spiro Agnew’s remarks when insubstantial issues overshadow the substantial.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:20 am
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In response to demi @ 22

I remember the transcription section of VA hospitals. Thanked my luck stars I never applied to work in that line. Man, oh man.

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billybugs January 13th, 2009 at 5:20 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 2

If that ain’t irony I don’t know what is !!

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 5:21 am
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In response to demi @ 22

Torrance South Bay Torrance?

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jackie January 13th, 2009 at 5:22 am
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Morning All :)
OT, but this is awesome.
Nice Stand-Up Tim!

LOS ANGELES –’ Instead of joining his protester friends on the snowy sidewalk outside the Bureau of Land Management office in Salt Lake City, Tim DeChristopher took a seat inside. In a room milling with oil and gas men who knew one another by sight, he was the unknown in a red parka, registering as a bidder in an auction for the rights to drill on 149,000 acres of federal land. DeChristopher was handed a red paddle bearing the number 70. ‘
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02265.html

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:22 am
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In response to Waccamaw @ 23

Yeah, Sarah really put Alaska in the limelight. I guess it’s folks like Edward Teller that keeps the place from goin’ completely wacko. I was gonna say bonkers but then he always gets on me.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:23 am
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In response to Raven @ 27

Yep. Ain’t that one of your favorite cities? /s

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billybugs January 13th, 2009 at 5:24 am
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In response to demi @ 16

You’re not the only one who’s had that thought !

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:26 am
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In response to jackie @ 28

Nice to see WaPo finally catching up with this 3-week old story. That said it’s a nice update on the story.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:28 am
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In response to Waccamaw @ 23

I’m sitting here trying to remember the name of that show. I had a neighbor (at my last house) who was on that show. And, no, it wasn’t a fancy, high end neighborhood. Not at all. Everyone in LA knows someone in the biz.

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T-Bear January 13th, 2009 at 5:30 am
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In response to demi @ 33

Northern Exposure?

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:31 am
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In response to demi @ 33

Fargo?

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Bilbo January 13th, 2009 at 5:32 am
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Regarding the Guantanamo prisoners, I believe the Obama bellwether will be the president elect’s position on Mohammed Jawad whose confession was obtained through torture. His confession was thrown out by a military tribunal judge, but now the prosecution in the case appears to be seeking a federal court ruling reinstating the confession. Human rights groups are calling on Obama to act on the case:

President-elect Obama urged to halt Guantánamo trial

[Amnesty International and other human rights groups] also called on the President-elect to act on the case of Mohammed Jawad, another Guantánamo detainee charged for offences he is alleged to have committed when he was still a child. He currently does not have a scheduled trial date.

If the confession ends up being reinstated it will amount to nothing less than tacit validation of torture. Somewhere recently, I read that the transition team was thinking about trying to establish an extra-judicial system wherein confessions obtained through torture would be admissible. Apparently (and thankfully) this initiative seems to have been abandoned.

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 5:34 am
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In response to demi @ 30

My mom lived about 4 blocks from Del Amo. I spent a good bit of time there in her later years. My sis is in Hawthorne.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:34 am
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T-Bear wins.
(But, points for SD ’cause I love that movie.)

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:35 am
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In response to demi @ 38

Not bein’ a teebee watcher I was pulling stuff outta my…

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Waccamaw January 13th, 2009 at 5:36 am
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Yeah, I worked *real* hard to make that comment as inoffensive as possible. *g*

Wrt the DeChristopher story, that was my exact thought when it finally cropped up at wapoo.

Northern Exposure it was. Thanks, T-Bear.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:38 am
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In response to Raven @ 37

My luck was having one of the cartoonists for Hanna Barbera living across the street from me in Tujunga. He had the coolest house. We both had stone houses but his was sunk down 3 feet.

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Waccamaw January 13th, 2009 at 5:38 am
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#40 to Dragon and T-Bear…..

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:38 am
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In response to Raven @ 37

I could be wrong, but I’ve never thought of those places as bastions of liberal thought. Ha. Course, it’s not like that where I live either. I see my little town of Sylmar as a Hispanic Mayberry. Kind of a one cop town. Fairly rural for Los Angeles. Still see horses being ridden and there are some small farms and ranches here and there. Some wild critters.

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T-Bear January 13th, 2009 at 5:39 am
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Altz-whatsitz hasn’t overcome yet. That show was the last “product” from the US I ever watched, catapulting the bull was awesome, on so many levels. ;-)

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:40 am
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In response to demi @ 43

I was livin’ in San Diego when the Sylmar quake hit and took out the VA buildings.

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 5:41 am
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In response to demi @ 43

Nah, too much $$$ to be liberal, specially down by the water.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:41 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 41

I love those stone houses. Wish I lived in one. Grew up in what used to be called Stonehurst. It was originally made to be a sort of resort for Hollywood folks to recreate in. Near Hansom Dam, where I rode horses as a kid.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:43 am
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In response to demi @ 47

Cold as shit in the winter. They were built so long ago there’s no insulation.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:44 am
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In response to Raven @ 46

Yes, for the most part the $$$ = conservative is the rule. But, then there are the money folks in Santa Monica , West Side and the Hollywood Hills who are liberal. ???
Nice to have some exceptions to the rule, huh?

