Comments on: PEBO Wants AEI Libertarian Opposed to Product Bans Deciding OMB’s Health and Enviro Rules http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:19:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D. http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1789162 Kirk James Murphy, M.D. Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:05:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1789162 <p>Hey folks - One of our readers (a published author with a political science PhD from U of Chicago) kindly emailed me and pointed out Sunstein is a liberal democrat, rather than a libertarian. I’ve emailed the reader and invited them to expand upon the concept here, but with this being a Sunday they may not even have seen the email.</p> <p>In any event, if folks have additional thought or ideas about whether Sunstein’s actually a libertarian, they are welcome here…… I cheerfully admit that I’m not able to find a universally consensed upon definition of libertarian.</p> Hey folks – One of our readers (a published author with a political science PhD from U of Chicago) kindly emailed me and pointed out Sunstein is a liberal democrat, rather than a libertarian. I’ve emailed the reader and invited them to expand upon the concept here, but with this being a Sunday they may not even have seen the email.

In any event, if folks have additional thought or ideas about whether Sunstein’s actually a libertarian, they are welcome here…… I cheerfully admit that I’m not able to find a universally consensed upon definition of libertarian.

]]> By: Otay http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1789045 Otay Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:34:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1789045 <p>Cass Sunstein is the same putz who says that prosecuting the Bush administration would be oh so partisan and anti-Kumbaya.</p> Cass Sunstein is the same putz who says that prosecuting the Bush administration would be oh so partisan and anti-Kumbaya.

]]> By: mamazboy http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788488 mamazboy Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:57:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788488 <p>Iv’e been checking and there seems to be more than a little anti-Sunstein commentary on various blogs. The consensus I read is that he’ll still get through, but that progressives should be worried. Another bad pick by Obama.</p> Iv’e been checking and there seems to be more than a little anti-Sunstein commentary on various blogs. The consensus I read is that he’ll still get through, but that progressives should be worried. Another bad pick by Obama.

]]> By: mamazboy http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788480 mamazboy Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:24:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788480 <p>He sounds fascist-leaning to me.</p> He sounds fascist-leaning to me.

]]> By: alank http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788472 alank Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:15:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788472 <p>Libertarian paternalism is an oxymoron. With such outstanding credentials, I suppose you earn to right to write and say anything and be beyond reproach.</p> <p>Btw, I wasn’t aware of the collaboration between Brookings and AEI in the recent past. Alas, <a href="http://www.aei-brookings.org/index2.html" rel="nofollow">they had parting of the ways</a>,</p> <blockquote><p> The AEI-Brookings Joint Center is no longer in operation.</p> <p>For AEI-Brookings Joint Center archives and more recent work, please go to <a href="http://www.reg-markets.org" rel="nofollow">www.reg-markets.org</a></p> <p>For AEI work, please go to <a href="http://www.aei.org" rel="nofollow">www.aei.org</a></p> <p>For Brookings work, please go to <a href="http://www.brookings.edu" rel="nofollow">www.brookings.edu</a></p> <p>Thank you for your support over the years.</p> <p>Bob Hahn and Bob Litan </p></blockquote> Libertarian paternalism is an oxymoron. With such outstanding credentials, I suppose you earn to right to write and say anything and be beyond reproach.

Btw, I wasn’t aware of the collaboration between Brookings and AEI in the recent past. Alas, they had parting of the ways,

The AEI-Brookings Joint Center is no longer in operation.

For AEI-Brookings Joint Center archives and more recent work, please go to http://www.reg-markets.org

For AEI work, please go to http://www.aei.org

For Brookings work, please go to http://www.brookings.edu

Thank you for your support over the years.

Bob Hahn and Bob Litan

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788391 Hugh Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:59:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788391 <p>If we had had even a limited precautionary principle at work among regulators both the housing bubble and the financial meltdown could have been avoided. </p> <p>Sunstein is a prime example of failing upwards.</p> If we had had even a limited precautionary principle at work among regulators both the housing bubble and the financial meltdown could have been avoided.

Sunstein is a prime example of failing upwards.

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788389 Hugh Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:55:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788389 <p>Thanks Kirk, I wondered where Sunstein would end up. It seems like our elites have a phobia about filling government positions with really qualified people. I suppose the idea is that if anyone showed up and really did their job well it would make the rest of them look bad. Sunstein is a great candidate that way. He’s the kind of guy who could be incompetent anywhere.</p> Thanks Kirk, I wondered where Sunstein would end up. It seems like our elites have a phobia about filling government positions with really qualified people. I suppose the idea is that if anyone showed up and really did their job well it would make the rest of them look bad. Sunstein is a great candidate that way. He’s the kind of guy who could be incompetent anywhere.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788378 eCAHNomics Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:39:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788378 <p>Oh, and there’s another example from the Chicago school on the other side. Precious.</p> <p>Posner argues in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Catastrophe-Risk-Response-Richard-Posner/dp/0195306473/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231644984&sr=1-22" rel="nofollow">Catastrophe</a>, that in the case of small probability, large consequence events, cost-benefit (i.e. pour all your resources into the catastrophe) analysis rules. Heh. Luv it when those Chicago sorts go off the deep end.</p> Oh, and there’s another example from the Chicago school on the other side. Precious.

Posner argues in Catastrophe, that in the case of small probability, large consequence events, cost-benefit (i.e. pour all your resources into the catastrophe) analysis rules. Heh. Luv it when those Chicago sorts go off the deep end.

]]> By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D. http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788359 Kirk James Murphy, M.D. Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:21:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788359 <p>Yep. His “argument” about genetically modified organisms is something I’d flunk a med student for: all assertions, no data.</p> <p>More broadly, he sets up a strawman “definition” of the precautionary principle, rather than citing de facto examples. THe bogeyman he chooses to create is, of course, not actually reflective of the pp.</p> <p>The idea his shoddy work would get published, much less favorable reviews, illustrates the difference between the academic sciences and academic work in law/ foreign policy. The former relies upon empirical data; the latter upon Imperial favor.</p> Yep. His “argument” about genetically modified organisms is something I’d flunk a med student for: all assertions, no data.

More broadly, he sets up a strawman “definition” of the precautionary principle, rather than citing de facto examples. THe bogeyman he chooses to create is, of course, not actually reflective of the pp.

The idea his shoddy work would get published, much less favorable reviews, illustrates the difference between the academic sciences and academic work in law/ foreign policy. The former relies upon empirical data; the latter upon Imperial favor.

]]> By: ratfood http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788355 ratfood Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:18:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/10/pebo-wants-aei-libertarian-opposed-to-product-bans-deciding-ombs-health-and-enviro-rules/#comment-1788355 <p>Works for me, I’ll file the shorthand version for future reference.</p> Works for me, I’ll file the shorthand version for future reference.

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