The incoming Obama administration is prepared to abandon George Bush’s –doctrine of isolating Hamas by establishing a channel to the Islamist organisation, sources close to the transition team say.
The move to open contacts with Hamas, which could be initiated through the US intelligence services, would represent a definitive break with the Bush –presidency’s ostracising of the group…
The Guardian has spoken to three –people with knowledge of the discussions in the Obama camp. There is no talk of Obama approving direct diplomatic negotiations with Hamas early on, but he is being urged by advisers to initiate low-level or clandestine approaches, and there is growing recognition in Washington that the policy of ostracising Hamas is counter-productive…
Richard Haass, a diplomat under both Bush presidents who was named by a number of news organisations this week as Obama’s choice for Middle East envoy, supports low-level contacts with Hamas provided there is a ceasefire in place and a Hamas-Fatah reconciliation emerges…
Another potential contender for a –foreign policy role in the Obama administration suggested that the president-elect would not be bound by the Bush doctrine of isolating Hamas.
"This is going to be an administration that is committed to negotiating with –critical parties on critical issues," the source said.
Even a secretive and low level approach would be a significant step in the right direction – let’s hope Ms. Goldenberg’s sources are right.
In the meantime, conditions in Gaza continue to get unbelievably worse. So bad in fact, that the Red Cross which “normally conducts confidential negotiations with warring parties” issued a very strong statement today protesting Israel’s:
"unacceptable" delays in letting rescue workers reach three Gaza City homes hit by shelling where they eventually found 15 dead and 18 wounded, including young children too weak to stand.
The Geneva-based International Committee of the Red Cross said the Israeli army refused rescuers permission to reach the site in the Zeitoun neighborhood for four days. Ambulances could not get to the neighborhood because the Israeli army had erected large earthen barriers that blocked access…
Eventually, rescuers from the international Red Cross and Palestine Red Crescent received permission to go into the shelled houses on Wednesday, four days after the buildings were hit by Israeli shells…
The rescue team "found four small children next to their dead mothers in one of the houses. They were too weak to stand up on their own. One man was also found alive, too weak to stand up," the statement said. "In all, there were at least 12 corpses lying on mattresses" in one of the houses, it added.
The Geneva-based organization said the children and the wounded had to be transported by donkey cart to ambulances.
"The Israeli military must have been aware of the situation but did not assist the wounded," the international Red Cross said. "Neither did they make it possible for us or the Palestine Red Crescent to assist the wounded."…
The organization said it believes "in this instance, the Israeli military failed to meet its obligation under international humanitarian law to care for and evacuate the wounded."
And the UN suspended all aid work in Gaza:
The move came after a Palestinian driver of a UN-contracted truck was killed by Israeli tank fire as he drove towards an Israeli border crossing to pick up humanitarian aid.
In a second incident yesterday, a three-vehicle UN convoy, which included two international staff members, came under "direct fire" from Israeli forces as it drove into Gaza to collect the body of a colleague killed earlier in the week, UNRWA said.
While the possibility of a shift to a dialogue with Hamas in an Obama administration is very good news, the people of Gaza can’t wait. The UN Security Council has just voted for an immediate cease-fire, Condi Rice speaking for the U.S. abstained.



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Thank you Siun. Given how incredibly neutral the ICRC is most of the time, their ire today is really important to highlight.
Great post Siun!
BO should immediately speak with Hamas and everyone else with bones to pick with each other. Until there is communication there will be no chance of peace. Both sides of every conflict throw bombs and kill each other.
I hope he can make a good case for timeout.
Greetings, Siun.
Digg is now open.
Evening – some good news but it’s still so bad in Gaza.
I hope the reports regarding Obama’s plans is true. It would represent one important step toward a saner foreign policy. Unfortunately, as Siun points out, the people of Gaza can’t wait.
Maybe this nightmare will soon be over.
Fourteen of the council’s 15 members voted in favor of the compromise resolution worked out in three days of intense bargaining involving several Arab foreign ministers, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, British Foreign Secretary David Miliband and French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner.
Ms Rice explained the surprise abstention by the US by saying it wanted to see the outcome of the Egyptian mediation effort. Despite the abstention, Ms Rice said the US supported the contents of the resolution.
The text “stresses the urgency of and calls for an immediate, durable and fully respected ceasefire, leading to the full withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.”
