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	<title>Comments on: The 3 Final Solutions to the Palestinian Problem</title>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1786154</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hope you have time to go back and read the article I gave in my post&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I meant the link I gave in my comment @ 84&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I hope you have time to go back and read the article I gave in my post</p>
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<p>I meant the link I gave in my comment @ 84</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1786153</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t know if you’ll come back and read this, but anyway&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi Kenosha, I used to live in Appleton - almost neighbors *g*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope you have time to go back and read the article I gave in my post, it contains a great amount of wisdom by the author Robert Satloff. If you do go back and read the introduction he gives for his book, you will understand that I think he’s taking a thoughtful correct approach in how he looks at the subject we were discussing, that he also describes as being uncomfortable, but important for both the Israeli’s and the Muslim peoples in the ME. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I clicked on your links and can’t dismiss what they say, but at the same time I could bring up the Kasztner Affair, and also the collaboration of the Lehi Group (also know as the Stern Gang) with the Nazi’s which does no one any good because then we would have to go back and forth and get into a flame war type discussion. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me take just a snippet of what he says&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;At that early date, I decided that the most useful response I could offer to 9/11 was to combat Arab ignorance of the Holocaust. The question was how to do it. &lt;b&gt;An adversarial approach, I soon realized, was the wrong way to engage Arabs if I truly wanted to change attitudes on a taboo topic. To do that, I needed to make the Holocaust accessible to Arabs; I needed to make the Holocaust an Arab story.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The answer came to me one autumn evening in 2001. “Whoever saves one life, saves the entire world,” says the Qur’an, an echo of the Talmud’s injunction “If you save one life, it is as if you have saved the world.”&lt;/b&gt; If I could tell the story of a single Arab who saved a single Jew during the Holocaust, then perhaps I could make Arabs see the Holocaust as a source of pride, worthy of remembering, not just something to avoid or deny. It was, I thought, the most positive solution I could imagine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please read what he wrote and listen to the interview. I think it will give you some good food for thought because he seems to be a very wise man&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know if you’ll come back and read this, but anyway</p>
<p>Hi Kenosha, I used to live in Appleton &#8211; almost neighbors *g*</p>
<p>I hope you have time to go back and read the article I gave in my post, it contains a great amount of wisdom by the author Robert Satloff. If you do go back and read the introduction he gives for his book, you will understand that I think he’s taking a thoughtful correct approach in how he looks at the subject we were discussing, that he also describes as being uncomfortable, but important for both the Israeli’s and the Muslim peoples in the ME. </p>
<p>I clicked on your links and can’t dismiss what they say, but at the same time I could bring up the Kasztner Affair, and also the collaboration of the Lehi Group (also know as the Stern Gang) with the Nazi’s which does no one any good because then we would have to go back and forth and get into a flame war type discussion. </p>
<p>Let me take just a snippet of what he says</p>
<blockquote><p>At that early date, I decided that the most useful response I could offer to 9/11 was to combat Arab ignorance of the Holocaust. The question was how to do it. <b>An adversarial approach, I soon realized, was the wrong way to engage Arabs if I truly wanted to change attitudes on a taboo topic. To do that, I needed to make the Holocaust accessible to Arabs; I needed to make the Holocaust an Arab story.</b></p>
<p><b>The answer came to me one autumn evening in 2001. “Whoever saves one life, saves the entire world,” says the Qur’an, an echo of the Talmud’s injunction “If you save one life, it is as if you have saved the world.”</b> If I could tell the story of a single Arab who saved a single Jew during the Holocaust, then perhaps I could make Arabs see the Holocaust as a source of pride, worthy of remembering, not just something to avoid or deny. It was, I thought, the most positive solution I could imagine.</p>
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<p>Please read what he wrote and listen to the interview. I think it will give you some good food for thought because he seems to be a very wise man</p>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1785983</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thought you would like to know that I slept the sleep of the just and reasonable last night.  You?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought you would like to know that I slept the sleep of the just and reasonable last night.  You?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1785982</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Yes, I would like to see peace. But, the more Israel flexes the muscles given to it by the US, the farther that day moves to the future.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK, can we get a little concrete here?  What moves should Hamas make to bring that day of peace closer?  Should they rethink their policy of rocketing civilian populations?  Should they abandon their pledge to eradicate the State of Israel?  I really want to know if you believe that Hamas has any responsibility in this mess.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Yes, I would like to see peace. But, the more Israel flexes the muscles given to it by the US, the farther that day moves to the future.”</p>