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:44 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 48

IIRC I think that’s why Tom bought the sunken one. It retained heat better than ours did.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:45 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 48

Yes, but cool in the summer, no?

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:45 am
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In response to demi @ 49

Most of my well-heeled pool customers were leftists. With the notable exception of Charles Bronson. World class asshole.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:46 am
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In response to demi @ 51

I’ll give ya that.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:49 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 52

On the other side of that, Jill Ireland was one of the nicest, warmest, caring folks I met in LA. A real yin/yang, that couple. I dreaded Bronson being home when I got there.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:49 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 52

One of the things that I didn’t appreciate while I worked at the studios was the high percentage of lefties. Now that I’m temping in mostly small business, I usually encounter only republicans. :(

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:50 am
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In response to demi @ 55

Ya got something against lefties? *g*

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:51 am
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In response to billybugs @ 31

Sorry billy, I got side tracked talking about ME! Ha.
How’s our bug boy today?

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 5:53 am
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In response to demi @ 47

My bro stays in Sherman Oaks and my sis’s old man grew up in Reseda.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:53 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 56

I didn’t appreciate how many like minded souls I worked with at the time. Didn’t know that when I left the studios, I’d be stuck working with folks like your boss! Ha.

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billybugs January 13th, 2009 at 5:54 am
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In response to demi @ 57

Jus’ buggy !!

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billybugs January 13th, 2009 at 5:54 am
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In response to billybugs @ 60

Perusing the MSM !!

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 5:56 am
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In response to Raven @ 58

I lived in Sherman Oaks for a couple of years. Going there sometime this week because they have the only music store that has sheet music. Going to pick up some flute music to perform at church.
And, many used to consider Reseda the **shole of the Valley. The only good thing I can say about that town is that Tom Petty called it out in, which song was that? I’m pretty sure you’ll recall.

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Crosstimbers January 13th, 2009 at 5:57 am
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OT: This may have been discussed elsewhere and I missed it. Anyway, we got impressive looking invitations to the “neighborhood” inaugural ball yesterday. My wife an I had made occasional small online contributions during the campaign. The funny thing was that we had always made them separately, each with no reference to the other. The invitation, in fancy script was to Mr. and Mrs.. Someone had to compare names, addresses, and reach a conclusion. They really do have one heck of a data base and an effective staff.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 5:58 am
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In response to demi @ 62

When I lived in Tujunga Sherman Oaks is where we went for the latest films.

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SouthernDragon January 13th, 2009 at 6:00 am
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Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 6:02 am
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In response to billybugs @ 61

Please report to us. Thanks.

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billybugs January 13th, 2009 at 6:02 am
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In response to demi @ 62

Free Falling ?

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 6:03 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 65

You be good to yourself too.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 6:03 am
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In response to billybugs @ 67

I love a man who knows his Petty.

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acquarius74 January 13th, 2009 at 6:04 am
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I wish BlueTexan had included this video over at alternet.

http://www.alternet.org/audits/119372/

Be prepared for almost uncontrollable anger at what you see.

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 6:05 am
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In response to demi @ 62

Free Fallin. Yea, I’d never been there and his dad died. He’s disabled so I spent 3 days in this little house trying to find a will that didn’t exist and getting it ready to put up for sale. Weird deal, I felt like a grave robber.

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billybugs January 13th, 2009 at 6:06 am
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In response to demi @ 66

Must go join SD in his swim !

We’ll talk later ,have a good one !

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 6:06 am
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In response to demi @ 69

Have you seen the Documentary by Bogdanavich? “Runnin Down a Dream”, awesome film.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 6:06 am
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This has been another edition of D..D..D..Demi and the Vets.
It doesn’t happen very often, but I surely enjoy it from time to time.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 6:08 am
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In response to Raven @ 73

No, I haven’t. I wonder where I can find that. DVD?

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billybugs January 13th, 2009 at 6:09 am
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In response to demi @ 74

Too much caffeine this morning !!!!

O K really gotta go now ,I’m wicked late !!

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 6:11 am
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In response to billybugs @ 76

Don’t get in to trouble.
((BB))

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JPL9 January 13th, 2009 at 6:11 am
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Christy is up with a post about the SCHIP program.

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Raven January 13th, 2009 at 6:14 am
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In response to demi @ 75

Yea, it’s down to $15 on Amazon or try Tower records. It’s killer, the movie is 2 dvd’s, then they have the 30th Anniversary Concert in Gainesville on DVD and a CD of outakes.