It “calls for the unimpeded provision and distribution throughout Gaza of humanitarian assistance, including of food, fuel and medical treatment” and welcomes initiatives aimed at “creating and opening humanitarian corridors and other mechanisms for the sustained delivery of humanitarian aid.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..-Gaza.html
Indeed. Especially with the UN and ICRC unable to bring in aid now. The press make much of the “lulls” but they’re only useful if a) there’s something to buy and b) one has money to buy it with. I saw an Al Jazeera video today with shoppers in what looked like a pretty well stocked store. But if you don’t have money….and so many don’t, what can you do? Even those buying weren’t purchasing heaps. AND no cooking fuel or refrigeration…
Sick-making. Out of words.
“The UN Security Council has just voted for an immediate cease-fire, Condi Rice speaking for the U.S. abstained.”
Why does the Bush administration hate peace?
That is ok..read my #6…
An abstention by the U.S. is essentially a “yes” vote. I’m shocked. Of course, if it’s not already part of their plan Israel will ignore it.
I don’t understand Rice’s reasoning, as described there…why abstain? Why not support a cease-fire?
This is so terribly sad and horrible there are no words to describe it.
Saving face? The important thing is that she said the US supports the resolution.
They want to continually engage and taunt the honey bees so they have an excuse to fight for…OIL. If they can engage, overwhelm, and secure the oil in the region….D’uh. Israel is the annoying catalyst for the beehives…they use Israel to tick off the oil countries…over and over. That is the Neocon agenda. Control the world’s oil and control the world.
We shall see.
They don’t care one iota about people, period.
The U.S. never votes against Israel. If the SC attempted to impose any sanctions, the U.S. would wield it’s veto. An abstention is fairly significant though, in that it may signal that the U.S. government is at least mildly concerned about the humanitarian crisis, or more likely the bad PR resulting from it.
A cowardly way of voting no. Expressly doing so wouldn’t go down very well considering the universal condemnation of Israel’s war, particularly in light of recent killings of children and UN relief workers.
As I said, the U.S. does not vote against Israel. Cowardly way of voting no… yes it is but the best we can expect. I wonder if it is symbolic of some last ditch attempt by Rice to salvage her reputation (good luck with that).
They don’t care about Palestinian people. They probably don’t think of them as people like themselves, but something lesser, the “other.” The sense of separateness gives birth to fear and suffering.
I know the history.
I think a cease-fire would be an improvement over the present situation, and I want my country to support a cease-fire along with the rest of the (sane)world. I do not find games involving abstention at all satisfying.
Dropping bombs on poor people is considered a form of foreign aid by some governments (such as ours).
thers upstairs
Siun, thanks for keeping up on this situation. From any of your sources, do you know if food and medical supplies are getting through to people? I’ve seen a report that an Iranian relief vessel is heading toward Gaza.
‘Iran aid ship nears Gaza’
Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:08:00 GMT
An Iranian aid ship, destined for Palestinians, has reportedly entered Egyptian waters and scheduled to dock at the port of Gaza on Saturday.
According to IRIB, the ship, with 2000 tons of humanitarian aid, passed through the Suez Canal and will head for Gaza “After obtaining needed permissions”.
http://www.presstv.com/detail……=351020202
Good question Peony,
The Iranians tried once before to send a ship in and were turned back – other arabic countries have also tried and many have shipped large amounts of aid to Egypt to try to get it in via the Rafah crossing.
As to aid getting to the people, it’s very shakey – as seen by the UN’s decision to stop operations. Israel has attacked aid shipments – and even when they don’t these 3 hour truces are not near enough for the aid trucks to get in, deliver supplies to the warehouses and then for people to get the supplies. There are only 5 bakeries operating at all, families do not have electricity or fuel, etc so it’s desperate. Just think about how hard it would be to do everything in 3 hours – get food, possibly get to medical care, try to find fuel for a generator or stove … awful.
I am very glad Iran is sending supplies – but I also think it’s important to note that many countries are doing so – Qatar, Yemen, Saudi and more.
Yes, in their twisted universe, it’s “bringing democracy” and “liberation.” The best I can say about this is it’s idealistic but totally blind.
That liberation and fostering democracy stuff is just spin for the folks back home.
On BBC news at 10:00 p.m. tonight: UN Security Council has voted 14 to 0 demanding immediate cease fire in Gaza. Condi Rice for U.S. abstained.
I’ll be so glad when that #@*&$@ woman no longer is seen or heard on the news. There was a clip of her speech in which she totally blamed Hamas. As long as US & Israel hold that adamant stand, granting no legitimacy to Hamas’ claims against Israel, there will be no progress in talks and the U.S. and Israel will further ostracize themselves from the majority in the world community.
