I realize I’m feeding the troll, but it’s not often you see stupid on quite this magnificent a scale. "Joe" "The Plumber", while accusing a small gaggle of media of anti-Israel bias, ran into an actual journalist — and promptly own-goaled himself (requires registration):
JOE: The story here is people are being killed and the media’s slanting it and trying to make it Hamas is, uh, as far as, that Israel’s being bad. Do you believe Israel is bad?
REPORTER: Do I believe it?
JOE: Yeah, do you?!
REPORTER: I’m Israeli, so…
JOE: So answer the question!
REPORTER: No, I don’t think Israel is bad.
JOE: Do you think Israel has every right to protect itself?
REPORTER: Yeah.
[pause]
JOE: You do?!
REPORTER: Yeah.
JOE: Have you said that on air?
REPORTER: I’m just a reporter.
Busted! Joe really showed that fancy-pants guy from Reuters, didn’t he? No wonder the establishment media’s scared. I mean, how dare this so-called "journalist" not clearly state his personal thoughts and beliefs on the air. Isn’t that his job?
JOE: They’re supposed to bring the news to you unbiased. They’re supposed to actually report it and then let you make your opinion.
ROGER L. SIMON: What do you think you can provide that a seasoned journalist can’t?
JOE: What I can provide are actual real questions and get real answers. I’m not talking manufactured answers, I’m not talking soundbites…And uh, not giving it any kind of slants. That’s how news is supposed to be reported. Somewhere along the line they forgot that. As opposed to a commentary from them.
It burns.
UPDATE
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I would love to head slap that guy. Doh!
Can you say media circus? The media are nothing but propaganda and infotainment. Joe just melds the two together.
I would like him to cover the republican house minority without bias. bwahahahaa!
thanks for the laugh BT
I’m withering under Condi’s Continued Cockiness and Condescension with the Andrea the Android.
Effective targeting may require microscopy…
We should always remember the dude is not even a licensed plumber. Though he is a hack for Snakes in the Drain!
I beg to differ, Dear Doctor. The McCain Campaign Legacy has increased this guy’s hat size considerably. Like a rising bread dough.
Joe’s IQ must be about 3 below plant life. I was worried about his gettin’ shot in Gaza. He keeps this crap up he’s liable to get shot in Israel.
Repug Rooter, that’s the name…and away go savings down the drain.
LOL
From the link:
“The mainstream media are dying. The left-wing journalists who used to control the narrative are being laid off in droves — and finding that their “skills” are worthless in finding an honest job.
They look at Joe the Plumber and they see the future of news. Of course they are terrified.”
That comment from Evil Pundit is actually closer to the mark than s/he realizes. If this is the future of news then, yes, I am terrified.
Speaking of MSM, informed rumor has it that the Minneapolis StarTribune will file bankruptcy in the next few weeks. There’s a surprise. /s
It’s so funny. It’s like mocking is the same as fear. It’s what they say about Palin — we make fun of her, so we must fear her.
Magical thinking, to say the least.
Marcy et al won’t have it to kick around any more.
Shooting this clown in the head would not harm him. I think he has bulletproof steel between his ears. If he wears a flack jacket he is invincible.
190 hrs & 11 min
[Mod Note: we wouldn’t want to advocate violence toward another human being, right?]
Magical thinking mama grizzly bear – ya gotta admit it’s a little scary.
Don’t want to register for PJTV? Use BugMeNot!
Too funny!
Joe duh Plumberbutt is right outta the movie “Wag the Dog.” Was he ever in the military? Did we ever find out how connected he was to his uncle that was Charles Keating’s right-hand man (same last name from same area)? Is he literally a creation of the PR machine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v4ZLwevXAI
1:29 in…DeNiro says, “Like being a plumber.”
Funny thing…I first saw the unedited clip of him talking to Obama before the BigMedia creation started, and started sending a link to it to friends saying, “See how Obama wins this guy over. This is how we’re gonna shift the pendulum back to truth and justice.” You rarely see a politician spend so much time with someone and actually listen so intently while giving really reasoned answers. I thought Obama had won him over, or at least made him think.
