There’s one big problem with Obama’s stimulus bill: the numbers don’t work. Because of the excessive reliance on tax cutting up front, the bill forgoes over 200 billion dollars of GDP, and approximately 40 billion dollars of additional lost tax revenue. This means he’s accepting an estimated additional 3/4 of a point of unemployment for no other reason that he likes tax cutting. It’s bad policy by a President who obviously hasn’t been reading Martin Wolf:
Welcome to 2009. This is a year in which the fate of the world economy will be determined, maybe for generations. Some entertain hopes that we can restore the globally unbalanced economic growth of the middle years of this decade. They are wrong. Our choice is only over what will replace it. It is between a better balanced world economy and disintegration. That choice cannot be postponed. It must be made this year.
The problem is that a banking crisis produces large falls in demand, output and employment. Worse still, it has an exponential curve of effect: half of all countries facing such a crisis have real debt increase by somewhat under 150%, but many run away and see an almost endless drain. The lesson is to reach ignition of recovery quickly, or suffer a period of lurches and reverses. Wolf warns exactly what happens next:
And to get to this point the fiscal boost must be huge. A discretionary boost of $760bn (€570bn, £520bn) or 5.3 per cent of GDP is not enough. The authors argue that “even with the application of almost unbelievably large fiscal stimuli, output will not increase enough to prevent unemployment from continuing to rise through the next two years”.
Now think what will happen if, after two or more years of monstrous fiscal deficits, the US is still mired in unemployment and slow growth. People will ask why the country is exporting so much of its demand to sustain jobs abroad. They will want their demand back. The last time this sort of thing happened – in the 1930s – the outcome was a devastating round of beggar-my-neighbour devaluations, plus protectionism. Can we be confident we can avoid such dangers? On the contrary, the danger is extreme. Once the integration of the world economy starts to reverse and unemployment soars, the demons of our past – above all, nationalism – will return. Achievements of decades may collapse almost overnight.
In short, some form of protectionism comes into vogue. We had protectionism in the last decade: houses, defense, and health care are all industries that, because of their location, are protected from competition. China can do many things, but it can’t build a house in the suburbs of Dallas, and people don’t fly to Beijing to get their tonsils checked. This protectionism was a contributing factor to the "global imbalance" of supply and demand. Americans have been spending on consumption, and on creating financial instruments. However neither are supply. China can produce supply for consumption, but it means a burden on resource supply. While oil has collapsed, the volatility of oil markets should be a warning: all it takes is a fight in Gaza to add 10% to the cost of gasoline in the space of two weeks, and long term, both supply and sink of carbon based energy sources are constrained.
What Obama seems to have missed politically, dazzled by 80% preproval numbers – that is people don’t approve of what he is doing, they approve of him being given a chance to do something – is that liberals must push back on calling another tax cut and spend bill "Keynesian stimulus" because counter-cyclical stimulus is one of the pillars of liberalism. It is one of the key conclusions that separates modern economics from classical economics – that an economy can fall below full output, and that only government has the power to be, in such cases, the buy, seller, borrow, lender, employer, and insurer of last resort. Only government has a chance of being here when the economy craters and we are all thinking about the "eating babies case."
Krugman struck back with this blog post – and admitted that he was being generous in his estimates of the efficacy of the plan as it stands. There are increasing signs of discontent from liberal supporters of Obama, precisely because this is a core asset of the liberal idea. It is one of those ideas that Republicans, such as the Heritage Foundation, constantly seek to discredit, because they would much rather have defense spending and tax cutting as the means of redistributing buying power from the future to the present, and they promote pro-cyclical policies: make the bubbles bigger, and let the busts fall on the ordinary people to pay off with regressive taxation.
Small symbolic things, like Rick Warren being a prominent part of the inauguration, are easily forgotten in the present. But core beliefs, are more likely to produce a sense that this President is not our President, and is someone who will veer far to the right at enormous cost to the country.
Better policy and politics would have been to let the Republicans propose their business tax cuts, with some kind of justification. Because, after all, there are better and worse ways to do things, and the Republicans would, if having to drive the issue, have to select from tax changes which offer the highest demonstrated ability to generate demand inside the US, rather than simply being a hand out to those who don’t even need a hand up. Better policy would be to have fewer generic tax cuts, and a greater focus on expansion of next generation broadband, wireless umbrellas, incentives for energy efficiency, a "soot buster" program – buy back old cars in exchange for newer ones, coupons for soot filters – and money for strict enforcement of speed limits. We have a brief window where resource inflation has eased, we need to use that window to shift the global imbalance in supply and demand, or it will be much more expensive later to do it, if, as observers from the IMF on down, we get a chance to do it at all.
