David Sanger has been a very busy chief Washington correspondent. His report on the “sheer scariness” of the insecurity of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal appears today in the New York Times Magazine, but he also had a major article in the paper yesterday. The Saturday article, "U.S. Rejected Aid for Israeli Raid on Iranian Nuclear Site," discusses the Israeli desire for a U.S. attack on Iran to which Bush said no – but also claims that Bush turned down the Israeli request for key assistance for an Israeli launched operation.
In place of a direct attack by either country, Sanger reports that Bush "told the Israelis that he had authorized new covert action intended to sabotage Iran’s suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, according to senior American and foreign officials."
We seem to be back in “sheer scariness” territory again but there’s a problem with Sanger’s report. He gets a central fact wrong in his very first sentence which reads:
President Bush deflected a secret request by Israel last year for specialized bunker-busting bombs it wanted for an attack on Iran’s main nuclear complex …
He later repeats the claim saying that:
The United States did give Israel one item on its shopping list: high-powered radar, called the X-Band, to detect any Iranian missile launchings. It was the only element in the Israeli request that could be used solely for defense, not offense.
Yet, as we discussed back in September, the U.S. actually did approve the sale of 1,000 GBU-39, those “specialized bunker-busting bombs.” As we noted then, Ha’aretz reported the sale on September 14th:
Haaretz, 9/14/08:
Despite reservations in Washington regarding a possible Israeli strike on Iran, the American administration will supply Israel with sophisticated weapons for heavily fortified targets, the U.S. administration announced…
The Pentagon's announcement, which came on Friday, said the U.S. will provide Israel with 1,000 units of Guided Bomb Unit-39 (GBU-39) - a special weapon developed for penetrating fortified facilities located deep underground.
The $77 million shipment, which includes launchers and appurtenances, will allow the IAF to hit many more bunkers than currently possible. Although each bomb weighs 113 kilograms, its penetration capabilities equal those of a one ton bomb, according to professional literature.
And the Jerusalem Post has reported that Israel is now using those GBU-39 “bunker busters” in Gaza
Reuters is now reporting that the U.S. in a “rare” move has commissioned a merchant vessel to transport “hundreds of tons of arms to Israel” and:
stipulated a ship to be chartered for 42 days capable of carrying 989 standard 20-foot containers from Sunny Point, North Carolina to Ashdod.
The tender document said the vessel had to be capable of "carrying 5.8 million pounds (2.6 million kg) of net explosive weight," which specialist brokers said was a very large quantity.
The Reuters report notes that this is a very unusual amount of arms for one shipment and goes on to speculate that the shipment is in fact GBU-39s.
Such a shipment could either be the delivery of the balance of those 1,000 bombs – or replacements for those already used in Gaza.
Either way Mr. Sanger’s claim that Bush “deflected” Israel’s request for the weapons needed to attack Iran is wrong.
And while Israel seems unlikely to undertake an attack on Iran while in the midst of their war on Gaza, given their rhetoric on Iran it would not be surprising to learn that they are stocking up – with Bush’s permission - on the weapons needed for an Iranian attack before Obama comes into office.
Israel has already demonstrated their ability to fly and refuel in air as needed for an attack on Iran – in fact, Sanger describes that exercise in his article:
Last June, the Israelis conducted an exercise over the Mediterranean Sea that appeared to be a dry run for an attack on the enrichment plant at Natanz. When the exercise was analyzed at the Pentagon, officials concluded that the distances flown almost exactly equaled the distance between Israel and the Iranian nuclear site.
This means that Israel no longer requires direct U.S. support during such an attack – support which Sanger reports was Israel’s second request to Bush. This leaves only the third request -permission to fly over Iraqi air space. On this Sanger does ask the right question:
White House officials discussed the possibility that the Israelis would fly over Iraq without American permission. In that case, would the American military be ordered to shoot them down?
While Sanger’s account of the cloak and dagger efforts Bush apparently approved (not quite secret given Sy Hersh’s earlier reporting of just such efforts) is interesting, his apparent desire to portray Bush as opposing an Iranian attack on Iran and his critical mistake on the question of the bunker-busters may well have led him to miss the real story.
Photo of GBU-39s - US Air Force
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Al Jazeera reports that Israeli troops in Golan Heights reportedly fired upon from Syria.
-G
Haaretz reports it is likely Palestinian militants, not the Syrian military.