I think it was the next day or maybe even same day, and Samuel went on Pox Newz and it was like Obama never said a word. Plumberbutt just kept repeating the same talking points that Obama clearly addressed. Made no sense whatsoever, and I started thinking this guy is part of some game. Then, McInsane takes it to insane levels at the debate and then I knew for sure. He’s a version of “Old Shoe.” Maybe he should go to Iraq and get tossed.
Oh, so that’s why when ya shine a flashlight in one ear the light comes out the other.
The Strib is the paper that used to lean liberal, got all scaredy (likely owing to pressure from big bidness advertisers), slid right, brought on a conservative harpy columnist, got hammered for that, reinvented itself several times (your happy way to start the day; serious journalists need not apply), shot itself in the foot multiple times (it’s a centipede) and now tilts toward the journalism graveyard, wondering why. Think we should clue ‘em in? (more /s)
esp. since I Fristed her video footage and am convinced she has a personality disorder. The Britney Spears of national US politics. I tell you she IS her own reality show.
I saw those two clips. You’re right, in the second one you’d never have known he had had that discussion with Obama. Just like a computer bot, it only does what its been programmed to do, no code changes allowed.
Oh, that’s rather sad. Newspapers hold a special place in my heart, good bad or otherwise. It’s a very difficult business and such a necessary part of democracy. I guess it’s being reinvented on the net, which is good. But still, knowing your facts, ability to write well, and make a living at it is pretty tough. Call me a romantic of the first order.
I like to see one written paragraph with a hard hitting lede from Joe the Faux (Fill in Occupation)
Nice new verb. Thanks.
It is sad. For a while, the Strib was part of McClatchy, and it was a really good paper. Since then, non-journalism orgs have owned it and treated it like a rag.
Joe the Pinhead gets a new stamp in his passport. Hurray. Uh, and I wonder when the harsh light of reality will shine on Joe (Samuel) and clue him in about his “biases”. All is not lost, when he finishes being a make-believe journalist he can do grocery store appearances as Mr. Clean.
Perhaps Colbert or Stewart could hire him. I doubt he has enough self-awareness to get that the joke is him.
In the spirit of The Who’s immortal line “Let’s forget you, better still,” may I propose a boycott of Joe the Plumber’s reportage-free reportage? Who’s airing his shite anyway?
Ick. Balance sheet owners who only see $$$ and not the business make me ill. They have no ability to create, just take.
I’ve worked in various types of publishing businesses and unless you “grew up” in it, people just don’t get that you get rich slow.
The owner of the Seattle paper told his employees the other day that he was selling the paper and that if it didn’t sell in 60 days that it would shut down. Don’t think anyone in their right mind would buy a paper right now.
*curtsy*
lol. not sure if it’s grammatically correct. have seen “did a Frist” elsewhere. :]
Hi Twain. which seattle paper? the times? or post-intelligencer?
This is just the wall st mentality at work. Don’t you think this has happened to all of america under their superior weltanschaang.
189 hrs and 48 min
What effect is the mass shut-down of daily newspapers having in terms of rate of consumption of newsprint – paper pulp – logging – commercial forestry?
Pajamas ‘Media’
The Post- can’t imagine it.
What a great word!
Who here thinks he had a passport before “duh Plumber” rollout began? I don’t, and I bet they got one processed extra quick for him so he could do this trip.
this is hysterical!
Notjoe the not plumber should get out of journalism, and go into writing. SNL could use a guy like that!
for realz!
s
Did I misspell it?
189 hrs & 40 min
Looking at Pajamas Media site right now.
Yes, weltanschaaung, but it’s still a great word!
With clowns like Joe the Plumber running around, how can the Onion stay in business?
Take a look at Pajamas Media. Odd place.
[Mod Note: Let’s not give them undeserved traffic. Thanks]
Why?
No, no, no, not to #1. To mod. Why?
I respectfully disagree. How do we know what we’re up against if we don’t look at it? You have the whip hand here, so I will not press against this. Just surprised.
I’m not positive what the mod situation is but IIRC there have been times when PJ media has been linked to from FDL (I know some right wing site has done this and think it is PJ) and they didn’t like the idea and re-directed the links.