Stimulus, remember, must be timely, targeted, and effective. We should have had larger stimulus last spring, but we got a war spending bill and a rebate on the inflation tax. It was somewhat timely, but neither targeted, nor effective. Now we are running out of map, and the stimulus being proposed is still not well enough targeted, and is likely not to be effective enough to buy the time that we need.
Related posts:
- Fox News Slags Stimulus Bill for Being Too Republican
- Biden to Smack Boehner Around on Stimulus
- Eric Cantor Says Stimulus Bill Failed, Except That Whole Creating Jobs in His Home State Part
- NYT Can’t Recall that Republicans Who Demand “Where Are the Jobs?” All Voted Against the Stimulus
- Boehner Enlists Bloodhound to Look for Stimulus Jobs, Forgets They’re in His Home State





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There are increasing signs of discontent from liberal supporters of Obama, precisely because this is a core asset of the liberal idea.
Yes. Yes, there are. Yes. Yes, it is.
A quick and easy way to restore purchasing power in the face of food inflation would be to exempt Social Security benefits from taxation, period. This would prompt spending by the elderly and the disabled, who really really need the relief now.
We also need to tax the dividends that make the rich richer, and lower the payroll taxes that make the poor poorer.
Private employment survey shows 500,000 private sector jobs lost in December on a seasonally adjusted basis:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3432…..07658.html
What this means is not that layoffs happened in huge numbers, but that expected hiring did not happen.
Darling of UK says recovery not until 2010:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/05fc…..07658.html
Profit warnings continue, Warner takes 25B charge:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/…..94012.html
CBO says deficit to hit 1.2 trillion in next Fiscal year.
The signs that the present dithering is a luxury we cannot afford are growing.
A tax increase on the wealthy would actually help, because it would signal that the time to profitize is over.
Obama is good at and likes making political deals.
The question is, can he, will he, transcend politics?
On NPR yesterday, they kept talking about how the tax cuts were added in the interest of bi-partisanship.
Fuck bi-partisanship, capitulating to the failed ideology of Republicans is why we’re so deep in this mess in the first place.
We have the numbers now (with help from at least one moderate Republican in the Senate) to pass a “good” plan rather than a “bi-partisan” plan.
It’s time to put neoliberalism behind us and get back to solid, Keynesian economics.
Let the partisans you want to buy, tell you what it will take for bi-partisanship. It’s cheaper.
Its like Alice In Wonderland watching the serious persons on tv pushing tax cuts and tax cuts only after tax cuts got us into this mess. There is little to zero pushback against the all tax cut meme. It is insanity. On tv one continues to see three conservatives plus a conservative host vs. one liberal on most of the serious shows like the George Stephanapoulis Comedy Hour.
Who the Hell is Sterling Newberry?
More important things to do like Hoyer’s Congressional Declaration of Support for everything Israel desires.
The closing price in oil futures varied from $37.71 on December 26 to $48.81 on January 5.
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/rclc1d.htm
This would be about a 30% volatility in price due to Israel’s assault on Gaza.
The CBO also has its budget deficit projections out for fiscal year 2009 (i.e. ending September 30, 2009).
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99x…..utlook.pdf
(p. 15) among others.
There is also an article in the Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01…..=1&hp
The CBO is estimating an off-budget deficit of $1.186 trillion. This is what is usually referred to as “the deficit” and includes money from Social Security surpluses.
The on budget deficit the CBO projects at $1.34 trillion (i.e. the deficit without offsetting Social Security surpluses).