-G
There is significant concern that Israel is using phosphorous in attacks.
http://english.aljazeera.net/n.....84765.html
217 & 5 min
Syria wants no part of Israel. Israel made it clear last year and earlier this year that they know exactly where Assad is almost all the time. That’s the sort of personal threat that works on Syria. You’ll hear words only.
In return, Israel has NOT attempted to take out Maashal in Damascus.
Available data suggest that Hamas is BADLY hurt and Israel is nearly untouched.
I find it odd that Bush shot down Israels request to hit Iran. Can’t think why Bushco would do that, especially since they have nothing to lose. Industrial sabatoge will only take you so far, it’s a delaying tactic at best.
Boxturtle (PA says they don’t want to be in charge of Rafah. Yeah, right)
I am not sure why Pennsylvania would want to be in charge of Rafah *g*
216 hrs & 53 min
Tom Ridge has recommended wrapping it in plastic and duct taping it all up.
-G
Just like running Philly, but the Palistinians aren’t as violent or as heavily armed. :-)
Boxturtle (Though Tax collecting could be an issue)
What a fuckin’ moron Ridge is.
Digg it.
The Palestinians are being killed by American planes and American bombs!
it’s been said often that if the president wants an attack in the middle east he would have Israel do it before he leaves office by giving them a green light
and here we are now, Obama sure has his work cut out for him, THREE unnecessary wars, a GREAT depression that is rivaled by only one in our history a divided country and an ideology that tells him he is supposed to “work together” with the maggots that did this to us
One of those great NCO’s we were talking about!
The Israeli’s like don’t already have enough of an advantage?
They use stuff like this ?
Are these bombs made in America too !!
Sounds like Bush has set the stage for Israel to attack Iran after Obama takes office. It will make Bush Sr.’s gift of Somalia to the Clinton administration look puny by comparison.
Sanger has been one of the reporters who keeps denying the findings of the NIE - a friend compares him regularly to Judy Judy Judy.
Much of the talk about invading Iran seems to perceive of Iran as being defenseless. This is far from true.
216 hrs & 24 min
That sounds distressingly probable.
Israel manufactures some of their own small arms but they get nearly all their advanced weaponry from the U.S.. A large portion of the “aid” we provide is in the form of armaments. It’s the arms merchant’s equivalent of farm subsidies… and we do the same thing all over the world.
Does the question then become, “Would the Israelis, after Obama took office, be certain that the U.S. would prevent Iran from reaching out and touching Israel in return? Or would they no longer be so sure that the schoolyard cop would step in on their side?”
Here is another bunker-buster, not the GBU-35 and more advanced.
Interesting question.
Whether or not Obama approves of Israel’s actions, if they attacked Iran the U.S. would be obligated to intervene to prevent or at least blunt any retaliation against Israel.
imo, that is why all this is being done now. just like the shrub has backed us into a no win corner re irag/afg. after 012009 there is no free lunch.
I really do not know and couldn’t find sourcing info. These lethal and dangerous types of weapons should not be used especially in populated areas. Like the cluster bombs makers and users of these weapons should be prosecuted as war criminals.
216 hrs & 17 min
Not the GBU-39 either…
Siun has forgotten to say that Sanger inserted in his article a source claiming that there may be 10 to 15 facilities which have never been inspected and which the NIE passed over.
FROM “WAR IN CONTEXT”:
Editor’s Comment — This report raises a host of questions but perhaps the most pressing one is this: Have the New York Times and its reporter, David Sanger, knowingly or unwittingly made themselves instruments in promoting an agenda by the CIA, elements inside the agency, the US government and/or the Israeli government?
To publicize the covert program described in this report would seem to be a way of forcing Obama’s hand as his administration attempts to lay the groundwork for a diplomatic approach to Iran. If George Bush thwarted Israel’s aim of bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities in 2008, is Israel now attempting to undermine any diplomatic initiative in 2009?
SOURCE - http://warincontext.org/2009/0.....with-iran/
No matter how large scale an attack, it sounds as if it would prove futile if the goal is to stop Iran’s enrichment process. It is always difficult to discern what Israel’s objectives are, they don’t discuss them publicly. Might be to simply slow the process or sometimes they do things to establish a precedent, IOW draw a line in the sand. Whatever the motivation, an attack will create more problems than it remedies.
i have struggled with this issue for decades. don’t believe there is a humane way to conduct war on people. it’s a filty business.
It is barbaric and the focus of our attention has been on doing the barbaric more effectively.
216 hrs & 6 min
…….. prosecuted as war criminals. …..
Agreed!
