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	<title>Comments on: What Bill Kristol has learned&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782461</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seems to me like the ideal way for Israel to “win” this is to simply back off and claim victory.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me like the ideal way for Israel to “win” this is to simply back off and claim victory.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782305</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kristol using Bush’s GWoT to justify Israels war crimes is despicable.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristol using Bush’s GWoT to justify Israels war crimes is despicable.</p>
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		<title>By: reader</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782303</link>
		<dc:creator>reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Israelis and Palestinians will fight to the death.  They will never get along now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israelis and Palestinians will fight to the death.  They will never get along now.</p>
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		<title>By: gretemike</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782258</link>
		<dc:creator>gretemike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No response yet to the facts contained in post #67. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can’t say I’m too surprised, easier for Israel’s opponents to point at images of dead children, as if this is something that doesn’t normally happen in war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course the fact that Hamas and Islamic Jihad have been literally praying for an Israeli attack is precisely the reason why Israel cannot stop the rocket attacks without overwhelming (i.e. disproportionate) force.  The leadership in Gaza, duly elected by the people of Gaza, have opted to prepare Gaza’s civilian centers as battlegrounds and have deliberately goaded Israel into an attack.  The Israeli’s, instead of walking in as if they were police officers arresting a burglar are instead forced to use disproportionate force against the prepared positions.  No wonder that people like me condemn Gaza and support Israel.  Those dead children in Gaza, that is precisely the thing for which the militants have prayed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Israel is able to overwhelmingly defeat Gaza, there is a chance that the bloodshed can end and real negotiations can take place, similar to the way that Germany and Japan were brought to heel.  If on the other hand well-meaning Western liberals are able to blunt the Israeli attacks, then Hamas and Islamic Jihad will declare victory and prepare for the next round, and Western liberals will therefore ironically and unintentionally have blood on their hands.  Kind of funny when you think about it, in a very unfunny sort of way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No response yet to the facts contained in post #67. </p>
<p>Can’t say I’m too surprised, easier for Israel’s opponents to point at images of dead children, as if this is something that doesn’t normally happen in war.</p>
<p>Of course the fact that Hamas and Islamic Jihad have been literally praying for an Israeli attack is precisely the reason why Israel cannot stop the rocket attacks without overwhelming (i.e. disproportionate) force.  The leadership in Gaza, duly elected by the people of Gaza, have opted to prepare Gaza’s civilian centers as battlegrounds and have deliberately goaded Israel into an attack.  The Israeli’s, instead of walking in as if they were police officers arresting a burglar are instead forced to use disproportionate force against the prepared positions.  No wonder that people like me condemn Gaza and support Israel.  Those dead children in Gaza, that is precisely the thing for which the militants have prayed.</p>
<p>If Israel is able to overwhelmingly defeat Gaza, there is a chance that the bloodshed can end and real negotiations can take place, similar to the way that Germany and Japan were brought to heel.  If on the other hand well-meaning Western liberals are able to blunt the Israeli attacks, then Hamas and Islamic Jihad will declare victory and prepare for the next round, and Western liberals will therefore ironically and unintentionally have blood on their hands.  Kind of funny when you think about it, in a very unfunny sort of way.</p>
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		<title>By: moondancer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782190</link>
		<dc:creator>moondancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is neither a cliche or a generalization to say that Kristol is ALWAYS wrong,  is a poor writer,  and lastly doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is neither a cliche or a generalization to say that Kristol is ALWAYS wrong,  is a poor writer,  and lastly doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782117</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, if there aint’ going to be any rules, let’s get the fight started. Someone count. 1,2,3 go. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;oh, wait!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;shit. fighting is just what i was trying to avoid. better get some of that coffee quick.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if there aint’ going to be any rules, let’s get the fight started. Someone count. 1,2,3 go. </p>
<p>oh, wait!</p>
<p>shit. fighting is just what i was trying to avoid. better get some of that coffee quick.</p>
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		<title>By: bluebutterfly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782115</link>
		<dc:creator>bluebutterfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;an apt description..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an apt description..</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782106</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;rules, in a knife fight?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Butch Cassidy)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rules, in a knife fight?</p>
<p>(Butch Cassidy)</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782105</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lol. well, gotta admire that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;let’s just leave it.  shouldn’t have brought it up…. probably a breach of fdl rules or something too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. well, gotta admire that.</p>
<p>let’s just leave it.  shouldn’t have brought it up…. probably a breach of fdl rules or something too.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/what-bill-kristol-has-learned/#comment-1782104</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I make no promises I can’t keep.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I make no promises I can’t keep.</p>
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