The war has widened in Israel, as Hezbollah implied it would. Missile strikes from Lebanon are reported. Israel is said to be striking back at missile sites with war planes, but there is no confirmation of this. The expansion of the war follows the logic of extremism: the truce broke down, and Hamas' sympathizers have edged into the conflict.
Extremism has it's own logic. That logic is to generate hate between moderates who identify with culture, or nationality, or ethnicity, because of the actions of the extremists. They understand that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and they hope for a world blinded by rage. The released transcripts of the Pakistani attacks in the Mumbai massacre underline precisely how inhuman extremism is, and precisely how clearly this dynamic is understood:
Oberoi Trident Hotel
0353 hours
Pakistan caller 1: Brother Abdul. The media is comparing your action to 9/11. One senior police official has been killed.
Mumbai terrorist 1: We are on the 10th/11th floor. We have five hostages.
Pakistan caller 2: Everything is being recorded by the media. Inflict the maximum damage. Keep fighting. Don't be taken alive.
Pakistan caller 1: Kill all hostages, except the two Muslims. Keep your phone switched on so that we can hear the gunfire.
Mumbai terrorist 2: We have three foreigners, including women. From Singapore and China.
Pakistan caller 1: Kill them.
(Voices of gunmen can be hearddirecting hostages to stand in a line, and telling two Muslims to stand aside. Sound of gunfire. Sound of cheering voices.)
It means, as James Fallows, guest tonight on Virtually Speaking points out, that extremists ask the important question: "what happens then?" The extremist understands that those who were part of the uncommitted majority become committed. That extreme action creates extreme response, and this makes more extremists. Whether in India, or Gaza.
The Mumbai attackers compared their actions to 9/11. They wanted an act that would radicalize, not the Pakistani state, but the Indian state. They wanted India to turn to force, and in doing so, create more adherents to their cause. India followed the attacks, not with aggression, but with restraint and continued diplomatic pressure. Instead of invading Pakistan, the country whose nationals carried out the strike, or even bombing it, they began to pressure Pakistan to do something itself. This is difficult for the Pakistani government to do, but it is easier than a confrontation that neither nation can afford. Even in the middle of massacring civilians, the extremist thinks about the long term implications of his actions. To defeat extremists, is to deny them the knee jerk response to anger, and thus cut off their attack.
Osama bin Laden's objective was to draw the United States into protracted direct confrontation with Islamic populations, thus assuring that a generation grew up within earshot of American bombs, and like a civilian in Kristof's most recent column “From now on, I am Hamas. I choose resistance.” When a cease fire is broken by Israel striking with a fighter bomber that kills a man and a woman in a car, it is easy to see that the extremist are winning in their war to blind the world with rage.
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aaarrrggghhh
Actually, both Israel and Hezbollah are attributing the rockets to Palestinian groups in Lebanon - not to Lebanon.
oh my
Ok next post should be America hits Iran.
For what it is worth, Sterling, Philip Weiss, one of the most courageous people in American journalism, highlighted firedoglake this morning, as an example of the new paradigm in American journalism. He didn’t say so specifically, but I have a hunch he was thinking of this blog’s war coverage when he wrote that.
Then the next one Obama gets stuck with new Bush war/mistake.
Or martial law has been declared Bush is President for life.
WW3 is on Hurrah the Rapture is On!
But, but, but - they can’t have the rapture until Queen Esther is on board!
The new model of publishing is the stable of bloggers. That’s the way the world is moving. Foreign Policy, firedoglake, antiwar.com, and the Atlantic have all chosen this model, replacing the professional guild/captive-advertising model of the late great newspaper. The blog-stable is a highly-evolved social organization that mingles great individualism with antilike cohesion and scraps of income.
http://www.philipweiss.org/mon.....phere.html
My bold Nice Shout Out
On minute 2.50 You have to show this to TeddySanFran
Just done God appoints leaders then Bush is proof that God hates America?
This should have been expected !
As I stated in an earlier post the threat to Israel doesn’t just come from the Gaza strip.
They can expect to be attacked by outside groups sympathetic to the Palestinians
The Israelis don’t understand what they’ve brought on themselves
Transcribe and do a Diary Python Spirits! sha na na or what ever the preacher said, Witchcraft is bad I don’t think that has been a real problem since the Salem Witch trials.
Oh today I saw a gossip rag saying Sarah was getting a divorce.
