Thank you, Jane! Newsweek watercarrying for Chee-kneeism absolutely puke-worthy.

…but I guess we don’t get to elect a smarter press corps.

Although we could in effect if more people would step up and subscribe/donate more to New Media outlets. If say FDL could staff a few reporters fulltime we wouldn’t have to reply so much on BigMedia propaganda.

Most people don’t seem to realize that they have the power RIGHT NOW to make this a reality, but complacency prevents the necessary action. All we can do is keep trying.

the data and analysis have been available for several years. all the journalist need to do is read robert pape. our response to 911 appears to have been designed to make us less safe.

Jane!
Your patience in dealing with this head in the sand bullshit that facilitated the terrible attacks of 911 and the “Now, I’ve covered my ass” revisionism from the Bush administration is admirable. I couldn’t analyze their drivel without the use of numerous 4 letter unprintable words. Thank you for your insight and instincts.

“Plus c’est la meme chose, plus ça change”

do you watch, listen or read democracy now! every day?

Thanks Jane.

“Lunkhead,” was perfect. LMAO.

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Thanks Jane ,oh sage one!!

Thanks for filtering out the bullshit and telling it straight,my head is dizzy from all the spin that comes out of Bushland !

And, the Bush White House Press office can’t move on fast enough.

The selective memory of Repubs always amazes me, even though it’s incredibly predictable. Why don’t they ever bring up that the same could be said for Bill Clinton’s time? And the Clinton Admin even caught, tried, and convicted those who bombed the WTC first, all while following the rule of law and the Constitution (seemingly).

The USS Cole was a tragedy overseas and Somalia was horrible, but these were very minor failures compared to the Repubs and DLCers Iraq Invasion, with well over 4,000 US troops dead now and approaching a TRILLION dollars spent.

Just accepting their storylines, their “look ma, no attacks!” arguments make no sense since Osama binForgotten is still supposedly out there. How does this constitute a success at making us safer?

Oh, Jane. You and your pesky insistence on the facts matching the bullshitty rhetoric…

No attacks? What then was all that anthrax nonsense about? Was there no anthrax in the mail? Were people not killed? Was government functioning not severely impaired for months because of it?

And they never caught the guy who did that, either.

It’s not so much that Bush is as bad as expected..but that the US Congress hasn’t prosecuted him [edited by moderator].

[Mod note: To help avoid Secret Service scrutiny, please do not suggest anything that can be construed as threatening in any way. Thanks.]

Try to as much as I can. There need to be many more shows like that.

The Theme from the entire last 8 years, boiled down to one Stanzel phrase: “I’m done, I’m going to move on.”

So I gather their pointy-headed point is that unless there is a terrorism event of the magnitude of 9/11 in the U.S. on a September morning, all is well. I am SO tired of these people whose pointer fingers are locked in place and not even in their holsters. BTW, anyone notice the wee article last week that the Taliban is growing ever larger and more bold? I guess that’s OT, per BushWorld. {{{spit}}}

yep

Teh Friedman is running with this bullshit too. “at least he kept us safe..” ? Are you feckin nutz?

I wonder how Newsweek and the rest of the Rocket Scientist Press Corp can explain the success of Clinton’s Anti-Terrorism efforts after WTC attack of 93? You know where he kept the nation safe from another terrorist attack for 8 years. Without torture, waterboarding, Trillion dollar wars. Hmmmmmm…….we had better think on that huh Newsweek?

No more FOREIGN attacks, is what he meant.

Re Crosstimbers, Why should they waste any assets attacking us again? We are so destroyed beyond their wildest imaginings.

OT: Looks like Obama means it when he says he wants people to organize and he’ll listen. The FDR “make me do it” stuff:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..57076.html

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/ap/20…..e00ca.html

Rick Warren has some company at the Inauguration from some pastors who don’t agree with him.

And Obama’s not even Prez yet.

i’m a big fan and try to talk it up as much as possible. always shocked to find progressives (not you) who complain about the M$M but don’t watch (or listen to or read) democracy now!

No attacks (my foot) — The usual selective republican memory coupled with the idea that ONLY AMERICAN lives really count, and those that were lost in war(s)* are “collateral damage”; they “volunteered”; that’s the “way war goes.”

*Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Lebanon, Gaza, (Ossetia?) and, of course, those about which we did nothing including the Darfur, Congo, Liberia, etc. etc. etc.

If it sounds like I’m blaming Bush for “everything” — I can’t think of even one war waged in the last eight years in which he didn’t have a hand, or about which he did anything more than whine.

we had better think on that huh Newsweek?

Oh, I have no doubt they thought and talked about that. They then decided to keep it quiet. Wouldn’t really fit the pro-Repub agenda.

C’est vrai.