I sincerely hope that Obama has initiated first steps in communicating with Hamas. Justice demands that the allegations and evidence from both parties be fully examined. The world needs a Judge Robert Jackson to deal with this matter.
Even Israelis has tried to get a ship into Gaza, but the Israeli gov’t denied them entry. Many in Israel don’t agree with what their government is doing in Palestine. There are good people in Israel that are trying hard to help.
Thanks Siun and bluebutterfly. The situation is frustrating and maddening. In an attempt to try and imagine a little of what the people of Gaza are going through, I went without food for about 36 hours and did not feel well afterwards. Can’t imagine being without fuel, cold, being terrorized, and seeing loved ones killed.
The ne-cons may not talk to Hamas but apparently Isr**l helped create Hamas.
Those pro-islamic libruls at Haaretz also claim Isr**l is responsible for the success of Hamas. The ten ways to help Hamas are:
That’s true. But Bush was reading Nathan Sharansky’s book on Democracy and from what I’ve read was influenced by it. May be wrong though.
The US demanded elections and were stunned when Hamas won. We never see on MSM that Hamas is a democratically elected government. Rice and Bush said from day one that they would not talk with Hamas. So much for spreading democracy.
Anti-Israeli Group Hamas Wins Palestinian Elections
At a time when the Israeli-Palestinian peace process is already in jeopardy due to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s massive stroke, the win by the militant Islamic group Hamas of a majority of seats in Wednesday’s Palestinian parliamentary elections has stunned observers and many Western leaders.
The final results found Hamas winning 76 seats in the governing body to the former ruling party Fatah’s 43.
Hamas has been labeled a terrorist organization by the U.S. and its European allies. In a surprise press conference Thursday morning (January 26), President Bush was markedly upbeat about the democratic nature of the elections, even as he vowed not to work with an organization that promotes violence.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articl…..lines=true
The CIA created Fatah and the Israelis created Hamas? How convenient..perpetual war to build the MIC coffers.
A CIA spokesman yesterday declined to comment. But a former CIA operations officer who worked in the Middle East, Robert Baer, said it was a major blow to Fatah, the party founded in 1966 by Yasser Arafat that America sought to prop up during the Oslo process as the CIA and Egyptian security services trained its members in the hopes that they would take action against jihadists such as Hamas.
“They are going to identify Fatah with the CIA. Fatah equals CIA is not a good selling point. They are going to show a record of training, spying on Hamas, that’s about it. It’s what we all knew. But the point is they have undermined the secular Palestinians for a long time. No one wants to be publicly associated with the CIA in the Middle East, except for maybe the Albanians,” Mr. Baer said.
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/h…..ces/56622/
Oh, that’s rich. Doesn’t the U.S. sell more weapons than any other country? And obviously Bush doesn’t know the history of U.S. foreign policy.
Sure he does. Like Palin, he reads all the books, really.
Karl says so, must be true.
I find it troubling that the Guardian refers to Hamas as an “organisation”. I guess the Nazis were just a political party, and the KKK is just a loose group of drinking buddies.
I am pleased, though, to see that President-Elect Obama is going to follow throught on his campaign promise by sitting down with dictators and terrorists and negotiate. While he’s in Gaza, to save gas on Air Force one, perhaps he can invite Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
I suggest that President Elect Obama should watch The Godfather to see what happened to Sonny when he didn’t properly take care of his spineless thug of a brother-inlaw who was beating Connie, Sonny’s sister. Or maybe he can just teach the the Chicago Way.
Thanks for the link, bb. That election was back in 2006 and the details had faded for me. Bush: …even as he vowed not to work with an organization that promotes violence.” That’s rich coming from him! I guess he didn’t promote violence with his unjustified war which killed near/over 100,000 Iraqis, over 4000 of our own citizens, maimed untold numbers…..Oh, how I hate that lying hypocrite!!! and Cheney and Rove and whoever their handlers are. All of them are students of David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. The evil that is in themselves they accuse others of.
last night, charlie rose did a great(as usual) interview with bob simon… it was refreshing to actually hear some honest opinion from someone from the MSM about Israel, and not a knee jerk zionist flag waving.
His opinion was that “history has passed by” a 2 state solution (and peace).. worth a view if you didn’t get to see it.
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/9900
Thanks, dachoste, for the link. I have a lot of respect for Bob Simon for he goes into the areas and does real reporting. He sure gave a depressing projection about the Israeli/Palestinian prospects.
