Comments on: Sunday Talking Heads: January 11, 2009

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:44:04 +0000

Most likely. LOL

By: Elliott

Elliott — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:25:59 +0000

NYT’s Sanger Sure Gets It Wrong - US Did Sell Israel Bombs for Iran Attack
upstairs

By: selise

selise — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:25:21 +0000

but cole didn’t say protests are not enough - you did (and i agree with you). cole said they are useless and don’t matter - and i don’t agree with that (seems like you don’t either?).

On the Uselessness of Street Protest;
And the Usefulness of Web 2.0 Lobbying
This kind of headline about large street protests against the Israeli attack on Gaza annoys me no end.

The mechanisms are well known whereby the Israeli Right* is able to engage in this cavalier disregard for civilian life (and, some are saying possible occasional targeting of civilians.

I’m sorry, but it just doesn’t matter if tens of thousands of people demonstrate in Paris. Oh,it might put a little pressure on Sarkozy to remonstrate a little harder with the Israeli government, but in the larger scheme of things it isn’t very significant.

my bolds.

By: klynn

klynn — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:21:05 +0000

Look,I been thrown in jail for protesting Apartheid in Geneva. I do Take Back The Night Marches (even lead them)…etc…

I think the point Cole is making is addressing the flow of power and the fact that we can be empowered to hold a lobbying voice for peace against a minority voice which has a great deal of power globally and terribly influences politics at the grassroots level with money.

His point about the protests is more along the lines that protests are not enough. On that point, he is spot on.

Now protests matched with a powerful peace lobbying power…That would mean change in US policies.

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:45:47 +0000

Joe the Plumber’s sidekick.

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:40:45 +0000

Speaking of snow and ice, a Mainer got an OUI (operating under the influence) on a Zamboni recently:

http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/037707.html

Hysterical.

By: JohnForde

JohnForde — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:38:58 +0000

Obama just answered Stephanopolous’s question about appointing a special prosecutor to investigate torture.

I have been hoping Obama would finesse his answer so as to not signal to the bushies that they are in trouble, it would lead them to destroy more evidence.

But Obama’ answer was great. 1. If a person clearly committed a crime they should be prosecuted. 2. No one is above the law.

This is bad news for Bushco and GREAT NEWS FOR AMERICA!

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:35:55 +0000

edit - have been more than worth it

Preview is mah fren

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:35:05 +0000

I agree and is one of the reasons that I keep doing it. If I can get just 1 person to think about what’s going on rather than blindly follow some ideology then those hours have more than worth it.

Folks may get tired of my sayin’ it, but Cesar Chavez put the United Farm Workers together “one person at a time.” It’s also true of many other progressive organizations.

MoveOn ain’t one of ‘em. *g*

By: selise

selise — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:20:32 +0000

at the very first protest, actually a silent vigil, i ever went to (in 2002 after the israeli atrocities in jenin refugee camp) i happened to stand next to a palestinian american woman who had a sister in ramallah. she told me with tears in her eyes how much it meant to her to have anglo looking people standing with her and that as soon as she could talk with her sister (phone access had been unavailable for days) she would tell her about the vigil - how it was called for by a christian (catholic worker) and how it was attended by caring people in the community.

if no one in congress ever even heard about another protest, i’d still think they are of critical importance.