And you thought getting “Natural Born Killers” (sounds like Bush,Cheney,et al) was fiction… I nominate Cheney for Mickey. Bush is definitely his beeotch…

Yes, I know what you mean. Just had a conversation the other day with a bonafide Liberal who didn’t know about hardly any of the Liberal blogs, and assumed they were just crazy ranters anyway. She was presently surprised to see how much good stuff is out there.

BTW….

Has Salty McNuts ever revealed where Osama Bin Ladin is hiding & what his plan was to “GET HIM”. If he doesn’t share this info with the President is not he a “TRAITOR”.

So who’s writing LTE’s to Newsweek, even as we speak? Just an idea. Volume tends to move at least one letter into print.

The reason we weren’t attacked is because nobody tried. If they did, this administration would be all over the media touting their success in thwarting the “evil-doers”. An administration that accused Jose Padilla of wanting to set off a dirty bomb, but had to downgrade his charges (to, I don’t know, felony jaywalking?) or soon re-trying the Liberty Six down in Florida after TWO HUNG JURIES (who are just a bunch of black guys trying to get over on some un-hip suckers that don’t look or talk like them), would give anything to stop a real attack. Instead they spin the lack of attacks as a success of their own making.

There has been NO terrorism on US Homeland since 9/11. The Administration has been successful in that regard. They have struck softer targets in India, UK, Spain, etc.

Are we complicit? Suppose for a minute that the rest of the world that hasn’t been exposed to the Bush-Cheney Victory Lap and Bush History Revision 101 literally holds U.S. citizens responsible for torture and war crimes…what prevents any country in the world from detaining and charging Americans with aiding and abetting war criminals. Didn’t Bush say you’re guilty of terrorism if you feed, clothe or assist terrorists in any manner? didn’t we feed, clothe, honor and handsomely pay the world’s leading terrorists

He wouldn’t have any problem mounting a I was just BSn defense
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OT:

Did any in the press corp ask Bush about this part of his legacy:

“President Bush has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades, according to an analysis of key data, and economists across the ideological spectrum increasingly view his two terms as a time of little progress on the nation’s thorniest fiscal challenges”. Link to WAPO

So Bush and Cheney are praising themselves for only falling asleep at the defend-America-against-terrorism switch once in their eight years in office.

I guess with our assistance to Israel we are one still.
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Did you have Jello today?

Well, at least someone asked the question. That in itself is an improvement over the last 8 years. Who was the reporter who asked it?

My guess is that the Washington press corps will suddenly get very ‘professional’ and ‘hard hitting’ now that their BFF Georgie is headin’ west.

So you clearly acknowledge the gross incompetnce and deriliction of duty on 9/11? They kept us safe except for allowing the worst terrorist attack in our country’s history. Right?

My guess is that the Washington press corps

corps corpse
fixed it for you
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I wish the mods wouldn’t ban trolls– they make me feel smart by comparison.

My 41 for you
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Except for the anthrax attacks, as noted by beth meacham above.

Bush deserves no credit for preventing terrorism in the US. None. He was in the process of de-prioritizing terrorism when the worst terrorist attack ever in the US occurred. Heck of a job, Bushie.

Absolutely. Had the misfortune of catching “Face the Schieffer” yesterday, and Bob did exactly that. Really tough on Durbin and Burris, and then has cabana boy John Boner on, where Bob gets all buddy-buddy with Boner and even mocks Durbin.

First of all, why an entire show devoted to Burris/Blago when we’re staring at a Great Depression and about to have the Inauguration of America’s first melanin-enhanced Prez, and second, Scheeper’s double standard in questioning was disgusting. Durbin was as direct as could be yet Scheeper jokes with Boner, of all people(!), claiming Durbin was evasive. He’s on for a half hour, once a week and THIS is what he talks about the entire show?!?! Boner is in the House anyway, and this is a Senate issue.

I watch a Sunday show every few months to remind myself of why I don’t usually watch them.

So, on the basis of “good advice” from Dick Cheney, PEBO is reconsidering implementing his campaign promises, which he and Cheney are now calling “campaign rhetoric.” For instance, he is now adopting a go-slow approach on closing Gitmo and “looking forward” instead of prosecuting torturers, because Gitmo torture might, as Cheney claims, be the only thing has stood between us and a mushroom cloud for the past seven years.

Swell! Just fucking swell!

Okay, I’m laughing, sort of. Started poking around the net, and featured photo on HuffPost fully illustrates my finger-pointing complaint. I must be a genius! *g*

Without specific “where” and “how” intelligence that would have been difficult, as even the 9/11 Commission noted.

So those Anthrax attacks must have been just a figment of everyone’s imagination then?

Ho-kay.

On a semi-related topic — holding people responsible for torture and spying on Americans. I was just reading yesterday’s NYT article about Obama’s disinclination to look into violations of our laws, and his “belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards.” This bugs the hell out of me. I’m going to believe he wants to leave open for these things to be repeated in the future, despite whatever else he’s said so far.

