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	<title>Comments on: Warning Off Panetta: Whose Water is the Wall Street Journal Carrying?</title>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/warning-off-panetta-whose-water-is-the-wsj-carrying/#comment-1784929</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, I just caught the bit on Rachel Maddow, very good piece with him.  I expect more McCain style howling (reminiscent of the POW hearings) from DiFi and Rocky.  They certainly don’t want the genie to leave the bottle.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I just caught the bit on Rachel Maddow, very good piece with him.  I expect more McCain style howling (reminiscent of the POW hearings) from DiFi and Rocky.  They certainly don’t want the genie to leave the bottle.</p>
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		<title>By: njr83</title>
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		<dc:creator>njr83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ham handed, indeed,&lt;br /&gt;
Bob Baer yesterday said the intel folk looked at the oversight committee with the order:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;treat them like mushrooms,  keep them in the dark and feed them manure”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and these were the folks Cheney people wanted to skirt and keep in the dark&lt;br /&gt;
so many groups, so many enemies&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ham handed, indeed,<br />
Bob Baer yesterday said the intel folk looked at the oversight committee with the order:</p>
<blockquote><p>treat them like mushrooms,  keep them in the dark and feed them manure”</p>
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<p>and these were the folks Cheney people wanted to skirt and keep in the dark<br />
so many groups, so many enemies</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ham handed use of the media?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My bet is on Cheney people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ham handed use of the media?</p>
<p>My bet is on Cheney people.</p>
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		<title>By: Thrasyboulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thrasyboulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suspect the WSJ is as concerned about the information Obama may receive, say, about Syria and Iran via Panetta as about torture. Looks to me like Obama is a clean info type of guy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Village is not pleased. Freaked, in fact.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the WSJ is as concerned about the information Obama may receive, say, about Syria and Iran via Panetta as about torture. Looks to me like Obama is a clean info type of guy.</p>
<p>The Village is not pleased. Freaked, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: JumpingIn</title>
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		<dc:creator>JumpingIn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Leon Panetta is a shrewd pick on many levels. But the way it’s stirring up the cozy Bush collaborators is a sight to behold. We all hope this means that mixed in with Obama’s rhetoric about moving forward to solve our critical national security problems, we will start to hear the word ACCOUNTABILITY. It’s going to take great gobs of savor-faire for Obama to go after the people responsible for the crimes without the Media turning it into a witchhunt.&lt;br /&gt;
-Jumpig In&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon Panetta is a shrewd pick on many levels. But the way it’s stirring up the cozy Bush collaborators is a sight to behold. We all hope this means that mixed in with Obama’s rhetoric about moving forward to solve our critical national security problems, we will start to hear the word ACCOUNTABILITY. It’s going to take great gobs of savor-faire for Obama to go after the people responsible for the crimes without the Media turning it into a witchhunt.<br />
-Jumpig In</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The gamesmanship involving the new administration is just getting under way and already their playing at the seventh level.  The notion that the fatuous WSJ’s editorial page is demanding competence in the management of a major government operation is laughable.  Look at their support for Gonzales, Bush, Rumsfeld, Chao, McConnell, et al.  Porter Gosse was an experienced politician and former CIA analyst.  All he did was carry water for Kyle Sampson-like White House-anointed proteges whose job was to make the Agency less competent by purging it of those not with Veeper Cheney’s program.  Look at the string of top Agency talent, good men all, caught up in corruption scandals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what’s the point?  Schadenfreude that hides a secret happiness over the backstabbing and internal Dem squabbling?  Whipping up a false controversy, using guerilla tactics against a wildly popular new president?  Or is it fear that an accomplished Villager not yet beholden to the masters of the new intelligence industrial complex might put something ahead of protecting other Villagers?  Like national security or competent management and analysis.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Washington doesn’t have a Village idiot; its a village of idiots.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gamesmanship involving the new administration is just getting under way and already their playing at the seventh level.  The notion that the fatuous WSJ’s editorial page is demanding competence in the management of a major government operation is laughable.  Look at their support for Gonzales, Bush, Rumsfeld, Chao, McConnell, et al.  Porter Gosse was an experienced politician and former CIA analyst.  All he did was carry water for Kyle Sampson-like White House-anointed proteges whose job was to make the Agency less competent by purging it of those not with Veeper Cheney’s program.  Look at the string of top Agency talent, good men all, caught up in corruption scandals.</p>
<p>So what’s the point?  Schadenfreude that hides a secret happiness over the backstabbing and internal Dem squabbling?  Whipping up a false controversy, using guerilla tactics against a wildly popular new president?  Or is it fear that an accomplished Villager not yet beholden to the masters of the new intelligence industrial complex might put something ahead of protecting other Villagers?  Like national security or competent management and analysis.  </p>
<p>Washington doesn’t have a Village idiot; its a village of idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
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		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So maybe it is DiFi who is feelignthreatened? maybe that’s why she is threw her little hissy fit yesterday? I could see how finding out in the newspaper might make her think that she, and BFF jane Harman, are about to be thrown under the bus?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, then does that mena that PEBO explained a scenario where that the truth could come out, but she could survive during their call yesterday?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, to have been a fly on the walllllllll&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So maybe it is DiFi who is feelignthreatened? maybe that’s why she is threw her little hissy fit yesterday? I could see how finding out in the newspaper might make her think that she, and BFF jane Harman, are about to be thrown under the bus?</p>
<p>So, then does that mena that PEBO explained a scenario where that the truth could come out, but she could survive during their call yesterday?</p>
<p>Oh, to have been a fly on the walllllllll</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah.  The great thing about Panetta is that all the right people hate him, and a few key good guys, such as Rush Holt, like him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  The great thing about Panetta is that all the right people hate him, and a few key good guys, such as Rush Holt, like him.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great idea Diane! LOL&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea Diane! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: karnak12</title>
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		<dc:creator>karnak12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ooooh! Absofuckinglutely (pardon the expletive). If it rocks Difi’s boat(and others of that same ilk), how can that be a bad thing?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh! Absofuckinglutely (pardon the expletive). If it rocks Difi’s boat(and others of that same ilk), how can that be a bad thing?</p>
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