The idea of Israel dragging us into another war in the ME makes me sick. I don’t believe we should get involved at all and should do everything we can to stop it. The question that stays in my mind is why Israel thinks this will be good for them….if it keeps on Israel will be destroyed by the sheer number of Arabs who will band together eventually.
War is evil unleashed there is no way to justify it!!!
People who can’t read relief maps, or satellite photos (Iran is corrugated). Maybe they think the middle east is alll flatlands.
Trying to invade Iran would leave us with a lot smaller military, because we’d lose a lot of those sent in there, and their equipment too.
It isn’t certain that they intend to attack Iran. I believe Obama would discourage them but as I mentioned, we don’t know what their actual objectives are. Ultimately, Israel will do what it’s leaders think are in it’s interest, even if doing so defies the wishes of their chief patron.
World opinion is solidifying hard against Israel. They are becoming a rogue state in the worlds eyes.
It is a very dangerous path they have undertaken.
Condi Rice must have done her midwifing residency with Dr. Kevorkian.
-G
THere are multiple “bunker busters” but the GBU39 is the one folks are focused on since it has the “busting” power of a much larger bomb but you can load more on one fighter jet at a time -decreasing the number of jets you need to send to hit mulitple targets.
Marcy is upstairs with a terrific piece of political/social/economic stuff … from SPORTS ILLUSTRATED!!!!
yes, took me a long time ta figure that out. i’m a slow learner. guess i am a pacifist now.
Thank you Dickerson - this is a very helpful link.
That covers our predicament…The political strategy has been move the goal post so no points can be scored.
Defining where the goal post was may clarify the status quo.
It has been that way for a long time. As long as Israel retains it’s U.S. patronage it doesn’t care what the rest of the world thinks.
as long as it happens in the next 9 days that is not an issue. unlimited money and troops. this israel incursion is designed to bring iran in now, imo.
sad but true.
Isreal would perform a false flag operation and PR it like gaza…we had to do it for our defense.
Bush established the “Preemptive Strike” in Iraq. More of the same old neocon shit just a different day.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenew.....736369.htm
LONDON, Jan 9 (Reuters) - The U.S. is seeking to hire a merchant ship to deliver hundreds of tonnes of arms to Israel from Greece later this month, tender documents seen by Reuters show.
The U.S. Navy’s Military Sealift Command (MSC) said the ship was to carry 325 standard 20-foot containers of what is listed as “ammunition” on two separate journeys from the Greek port of Astakos to the Israeli port of Ashdod in mid-to-late January.
Yes - that’s the ship I mentioned in the post which looks like it is being hired for delivery of more GBU39s.
does iran have a navy? i know they have these small pt type boats.
“The idea of Israel dragging us into another war in the ME makes me sick.”
Isreal has manuevered USA into conflict after conflict. The moral cost…the high ground, the financial cost…a global depression.
well, no price is too high to bring about the fruits of the bible.
Amen. Hallelujah…Apocalpse now…Resurection of the dead…sending them to the proper place…heaven for eternal choral…hell for the damned (sinners…) S)
Bush says torture still necessary
“My view is the techniques were necessary and are necessary,” Bush said.
The president disagreed with notion that such tactics amount to torture.
“I firmly reject the word ‘torture,’” Bush said.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0111.html
Glenn Smith is upstairs with a new post.
Siun,
Thanks for your discussion of the Sanger article. Good work!
Bob in HI
Hopefully, there’s not even a cafeteria!
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Maybe I’m not being inventive enough, but what kind of operation could you mount that would look convincingly enough like an Iranian attack on Israel? A dud ‘Iranian’ missile lands in the Negev? An ‘Iranian’ airliner loaded with fuel flies into some buildings in downtown Israeli-city-of-your-choosing? An ‘Iranian’ ship offloads tanks in the Gaza? Any ideas?
Of course, US arms to Israel is a money laundering scheme : welfare for the Military Industrial complex. Israel using American arms is a feature, not a bug!
The Jews caused all the wars that ever happened. Mel Gibson told me so.
[Moderator: There’s a fine line between snark and saying things that can be sorely misinterpreted.]
i think we should all write to the NYT or post comments to force a correction, otherwise they probably won’t acknowledge the mistake
public@nytimes.com
foreign@nytimes.com
Luckily, Israel is keeping the Arab terrorists occupied…
I’d hate to think what would happen if Israel disappears one day, and all the Muslim eyes will only be turned to us…
“It will be 9/11 times a thousand”