What I’d like, is to see a joke made out of that phrase “look forward as opposed to looking backwards.” Isn’t that what our justice system does? The only instances I can think of when they might be looking forward is when they hand out a harsh punishment in order to serve as a deterrent to anyone else who might consider the same crime. This doesn’t strike me as a time for singing Kumbaya, unless we’re really interested in seeing a repeat of the same atrocities.

What a lame excuse ….Bush failed to protect us. Period. I do not care how hard or difficult it was. He failed. Admit it. He allowed the worst terrorist attack in the history of our country. Quit making excuses and admit that Bush failed.

The 911 Commission noted a lot of things that were hidden from the American public..such as..

In discussing the report of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on 9/11, Senator Bob Graham (D), the committee chairman, says he is “surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the [9/11] terrorists in the United States.… To me that is an extremely significant issue and most of that information is classified, I think overly classified. I believe the American people should know the extent of the challenge that we face in terms of foreign government involvement. I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing—although that was part of it—by a sovereign foreign government and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down.… It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now.” [PBS, 12/11/2002] In March 2003, Newsweek says its sources indicate Graham is speaking about Saudi Arabia, and that leads pointing in this direction have been pursued. Graham also says that the report contains far more miscues than have been publicly revealed. “There’s been a cover-up of this,” he says. [Newsweek, 3/1/2003]

http://www.historycommons.org/…..igninvolve

Nice. Yes, the justice system is all about “looking backwards” isn’t it? Hopefully Barack is trying to calm their nerves before he actually gets some power and brings the hurt on ‘em. One can dream, no?

The other thing is…don’t these people pay any attention to history? If you don’t prosecute them, they come back. So many of the crooks involved in our current Constitutional Crisis were major players in Watergate for instance, where Prez Ford said we should “put this national nightmare behind us.” Certainly hope this “nightmare” isn’t a recurring dream again…

Just realized the journalist who called out the Shrub Admin hypocrisy was from New Media outlet, RawStory.com. That’s what I’m talking about.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0110.html

We must support these new outlets. Any of us who have a magazine/newspaper subscription or cable/dish, could easily give up one and support two New Media outlets with that cash, and probably even save money. This has to happen on a massive scale. What’s stopping you?

Good catch! I KNEW I’d seen that somewhere but couldn’t remember where.

I’m adding it to the post.

More people in the US will die of influenza *THIS MONTH* than have been killed in terrorist attacks within the US in *MY LIFETIME* (~31.5 yrs). If we spend 1% of the money we’ve wasted on fighting terrorism on fighting the flu (say, through a universal vaccination campaign), we’d save far more lives at far less cost.

I don’t think too many of these “journalists” read very much.

Ever see the often played video of the terrorists training somewhere, maybe Afghanistan, climbing along a horizontal ladder. It’s hilarious. real scary stuff boys and girls.

Watch “The Power of Nightmares”

They think “if the president does it, it’s legal”

They also think “If the president didn’t do it, it wasn’t necessary”

In two hundred years, there was never, ever an attack the equal of 9-11, and who was on watch when that came down? Now, how is it some incompetent can claim only one disaster a shift proves his mettle? The captain of the Titanic, had he survived, could make a similar claim. “Cunnard never again lost a ship of that size in those waters.” Hoping no one remember that, before he blundered onto the ice, none ever had before.

new post way upstairs…

The evidence behind the anthrax attack does not yet connect Al Qaeda to those events…at any rate even if they did, measures have beens secured. Let us not forget that the first World Trade Center attack under Clinton was only partially punished and the attack on the USS Cole was never answered.

Aerosol Weaponizing anthrax in a cave in Afghanistan? I can see them doing the anthrax and mailing it to the people resisting the Bush Administration attempts to separate United States citizens from their money and their rights. After all, 19 arabs with boxcutters foiled the entire United States civilian air defense and military defense system, right?

I did not state that the Anthrax attack was by al-Qaeda. I was just pointing out that it was a terrorist attack.

At least with Clinton, he actually took the time to find and punish most of those responsible for the first WTC attack and did so using police methods. Meaning he was able to do so without involving US troops in two ground wars in Asia.

And the Cole bombing occurred 3 months before Clinton left office, so any failure to “punish” the perpetrators of that seems to fall on the administration that followed doncha think? Or was Clinton such a powerful person with abilities far beyond the norm where he would know immediately upon hearing of a crime, who the perp was?

I believe I posted to this presentation #58-the presentations come so quickly it is easy to forget which one. My comment now seems to be missing. It was not obscene, it was on topic-or so I thought-and it did not suggest violence. Where did I go wrong?

My bad. I looked in the wrong place. I guess I had a senior moment.