Yep. That banner was right.
Pu- leeeeeze! Who’s she going to marry — Joe? He’s gone to be a war correspondent.
countdown to marital law………D minus seven…..and counting………..
Se will wait for him…Chaste Bwahahaha!
Just posted your video on Teddy’s diary about terror in Seattle gave you Cred.
So is Condi rushing to Israel yet? Would that be a good or bad thing?
I could handle only so much of that!!
Good for the shoe boutiques. And she needs some blood stained pom poms.
Do Alaska Unions have mob ties like many do down here? I’m wondering how Sarah arranged for Levy’s Union job. The Mob does sell jobs.
Yes after Laura gets a divorce
Crap have to fill up the gas tank before the price of oil goes up! That should have been included in the post.
You know, even Imelda Palin knows what shit on your heel can do. I think she sat that one out.
I have no way to answer that question. Up here, the Mob is who we vote for, not who the FBI is after. On second thought…..
2nd thought - there’s no evidence Palin even knew how Levi got the apprenticeship. After all, there’s a lot of evidence she pays no attention whatsoever to what those kids do.
Lebanon attacks even though they know Bush will attack their backers in Iran? Are we being set up?
TCU - “Lebanon” did not attack, apparently a small group of fighters, most likely from a Palestinian group shot off the rockets.
hey, bill kristof got *half a clue
it’s also worth remembering that ronnie raygun and george herbert walker bush coddled Saddam Hussein
then you would have the other half of the frickin clue, and you might begin to see a pattern
and if you added the memory about Osama Bin Laden’s close relationship with prominent repuglitards, including the aforementioned ronnie raygun, g h w bush, donald dumsfeld, et al, you’d have EVIDENCE of a pattern
but then kristof would only have a THIRD of a clue
still, a third of a clue would be pretty good for most NY Times editorial columnists
Bush and Cheney would be rounded up should they try Martial Law, regardless of the scenario.
Let us hope this pulls people back from the brink.
We wrote about that here at FDL.
In a week that saw the Senate seatin’ follies, this one still has a chance at dumbest story, or maybe I mean lamest:
“We want to be the wedding destination of the world,” said Deputy Mayor [of NYC] Patti Harris.
Y’all need to get yourselves a real mayor, quick, before he turns the place irrevocably into Newyorkburg.
Attaturk is upstairs!
Going through the motions
Not hate, Mr. Newberry.
Calculation.
Hassan Nasrallah is crazy like a fox. Remember, his are the people who handed the IDF an very unexpected and embarrassing bloody nose two and a half years ago.
He understands perfectly well that Israel has bitten off more than it can easily chew.
Its problems in Gaza are not operational. That war is being carried out, for all intents and purposes, in a phone booth. Hamas has NO geographic depth. And Hamas is almost certainly neither trained nor fortified as well as Hizbullah was three years ago.
The problems for Israel in Gaza are all on the strategic level, and they’re long-term. They were made infinitely worse by last week’s invasion. As I’ve written elsewhere, there really isn’t a long-term endgame for Israel that’s winnable. Now. Not even if they reduce everybody in Hamas senior to a waterboy to bloodstains on the pavement. And I’m far from alone in that opinion.
Long story short, Israel’s government has blundered. And the leadership of Hisbullah wants it to compound that blunder by getting itself involved in a two-front aggressive war. It will find the South Lebanon defenses much tougher meat than anything the poor Palestinians of Gaza can assemble.
Meanwhile, the endgame in Gaza is stark. Either Israel accepts failure to suppress the nuisance attacks, which means political defeat. Or it resolves to depopulate the Gaza Strip. There is really no third option available anymore.
And depopulation of Gaza may just be enough to lose it the support of the United States. Finally.
If that happens, Israel’s prospects are not promising.
Sheikh Nasrallah would have to be crazy not to want a piece of that. Since, IMHO, he’s running himself for as close as he can get to ruler of Lebanon.
You said it. I hope this is not true and the rockets really ARE from Gaza. But if not, I haven’t had enough coffee yet to even begin to wrap my mind around this one.
You asked, “Are we being set up?” - - I’ve had that creepy feeling since I read about our soldiers being stationed in Israel for the first time ever. That happened on 09/21/2008. The article is in defensenews.com Link:
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3744319
title: U.S. Deploys Radar, Troops to Israel
Hideous. I don’t get it. Kill them for what?