These are historical highs. We need deficit spending like this to help re-inflate our economy but what is so upsetting about it is that so much of it has been wasted or poorly spent.
there are a few problems with obama’s plan, numero uno is that he does not educate the masses on what caused these issues (reagan giving.midlle class assets to the wealthy, deregulation translating into corporations not paying their own bills, allowing the contraband of foreign products produced by slave wages, and the fed retarding the growth of labor wage.
fdr almost made the mistake of not being bold enough, obama must be bold in more ways then fdr, obama must be bold not only with his economic programs but he MUST be bold educating this country on what went wrong…if not we will cycle through even if we see sucess
how do tax cuts help people with no jobs or who don’t pay taxes?
i don’t know what this is (the tax cut / bipartisanship stuff), but it doesn’t look to me like a way to get the dems bill passed – what it looks like is that the dems in general and obama in particular are frightened of being responsible for the decisions they make and are looking for political cover.
news flash to congress and obama: that’s not leadership. that’s not good governance. that’s not even representing the people who voted for you. you wanted to be in charge. now act like it and make some decisions that are in the best interests of the country. and if you fuck up sometimes, like we all do, take responsibility for it and try to do better next time.
How does this calculation work? I’m having trouble getting my head around it. Should it be “jobs ‘lost’”? Isn’t the bottom line still that there’s still a huge number of people competing for half a million fewer jobs?
And what’s all this BS about reining in defecit spending? Isn’t this exactly the wrong place in the so-called business cycle to be worried about defecits? Never mind that in the last 6 years it hasn’t bothered anyone that the Iraq war, etc, are the biggest contributors?
FunnyDiva
They don’t. We need JOBS. Training. Housing. Food. Medical care.
Hugh, do either of these defecit numbers reflect what’s being spent on our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
FunnyD
What Selise said!
FunnyD
i agree – but there is the possibility that you and obama do not agree on either what caused the problems or on what to do about them. :(
Excellent post Stirling, your policy positions are most definitely part of the “change” we voted for. I’ve been apprehensive ever since his economic team was announced. But after he said this earlier today,
“We expect that discussion around entitlements will be a part, a central part” of efforts to curb federal spending, Mr. Obama said at a news conference. By February, he said, “we will have more to say about how we’re going to approach entitlement spending.”
I am now downright nauseous!
Me, too, especially since “entitlement spending” invariably means domestic, social safety net-related spending and always excludes the MIC.
FunnyD
Well actually this does mean that layoffs happened in huge numbers. Even before the meltdown, Bush’s job creation numbers were anemic.
In the 84 months from January 2001 to December 2007 (when the NBER says the recession started), seasonally adjusted total nonfarm jobs increased from 132,469,000 to 138,078,000 or 5.609 million or 66,800 a month.
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm
You have to set the forms yourself.
So if half a million jobs were lost in December almost all of them were due to layoffs (and by the way I don’t think the December Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers are out yet). The FT is using a different survey.
The financial crisis is having another manifestation and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories…..sBySection
304 hrs & 22 min
so, in a single month, a tenth of W’s pre-meltdown job creation went *POOF*?
Heckuva job. Too bad for us ordinary Americans…we’ll be lucky to have any sort of job at all!
FunnyD
The short answer is yes and no. The deficit projections take into account what has already been budgeted for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for FY 2009. But as the report notes, there will likely be supplemental appropriations for them later this year and those have not been included in the current projections. And if I am reading the report correctly that could add up to another $120 billion to the total.
Every month we lose a half-million jobs puts Obama’s plan to create (or save) three million jobs deeper in the hole. At this point, he’ll need to create (not save, create) four million jobs by spring 2010 just to stay even with population growth.
Yes, there is nothing like curbing demand at a time of contraction when you are trying to stave off depression. Head beginning to hurt here.
Also I thought Obama was about raising the caps on FICA not lowering benefits. What’s up with this?
I think the Incredible Shrinking Economy (ISE) that the data will announce over the next three weeks will be enough to concentrate President O’s and Congress’s attention enough to shift the weight of the programme to expenditures. At the very least, they could bail out the states and muncipalities, who are reeling under the negative shock of collapsing sales tax and property tax revenues, not to mention the income tax witholdings.
Giving it to the states raises some moral hazard problems, but certainly fewer and less difficult than the ones created by the financial bail-out. As far as I know, we aren’t paying governors multi-million dollar bonuses.
Saving jobs means nothing. How can you even determine if a job has been saved? It is like trying to prove a negative. How can you show that a job was not lost?
If there are some 132 million Americans currently working and in two years say there are 131 million, has Obama lost 1 million jobs or saved 131 million?
Or has he lost more than 1 million jobs because anyone who lost their job more than 6 months before that tally will have fallen off the unemployment rolls?
That’s my other problem with the employment numbers.