<p>OK, can we get a little concrete here?  What moves should Hamas make to bring that day of peace closer?  Should they rethink their policy of rocketing civilian populations?  Should they abandon their pledge to eradicate the State of Israel?  I really want to know if you believe that Hamas has any responsibility in this mess.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1785981</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Disproportionate warfare is a two-way street.  On the Hamas side it means suicide bombers and firing wildly inaccurate rocket bombs into civilians in Israel.  So I’m a Palestinian who just voted Hamas into power in Gaza, thrilled by their revolutionary rhetoric and their defiance and hatred of the cursed jews.  Then I see Hamas placing its rocket launchers, ammunition, and soldiers into my apartment building or next to hospitals and schools, or in mosques.  After that I observe the Hamas decision to start indiscriminately rocketing the most powerful country in the Middle East, a country with the institutional memory of 6 million of its people being murdered while the world dithered.  When the inevitable response comes from Israel, it might be logical to start rethinking that vote.  A mass murderer with an Uzi will face a disproportionate response from the SWAT team, but that doesn’t make the mass murderer a victim.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disproportionate warfare is a two-way street.  On the Hamas side it means suicide bombers and firing wildly inaccurate rocket bombs into civilians in Israel.  So I’m a Palestinian who just voted Hamas into power in Gaza, thrilled by their revolutionary rhetoric and their defiance and hatred of the cursed jews.  Then I see Hamas placing its rocket launchers, ammunition, and soldiers into my apartment building or next to hospitals and schools, or in mosques.  After that I observe the Hamas decision to start indiscriminately rocketing the most powerful country in the Middle East, a country with the institutional memory of 6 million of its people being murdered while the world dithered.  When the inevitable response comes from Israel, it might be logical to start rethinking that vote.  A mass murderer with an Uzi will face a disproportionate response from the SWAT team, but that doesn’t make the mass murderer a victim.</p>
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		<title>By: druidity36</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1785807</link>
		<dc:creator>druidity36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and yet refugees from Haiti will be sent back to their devastated island in the coming weeks…. they’ve suffered from multiple Katrina sized storms in the past few months.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yet refugees from Haiti will be sent back to their devastated island in the coming weeks…. they’ve suffered from multiple Katrina sized storms in the past few months.</p>
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		<title>By: IntelVet</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1785762</link>
		<dc:creator>IntelVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israeli soldiers take over office buildings and apartment complexes, denying the innocent inhabitants the ability to leave in order to shield themselves and buy propaganda should they be attacked.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dead people are left on the streets because, well, not possessing tanks or the fuel to power vehicles, there is no cover to retrieve the bodies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and, “righteous indignation” is the excuse for the incursion, the indignation over the rockets, leaving sanity in the dust.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and, yes, some (few) relief supplies were used as propaganda fodder in order to buy a “cease-fire”.  That, after months of denying Gaza supplies.  Wow.  Big whoop!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, I would like to see peace.  But, the more Israel flexes the muscles given to it by the US, the farther that day moves to the future.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regime change in Israel.  Love the people.  Detest the government.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli soldiers take over office buildings and apartment complexes, denying the innocent inhabitants the ability to leave in order to shield themselves and buy propaganda should they be attacked.</p>
<p>Dead people are left on the streets because, well, not possessing tanks or the fuel to power vehicles, there is no cover to retrieve the bodies.</p>
<p>and, “righteous indignation” is the excuse for the incursion, the indignation over the rockets, leaving sanity in the dust.</p>
<p>and, yes, some (few) relief supplies were used as propaganda fodder in order to buy a “cease-fire”.  That, after months of denying Gaza supplies.  Wow.  Big whoop!</p>
<p>Yes, I would like to see peace.  But, the more Israel flexes the muscles given to it by the US, the farther that day moves to the future.</p>
<p>Regime change in Israel.  Love the people.  Detest the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, I know the answer to that one!: Because defenders of disproportionate, not to mention in effect genocidal modern military assaults on defenseless captive suppressed populations (who incidentally by the terms of the laws of war are a protected class) must never go unanswered?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I know the answer to that one!: Because defenders of disproportionate, not to mention in effect genocidal modern military assaults on defenseless captive suppressed populations (who incidentally by the terms of the laws of war are a protected class) must never go unanswered?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1785713</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/07/the-3-final-solutions-to-the-palestinian-problem/#comment-1785698</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Weren’t you going to sleep?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren’t you going to sleep?</p>
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