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	<title>Comments on: Obama Inspires Confidence, but the Stimulus Plan Doesn&#8217;t</title>
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		<title>By: sad4america</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787942</link>
		<dc:creator>sad4america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They have created jobs, they have tput money back into the economy thru investments. Those investments when successful make them a lot of money but also create jobs which is always good.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the rich make 5% on a $100,000 investment they make $5,000. They scale of their investments are larger so they are looked at having all the benefits but they are playing for the most part by the same rules. Just because making $50 on a $1000 investment doesn’t sound as good or worth it. It is necessary to develop the scale and develop discipline to get there. The “rags to riches” stories that are so prevalent in America isn’t because our journalists work so hard to dig up these hard to find stories, it is because people do it so often. If people continue to cry for government help and say everything is so unfair to them it will never work. People need to not blame others and they must accept that they are the only ones to get them out. Then they can face it and develope are workable solution. Then if outside help does come they will be even better off.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have created jobs, they have tput money back into the economy thru investments. Those investments when successful make them a lot of money but also create jobs which is always good.</p>
<p>If the rich make 5% on a $100,000 investment they make $5,000. They scale of their investments are larger so they are looked at having all the benefits but they are playing for the most part by the same rules. Just because making $50 on a $1000 investment doesn’t sound as good or worth it. It is necessary to develop the scale and develop discipline to get there. The “rags to riches” stories that are so prevalent in America isn’t because our journalists work so hard to dig up these hard to find stories, it is because people do it so often. If people continue to cry for government help and say everything is so unfair to them it will never work. People need to not blame others and they must accept that they are the only ones to get them out. Then they can face it and develope are workable solution. Then if outside help does come they will be even better off.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787337</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The top 50% of wage earners in America pay for 97% of the income taxes, the top 5% around 40%. Why do liberals seem to insist on demonizing the wealthy, those who have used the rules that we all play by, risking thier own money and taking chances to achieve wealth which in turn creates jobs and grows the economy!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because they have kept everyone else from improving their standard of living and their economic security. People produce more and are more efficient, particularly when they can use new computer technologies, and yet their incomes, adjusted for inflation, have been flat for about 30 years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it fair for some to benefit so much and others, who produced the wealth with their own hands, should receive no more than families did 30 years ago?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The top 50% of wage earners in America pay for 97% of the income taxes, the top 5% around 40%. Why do liberals seem to insist on demonizing the wealthy, those who have used the rules that we all play by, risking thier own money and taking chances to achieve wealth which in turn creates jobs and grows the economy!!!</p>
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<p>Because they have kept everyone else from improving their standard of living and their economic security. People produce more and are more efficient, particularly when they can use new computer technologies, and yet their incomes, adjusted for inflation, have been flat for about 30 years.</p>
<p>Is it fair for some to benefit so much and others, who produced the wealth with their own hands, should receive no more than families did 30 years ago?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787300</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The best way to stimulate the economy is to put a $5,000 (or more) check in the hands of those making less than $250,000 for them to spend.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tax holiday?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Government doesn’t have a standing way to just hand out money to individuals — they’ve always given it to businesses (ha!).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s the best way to get it out there?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The best way to stimulate the economy is to put a $5,000 (or more) check in the hands of those making less than $250,000 for them to spend.</p>
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<p>Tax holiday?</p>
<p>Government doesn’t have a standing way to just hand out money to individuals — they’ve always given it to businesses (ha!).</p>
<p>What’s the best way to get it out there?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787296</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;As Joseph Stiglitz has said explicitly, the unregulated and opaque ultra-free capital markets have done a lousy job of allocating capital since the last years of the Clinton administration.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think what happened was that the Goopers helped Wall Street dig this hole to win their favor and to make profits. But, in so doing, they increased money supply far beyond what our real economy was producing. It wasn’t seen as price inflation because it stayed in investments. But, a lot of it was on paper and has now vanished. So, we have a fluffed economy going flat as a souffle, a banking system not loaning money properly, oil price spikes last summer which drained many home bank accounts, wars and a continuing growth in cost of health care and credit card debt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If a lot of that money growth had stayed with individuals, then they could withstand this current problem a lot better. But, of course, there would be price inflation too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, we have two economies in a sense: the financial economy which has gone flat, but with many keeping the profits of the last decade or two; the real economy which has trudged along on zero profit growth and families sinking slowly into the mire.