FunnyD
saved 131 million, of course. that’s the beauty of the plan! /s
Stiglitz and Feldstein were on Charlie Rose last night. It was interesting to hear Feldstein being as pro-active as he was because 1) he worked under Reagan and was a deficit hawk, 2) he was a member of the Group of 30 that among other things talked up derivatives back in the early 1990s, and 3) Larry Summers was his doctoral student.
Anyway, Stiglitz pointed out that the discretionary side of the US budget is small ($250 billion if I remember correctly) This would be including defense with entitlements I think for non-discretionary. So his point was that Obama couldn’t spend a stimulus this size except by passing a lot of it through the states because the federal government didn’t have the resources to do so.
We should have had larger stimulus last spring, but we got a war spending bill and a rebate on the inflation tax. It was somewhat timely, but neither targeted, nor effective.
And Obama supported it whole-heartedly. He’s always told us what he is and it’s not a liberal.
Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we will be bankrupt. This mess is monumental. I predict that it will be too costly (@ $300/hr) to even figure out what went wrong.
My guess is we are going to go through what Russia did. Nationalize everything, give everyone stock, and then allow the oligarchs to fraudulently gain control “in the national interest”. Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is to build a better mousetrap — i.e., figure out how to stop the oligarchs and protect the common shareholders through orderly, well-regulated financial markets.
How I learned To Hate Larry Summers
The Financial Times has a positive article about Larry Summers this morning. The bottom line is he is credited with the government intervening in the Peso crisis of 94 to avoid a financial calamity.
I discovered Larry Summers theory on defeating Gibson’s paradox. (In an nutshell the theory is if government could suppress the price of Gold then it could lower interest rates and print as many $’s as so desired). I can appreciate that fact that Larry Summers core belief is he is smarter than the markets and can fool it with government intervention. I think Larry Summers strong dollar II will turn out to be a disaster, possibly here and now. During strong dollar 1 in the 90’s, Americans and the rest of the world had confidence in the U.S. financial system; the belief that Free Market Capitalism is the best economic system discovered by man was at the core of this belief. Liars can get away with lies when they have credibility. Once this credibility has been lost no one will ever believe the lie again. Credibility in Wall Street and Washington is no longer at the level of the 90’s; too many people know and do not trust government intervention. Larry Summers, Timothy Geithner, Ben Bernanke and the rest of Wall Street are now selling President elect Obama a theory that we can monetize the greatest creation in debt in American history without causing inflation. Without trust this policy is doomed. As investors look at the facts and realize that a 0-2% rate of return on Treasuries is absurd, money will seek better returns. As people lose confidence in the $ they will seek safety. They will quietly begin protecting themselves as they realize this is just one more lie from another administration who believes in deceiving the markets to protect Wall Street. The 15 year social experiment in fooling the markets will blow. As this happens I expect Larry Summers scam based on Gibson’s Paradox will blow; a currency crisis is the logical result of this failure. The charts are saying the $U.S. and U.S. Treasury market are beginning to fail. The strong $ policy has stocks, bonds and the $ rising with Gold and commodities falling. It looks like this is changing. The bottom line is the suppression in Gold, the elevation in Treasury Bonds and the elevation in the $U.S. will all reverse if I am right. It is now a game of musical chairs. Who will be left standing? The question is when? The charts will hold the answer.
Check this out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01…..38;emc=rss
Looks like Obama may mess with the “entitlements” that we all paid for. why they call them “entitlements” when we paid for them is beyond me.
I love, love, love Boner saying that “borrow and spend” has to stop now……….But lets’ not rescind the BUSH tax cut ion the rich
I’ve never understood giving people money from the government and then taking some back. It’s wacky.
Now go to http://www.change.gov and tell Obama!
I was told today that OPEC has slowed production. If so then we’ll see gasoline prices going back up JUST at the time we need them to stay low.
This is another great argument to stop wars that waste resources unnecessarily.
depends on the type of tax cuts: payroll tax cuts for small businesses might help them keep people on instead of “letting them go” (insert image of Sarah Palin smiling as a turkey’s head is sawed clean off).
We definitely have to help them and soon. There’s no “moral hazard” to helping a sinking ship full of people.
Yes, it’s obvious he’s not Liberal. But, he was the best we could manage to get, so we need to push him Left on some issues. Creative solutions to problems, regardless of Left-Right, would probably have the best chance of getting the administration’s attention. As they claim to be pragmatic and problem solvers, then potential solutions have to interest them.