I take a dim view of one matter that both Rose and Simon took for granted; that the Palestinians broke the cease-fire agreement. I’ve heard some very learned, objective people clearly state that Israel broke it on 11/04/08 while the U.S. was all caught up in the election. I’ll have to do more research on that.
Bush parrots the words he is told to parrot and can’t even do that right. Oh, he knows alright; lots of money made by his crime family through Carlye etc.
I used to be somewhat naive in that I thought there was some good in all people. After the death and destruction we have seen because of this administration, I have changed my mind. Some people are 100% evil.
In Bush’s mind, it was all just business. He does not feel human emotions. He is a dead man walking… emotionally and spiritually.
War is for profit. Soldiers are ‘cannon fodder’ as Kissinger said a few years ago.
Solders are not protected from IEDs because the warning system interferes with communication devices. They either can communicate with their convoy, etc, or they can detect IEDs. The unnecessary death of US forces courtesy of their own government. We hear all about US forces dying from these explosions, but we sure aren’t given the reason as to why they are.
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https://secure.wikileaks.org/leak/blue-force-comms-emc-warlock-test-results-2-2004.pdf
oops…I was reading the report and forgot to go back to the previous page that just gave the basic information before I did the link….
Not quite as bad as when I accidentally did a search link last week! I might live long enough to stop making mistakes. My intentions are good, but my follow through sometimes is not.
560 Israeli citizens signed this petition..’A call from within’..
In support of the Palestinian Human Rights Community Call for International Action
As if the occupation was not enough, the brutal ongoing repression of the Palestinian population, the construction of settlements and the siege of Gaza – now comes the bombardment of the civilian population: men, women, old folks and children. Hundreds of dead, hundreds of injured, overwhelmed hospitals, and the central medicine depot of Gaza bombed. The ship Dignity of the Free Gaza movement which brought emergency medical supplies and a number of physicians was also attacked. Israel has returned to openly committing war crimes, worse than what we have seen in a long time.
Israeli media do not expose their viewers to the horrors and to the voices of severe criticism of these crimes. The story told is uniform. Israeli dissidents are denounced as traitors. Public opinion including that of the Zionist left supports the Israeli policy uncritically and without reservation.
Israel’s destructive criminal policy will not cease without a massive intervention by the international community. However, except for some rather weak official condemnation, the international community is reluctant to intervene,. The United States openly supports the Israeli violence and Europe, although voicing some condemnation, is unwilling to seriously consider withdrawing the “gift” it handed Israel by upgrading its relations with the European Union.
In the past the world knew how to fight criminal policies. The boycott on South Africa was effective, but Israel is handled with kid gloves: its trade relations are flourishing, academic and cultural cooperation continue and intensify with diplomatic support.
This international backing must stop. That is the only way to stop the insatiable Israeli violence.
We are calling on the world to stop Israeli violence and not allow the continuation of the brutal occupation. We call on the world to Condemn and not become an accomplice in Israel’s crimes.
http://www.freegaza.org/en/hom…..i-citizens
Nobel Peace Laureate, Mairead Maguire has today written to the UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-Moon and Father Miguel D’Escoto President of United Nations General assembly adding her voice to the many calls from International Jurists,
Human rights Organizations, and individuals, for the UN General Assembly
To seriously consider establishing an International Criminal Tribunal for Israel
(ICTI) in view of the ongoing Israeli atrocities against the people of Gaza and
Palestine.
An ICTI can be established by the UN General Assembly as a ‘subsidiary organ’ under article 22 of the UN Charter. Article 22 of the UN Charter states the UN
General Assembly may establish such subsidiary organs as it deems necessary for the performance of its functions. The purpose of the ICTI would be to investigate and
Prosecute suspected Israeli war criminals for offences against the Palestinian people.
http://www.freegaza.org/en/hom…..war-crimes
AIPAC is busy sticking their nose into America’s business, as usual. Both the Democrats and Republicans are saluting them and falling into line. From here, you can read the House and Senate Resolution,submitted by Pelosi/McConnell and Reid/ Boehner.
Take Action Now!
Thank Your Senators for Supporting Israel’s Right to Self-Defense
The Senate passed a bipartisan resolution by unanimous consent supporting Israel’s continuing search for peace and right to defend itself against Hamas rocket attacks from Gaza. The resolution also calls for a durable and sustainable diplomatic outcome to the current crisis that will ensure an end to the smuggling of arms into Gaza and an end to Hamas terror attacks on Israel.
http://capwiz.com/aipac/issues…..38;type=co
http://www.aipac.org/694.asp#19564