Comments on: Obama to Close Gitmo — Where To Put the “High Value” Detainees? http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:26:42 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: albertchampion http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790951 albertchampion Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:52:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790951 <p>oh, because of past hamsher erasures, you can find this at washingtonmonthly.com.</p> <p>also at pilotsfor911truth.com. in the lobby. under torture.</p> oh, because of past hamsher erasures, you can find this at washingtonmonthly.com.

also at pilotsfor911truth.com. in the lobby. under torture.

]]> By: albertchampion http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790920 albertchampion Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:16:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790920 <p>closing guantanamo, part 1.</p> <p>comment 5.</p> <p>protest the hamsher censorship.</p> closing guantanamo, part 1.

comment 5.

protest the hamsher censorship.

]]> By: Nanz http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790824 Nanz Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:23:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790824 <p>/s</p> /s

]]> By: Nanz http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790823 Nanz Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:22:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790823 <p>The best place for these detainees would be, equally divided, in George Bush’s and Dick Cheney’s basements. Believe both are building splendid mansions, and, using the spoils of their 8 year rape of the country’s coffers would have plenty to host these persons they were most anxious to invite over to our country’s special territory for some water(boarding) and eats– even insisting upon tube-feeding the eats upon occasion to assure the detainees would be around when they left office, which, as it happens is now– so, yes, let them take up the slack until permanent homes for their guests can be found. Georgie and Dickie won’t have much to do now anyway will they? They have the secret service to help, local protective agencies will be on hand to assure the guests’ safety etc. Perhaps a perfect solution to this knotty problem.</p> The best place for these detainees would be, equally divided, in George Bush’s and Dick Cheney’s basements. Believe both are building splendid mansions, and, using the spoils of their 8 year rape of the country’s coffers would have plenty to host these persons they were most anxious to invite over to our country’s special territory for some water(boarding) and eats– even insisting upon tube-feeding the eats upon occasion to assure the detainees would be around when they left office, which, as it happens is now– so, yes, let them take up the slack until permanent homes for their guests can be found. Georgie and Dickie won’t have much to do now anyway will they? They have the secret service to help, local protective agencies will be on hand to assure the guests’ safety etc. Perhaps a perfect solution to this knotty problem.

]]> By: yellowdog jim http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790814 yellowdog jim Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:31:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790814 <p>Give them each $20,000, a fresh set of clothes and passage to the destination of their choice.</p> <p>If they really are “high value”, their subsequent activities will give us much more information than torturing them ever could.</p> Give them each $20,000, a fresh set of clothes and passage to the destination of their choice.

If they really are “high value”, their subsequent activities will give us much more information than torturing them ever could.

]]> By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D. http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790765 Kirk James Murphy, M.D. Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:39:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790765 <p>Hi Norske. Good to see you. Happy New Year!</p> Hi Norske. Good to see you. Happy New Year!

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790734 MarkH Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:16:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790734 <blockquote> <p>They should each have a habeus corpus hearing and the US should present the reasons in a criminal court why they need to be held and what the charges are.</p> <p>If the judge determines that there is reasonable cause bail should be set and a date for trial.</p> <p>If no basis for charges are presented they should be released from custody. The court should then set a hearing to determine the damages for unlawful imprisonment.</p> <p>At that hearing all those who have participated in the capture and treatment shall be held criminally and civily responsible. If it is determined that there was unlawful action by the US or their agents, reparations and damages shall be paid. </p></blockquote> <p>ditto</p>

They should each have a habeus corpus hearing and the US should present the reasons in a criminal court why they need to be held and what the charges are.

If the judge determines that there is reasonable cause bail should be set and a date for trial.

If no basis for charges are presented they should be released from custody. The court should then set a hearing to determine the damages for unlawful imprisonment.

At that hearing all those who have participated in the capture and treatment shall be held criminally and civily responsible. If it is determined that there was unlawful action by the US or their agents, reparations and damages shall be paid.

ditto

]]> By: demi http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790693 demi Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:43:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790693 <p>PPS<br /> Just lettin’ ya know the Raven was asking about you today. Hopin’ yur ticker’s doing good.</p> PPS
Just lettin’ ya know the Raven was asking about you today. Hopin’ yur ticker’s doing good.

]]> By: pluege http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790677 pluege Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:32:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790677 <p><em>Obama to Close Gitmo — Where To Put the “High Value” Detainees?</em></p> <p>Crawford, Tx.</p> Obama to Close Gitmo — Where To Put the “High Value” Detainees?

Crawford, Tx.

]]> By: john in sacramento http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790676 john in sacramento Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:30:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/12/obama-to-close-gitmo-where-would-you-put-the-high-value-detainees/#comment-1790676 <p>In order to answer this, we need more info from BO</p> <p>How many do you (Obama) plan on taking to trial?</p> <p>High value detainees only? Or all? Where to send the ones who are released? Found innocent? What mental / medical help are they entitled to? Can they sue for unlawful detention? </p> <p>Second, those going to trial should get Habeas hearings within … what’s reasonable?</p> <p>Will they be tried in military tribunals or civilian courts? </p> <p>If military tribunals, will they all be separate trials or joint trials? And how many in joint trials?</p> <p>What are the rules of evidence? What about appeals? To Whom?</p> <p>I would think that there can’t be too many high value detainees, so Leavenworth? And / or ???</p> <p>If tried in civilian courts all the rules are in place and there are two centuries worth of judicial precedent. And high value targets can and have been tried, even as recently as 2000</p> <p>PDF warning - <a href="http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/pdfs/binladen/indict.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/repor.....indict.pdf</a></p> <p>And you can use the detention centers already built by halliburton</p> <p><a href="http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/14-homeland-security-contracts-kbr-to-build-detention-centers-in-the-us/" rel="nofollow">http://www.projectcensored.org.....in-the-us/</a></p> <p>How many are in Gitmo now? 500? There can’t be more than 20 or 30 who are high value, even if there are 50 or 60 there’s still plenty of room for either choice</p> <p>Just off the top of my head, but your mileage may vary</p> In order to answer this, we need more info from BO

How many do you (Obama) plan on taking to trial?

High value detainees only? Or all? Where to send the ones who are released? Found innocent? What mental / medical help are they entitled to? Can they sue for unlawful detention?

Second, those going to trial should get Habeas hearings within … what’s reasonable?

Will they be tried in military tribunals or civilian courts?

If military tribunals, will they all be separate trials or joint trials? And how many in joint trials?

What are the rules of evidence? What about appeals? To Whom?

I would think that there can’t be too many high value detainees, so Leavenworth? And / or ???

If tried in civilian courts all the rules are in place and there are two centuries worth of judicial precedent. And high value targets can and have been tried, even as recently as 2000

PDF warning – http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/repor…..indict.pdf

And you can use the detention centers already built by halliburton

http://www.projectcensored.org…..in-the-us/

How many are in Gitmo now? 500? There can’t be more than 20 or 30 who are high value, even if there are 50 or 60 there’s still plenty of room for either choice

Just off the top of my head, but your mileage may vary

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