It’s not a problem if you want to visit them and stay in touch with their noise but I do hope you have plenty of disinfectant handy for afterwards. :})
Yup, icky place. I will behave. I will behave. I will behave.
I was just thinking that what the situation in the Middle East needs is an American whose knowledge of the area is a half-hour a day of Fox News coming in and telling everyone what to do.
Palin/Plumberbutt 2012!
The Dream Ticket. Two complete fabrications.
That’s just wrong.
Don’t make me use the P word.
I didn’t meant You. I’m questioning the Mod.
Is he really auditioning for the tour starter job at Chimpy’s liberry?? OR, is it the same job but at the new scum pond??
My experience tells me Barb is not stupid, and would already know when to keep the bleach around.
Actually, from a German speaker, the word is Weltanschauung or world outlook (ideology). Sorry for being picky, but it would for people to start using this instead of paradigm or perspective.
Carry on!
Yes..icky..but I will remind everyone that they have major influence. If you want to know what they are up to, you have to read the site. Does it not strike people as odd that they can get Joe to Israel with all of the permissions necessary in such a short space of time? Reporters, real reporters, are being kept 15 miles from the border. This screams government involvement from the Republican side of the White House. The pro Israel propaganda is spewing out of his mouth and that is what he was sent there to do.
Traffic to their site means nothing. What they are doing to organize to revitalize the Republicans means everything. They pushed Palin in 2007..need I remind anyone how popular she was in 2008? PJ’s is not a joke if you wish to defeat Republicans. Ignore them at your political peril. They are organizing big time to revive the Republican party.
If you doubt their power, ask yourself who at FDL could get permission for anyone to be approved and accepted into Israel as a reporter.
I object to censorship in regards to websites. That should not occur on a progressive website.
What censorship? It looks like FDL just asks folks to be careful of who they link to.
I see two comments above with links to Pajamas Media, one with a note asking folks to be careful. As far as I know FDL has never pulled the trick of re-directing someone who has linked to them and, though it may not have been done by PJ Media, I’m fairly certain that at least some of the right wing sites have done that to links coming to them from places like FDL.
And I have no doubt that Sammy Joe got some special help for his visa and such. Just like Guckert/Gannon got his special help. Its how they operate. I don’t have to view their gibberish to know this. I’m just thankful for self-sacrificing folks like BT (and barbara) who are willing to give of themselves and go over to visit the places like PJ Media (or Malkin or NRO or …)
Joe the plumber has outdone the high mistress of political kitch, Sarah Palin. While she, in her famous Cohen Bros. Fargo turkey massacre was just an unwitting metaphor, Joe goes all the way and performs his republican theater of the absurd with a human slaughter going on in the background.
I can’t stand Joe’s kind of rhetoric: “does Israel have a right to protect itself?” Well of course Joe, but protecting oneself doesn’t include wholesale bombing of civilian populations.
does the american humiliation ever end?
rome is almost done burning.
Great insight. Hadn’t looked at it that way.
Yes, like some more straw, Joe?
logic from joe the nadaplumber
thick as a fucking brick
I seem to recall that Roger Simon was often on CBS (I think) during the 80’s and 90’s and was captured by Iraqi soldiers during the first Gulf War.
He’d probably know a few things about real journalism and how the hell did he end up alongside Joe?
note the grinning little monkey in the pic behind joe(sam).
Oops!
I guess that was Bob Simon I was thinking about.
I shoulda googled before I posted.
Wow, he actually trolls people in person. I was wondering what a real-life troll would be like. I guess I shoulda known.
Unlike many of my friends on this site, I APPRECIATE JTP. I think he’s doing a very useful service, repeating the same crappy, authoritarian talking points that are the standard-issue discourse in american media and political life:
“Israel” is right – this includes the religious crazies
Arabs are bad and have no legitimate grievances
any level of violence used by Israel is OK buy us
the media should not cover what is going on.
When JTP says this stuff, he’s reciting the same talking points that the rest of them do – it’s just a little clearer what’s really going on.