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The financial economy is further along in getting fixed. Price deflation happened, scandals have been revealed and regulation is (and hopefully some prosecutions are) on the way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The real economy is still deflating (along with housing prices) and we need to push money into that area to enable businesses to keep on employees and to simply do business in a normal way and that includes state &amp; local governments which have been hit by decreased tax revenues.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People want to work. Businesses want to make and sell. The cash has to be there like so much gasoline or oil running through the system.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As Joseph Stiglitz has said explicitly, the unregulated and opaque ultra-free capital markets have done a lousy job of allocating capital since the last years of the Clinton administration.</p>
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<p>I think what happened was that the Goopers helped Wall Street dig this hole to win their favor and to make profits. But, in so doing, they increased money supply far beyond what our real economy was producing. It wasn’t seen as price inflation because it stayed in investments. But, a lot of it was on paper and has now vanished. So, we have a fluffed economy going flat as a souffle, a banking system not loaning money properly, oil price spikes last summer which drained many home bank accounts, wars and a continuing growth in cost of health care and credit card debt.</p>
<p>If a lot of that money growth had stayed with individuals, then they could withstand this current problem a lot better. But, of course, there would be price inflation too.</p>
<p>So, we have two economies in a sense: the financial economy which has gone flat, but with many keeping the profits of the last decade or two; the real economy which has trudged along on zero profit growth and families sinking slowly into the mire.</p>
<p>The financial economy is further along in getting fixed. Price deflation happened, scandals have been revealed and regulation is (and hopefully some prosecutions are) on the way.</p>
<p>The real economy is still deflating (along with housing prices) and we need to push money into that area to enable businesses to keep on employees and to simply do business in a normal way and that includes state &amp; local governments which have been hit by decreased tax revenues.</p>
<p>People want to work. Businesses want to make and sell. The cash has to be there like so much gasoline or oil running through the system.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787284</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Extend food stamp eligibility upwards for two years.&lt;br /&gt;
Un-tax Social Security old-age and disability benefits.&lt;br /&gt;
Make immediate grants to states to balance their budgets for two years.&lt;br /&gt;
Broaden and extend unemployment benefits&lt;br /&gt;
Halt foreclosures; forgive all student loans; grant 6-month FICA tax holiday.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These steps aren’t hard, but they are all courageous and non-Republican. They will all put money in the hands of Americans who will spend it tomorrow. And there won’t be GOP votes for it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All those except student loans look like good ideas. And, if BO has an Ed plan which helps students, then the loans might get paid for anyway.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All around it sounds pretty good to me. Those ideas are all worth having and the stimulus is here to make things happen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know the numbers on the “loan states money to balance their budgets”, but I do like the idea — and it’s a new one I hadn’t seen before.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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Extend food stamp eligibility upwards for two years.<br />
Un-tax Social Security old-age and disability benefits.<br />
Make immediate grants to states to balance their budgets for two years.<br />
Broaden and extend unemployment benefits<br />
Halt foreclosures; forgive all student loans; grant 6-month FICA tax holiday.</p>
<p>These steps aren’t hard, but they are all courageous and non-Republican. They will all put money in the hands of Americans who will spend it tomorrow. And there won’t be GOP votes for it. </p>
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<p>All those except student loans look like good ideas. And, if BO has an Ed plan which helps students, then the loans might get paid for anyway.</p>
<p>All around it sounds pretty good to me. Those ideas are all worth having and the stimulus is here to make things happen.</p>
<p>I don’t know the numbers on the “loan states money to balance their budgets”, but I do like the idea — and it’s a new one I hadn’t seen before.</p>
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		<title>By: sad4america</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787253</link>
		<dc:creator>sad4america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The bush tax cuts created millions of jobs. They were apparently not the proper type thou.&lt;br /&gt;
The top 50% of wage earners in America pay for 97% of the income taxes, the top 5% around 40%. Why do liberals seem to insist on demonizing the wealthy, those who have used the rules that we all play by, risking thier own money and taking chances to achieve wealth which in turn creates jobs and grows the economy!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bush tax cuts created millions of jobs. They were apparently not the proper type thou.<br />
The top 50% of wage earners in America pay for 97% of the income taxes, the top 5% around 40%. Why do liberals seem to insist on demonizing the wealthy, those who have used the rules that we all play by, risking thier own money and taking chances to achieve wealth which in turn creates jobs and grows the economy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sad4america</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787245</link>