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demi January 13th, 2009 at 6:18 am
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In response to Raven @ 79

Yes, I was just googling it.
For $15, I could get that. Still have some Xmas gift $. Ooooh. I’m excited now. And, after looking at some of the sites, I might have seen it on the Sundance Channel. Vaguely familiar.
Thanks Raven. You’re a doll.

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RevBev January 13th, 2009 at 6:21 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 12

Thank you for that; I always thought VP Agnew made it up…

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T-Bear January 13th, 2009 at 6:34 am
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An Opinion in AlJazeera is well writen and researched for fact, and very well worth the time to read.

Who will save Israel from itself?
By Mark LeVine

One by one the justifications given by Israel for its latest war in Gaza are unravelling.
The argument that this is a purely defensive war, launched only after Hamas broke a six-month ceasefire has been challenged, not just by observers in the know such as Jimmy Carter, the former US president who helped facilitate the truce, but by centre-right Israeli intelligence think tanks.

The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, whose December 31 report titled “Six Months of the Lull Arrangement Intelligence Report,” confirmed that the June 19 truce was only “sporadically violated, and then not by Hamas but instead by … “rogue terrorist organisations”.

Instead, “the escalation and erosion of the lull arrangement” occurred after Israel killed six Hamas members on November 4 without provocation and then placed the entire Strip under an even more intensive siege the next day.

http://english.aljazeera.net/f…..60741.html

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acquarius74 January 13th, 2009 at 8:08 am
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In response to T-Bear @ 82

T-Bear, I just finished reading that article. I agree, it is a very well balanced piece portraying the tragedy which both Gaza and Israel have and will suffer – much of it self-inflicted due to fanatical blindness to the other’s point of view.

There needs to be more light and less heat in all discussions in the august halls of government as well as among the common citizens. I am not hopeful of that after reading much about the statements coming from Israel’s and USA’s governing heads, nor OTOH, from reading the comments posted on the article you cite.

I am particularly disheartened after watching the video for which I gave the link at #70. I would appreciate your views on that film.

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bluebutterfly January 13th, 2009 at 8:27 am
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Secretary of State-designate Hillary Clinton said on Tuesday the United States must address Israel’s security needs and the Palestinians’ legitimate aspirations as part of a pragmatic U.S. foreign policy.

The New York Democrat also said the United States must pursue a foreign policy that “effectively challenges Iran to end its nuclear weapons program and sponsorship of terror and persuades both Iran and Syria to abandon their dangerous behavior and become constructive regional actors.”

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1055163.html

Nobody has found any evidence of a nuclear weapons program in Iran.

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bluebutterfly January 13th, 2009 at 8:32 am
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In response to acquarius74 @ 83

Really bad news in that video. Don’t these people have a conscience? Run to where? Genocide is compassion now, is it? There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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bluebutterfly January 13th, 2009 at 8:43 am
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Too funny..apparently, not too many reporters wanted to be there for the Decider’s last press conference.

Further complicating his last-minute legacy rehabilitation: Nobody seems to be paying attention. The White House had high expectations for yesterday’s final, historic news conference. “ONE CORRESPONDENT PER ORGANIZATION,” proclaimed the bulletin sent to reporters. “STANDING ROOM ONLY FOR NON-SEAT HOLDERS.” But when the appointed hour of 9:15 a.m. arrived, the last two rows in the seven-row briefing room were empty, and a press aide told White House interns to fill those seats.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/…..ush-press/

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acquarius74 January 13th, 2009 at 8:56 am
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In response to bluebutterfly @ 86

hee,hee,hee…Good comments, too. The Navy guy said command performances in Navy were called ‘Hertz-Rent-A-Car’.

Bush exits singing, ‘Just Me and my Mirror, all alone and feelin’ blue’

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acquarius74 January 13th, 2009 at 9:08 am
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In response to bluebutterfly @ 85

I guess we know who Bush & Cheney’s admirers are now.

Singing and dancing gleefully over the pain and suffering Israel is raining down on the imprisoned people of Gaza . . . they forgot so soon the walled-in Jews of Warsaw, starving, no heating fuel, no communication with the outside – and finally their justified rebellion.

All those interviewed sounded like Bush clones, “My way or the highway”.

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T-Bear January 13th, 2009 at 9:55 am
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In response to acquarius74 @ 83

Thank doG that kind of ignorance is not given the time of day or validation in the European media other that in reference to the US provincialism. It was what I expected from brain-dead, incurious, propaganda deluded, believers of a lie. Not one showed the slightest knowledge of history, of their country, of the people of the ME, of Zionism, of the Hate culture that has become Israel. These are truly warped, twisted and heart ugly people with psychotic delusions of persecution, willing to teach their hate to any and all who might cross their paths; a truly pathetic life. They all forget as well the armed resistance put up in the Warsaw ghetto against the greatly superior German overlords, and they deny the Palestinian resistance the same rights; how convenient.

Utter contempt for that breed of animal, hard to reconcile their connection with humanity. Break an unjust law, boycott all things Israeli until that cancer no longer exists.

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