		<dc:creator>sad4america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t understand how increasing spending on food stamps and unemployment benefits will stimulate the economy and encourage people to find new jobs, or urge business’s to create new jobs. I agree that in this time a certain portion is necessary to get us through but not as the primary objective. People don’t seem to understand The United States has splashed into a global economy that has faster growth and potential in many other countries. Lowering corporate tax might not help immediately but it will encourage companies to come to or stay in America. We have one of the, if not the hardest, especially longest working workforce in the developed world. Government is to encourage business to come to the US and also encourage new entrepreneurs to start new businesses and products. Infrastructure and “investment” in our country is a great idea, it is necessary and would create an immediate jobs. Creating a greater demand for work in the US should be the only goal. Increasing the size of government should not even be considered. Consider the path we seem to be going, the apparent liberal agenda. It is very similar to France and Germany and they are not doing great to say the least. Biggest thing is to teach financial literacy to children from young on. People can do a lot on $30,000 a year if used properly but we as Americans are greedy and do not seem to understand how to handle money. Drilling into children how to handle money and how it works in schools would do a hell of a lot more than learning to play sports or cooking ever will. Not that those are bad at all but our priorities are misconstrued.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t understand how increasing spending on food stamps and unemployment benefits will stimulate the economy and encourage people to find new jobs, or urge business’s to create new jobs. I agree that in this time a certain portion is necessary to get us through but not as the primary objective. People don’t seem to understand The United States has splashed into a global economy that has faster growth and potential in many other countries. Lowering corporate tax might not help immediately but it will encourage companies to come to or stay in America. We have one of the, if not the hardest, especially longest working workforce in the developed world. Government is to encourage business to come to the US and also encourage new entrepreneurs to start new businesses and products. Infrastructure and “investment” in our country is a great idea, it is necessary and would create an immediate jobs. Creating a greater demand for work in the US should be the only goal. Increasing the size of government should not even be considered. Consider the path we seem to be going, the apparent liberal agenda. It is very similar to France and Germany and they are not doing great to say the least. Biggest thing is to teach financial literacy to children from young on. People can do a lot on $30,000 a year if used properly but we as Americans are greedy and do not seem to understand how to handle money. Drilling into children how to handle money and how it works in schools would do a hell of a lot more than learning to play sports or cooking ever will. Not that those are bad at all but our priorities are misconstrued.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787237</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The best way to stimulate the economy is to put a $5,000 (or more) check in the hands of those making less than $250,000 for them to spend. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To save money? Cut NASA’s budget, as well as, Israel’s. LOL If anything, it would make me feel better knowing our money wasn’t be wasted.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to stimulate the economy is to put a $5,000 (or more) check in the hands of those making less than $250,000 for them to spend. </p>
<p>To save money? Cut NASA’s budget, as well as, Israel’s. LOL If anything, it would make me feel better knowing our money wasn’t be wasted.</p>
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		<title>By: UserLoser</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787204</link>
		<dc:creator>UserLoser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There you go being all rational and all. The Sadists can’t have your plan cause where would they get off and all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you go being all rational and all. The Sadists can’t have your plan cause where would they get off and all.</p>
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		<title>By: arcadesproject</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/09/obama-inspires-confidence-but-the-stimulus-plan-doesnt/#comment-1787187</link>
		<dc:creator>arcadesproject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Teddy, I’ve been thinking about a great way (it seems to me) to save loads of dough. Let’s review our corrections policies and reduce the number of people in jails and prisons.  Incarceration is a significant budget item at the state level and not cheap for the feds.  Our incarceration rate leads the world (at least, the developed world.).  It seens to me we could release many non-violent offenders, work out resitution agreements for many offenders whose crimes were against property, eliminate prison sentences for most drug &amp; alcohol related offenses, release pychotics from prison and treat them medically and, generally, replace our present insane and extremely expensive system with one that would work &amp; also be cheaper. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, why not?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teddy, I’ve been thinking about a great way (it seems to me) to save loads of dough. Let’s review our corrections policies and reduce the number of people in jails and prisons.  Incarceration is a significant budget item at the state level and not cheap for the feds.  Our incarceration rate leads the world (at least, the developed world.).  It seens to me we could release many non-violent offenders, work out resitution agreements for many offenders whose crimes were against property, eliminate prison sentences for most drug &amp; alcohol related offenses, release pychotics from prison and treat them medically and, generally, replace our present insane and extremely expensive system with one that would work &amp; also be cheaper. </p>
<p>Hey, why not?</p>
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