Comments on: Panetta to Head CIA http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:01:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bluebutterfly http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782935 bluebutterfly Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:58:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782935 <p>After the farce of the 911 Commission, I would say he has no problem with secrecy, lying to the public, cover ups, government corruption, just for starters.</p> After the farce of the 911 Commission, I would say he has no problem with secrecy, lying to the public, cover ups, government corruption, just for starters.

]]> By: james http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782832 james Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:45:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782832 <p>And the men tasked with analyzing the Soviet Union who missed that singular historical moment?</p> <p>Robert Gates and David Cohen. Where are they now?<br /> Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense<br /> David Cohen, Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence, NYPD</p> <p>The Peter (or Pytor) Principle in action</p> And the men tasked with analyzing the Soviet Union who missed that singular historical moment?

Robert Gates and David Cohen. Where are they now?
Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense
David Cohen, Deputy Commissioner for Intelligence, NYPD

The Peter (or Pytor) Principle in action

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782627 selise Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:21:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782627 <p>well thanks. but apples and oranges. we don’t have cheney standing over our shoulder and spending lots of money to feed us nonsense.</p> <p>one of the benefits of being unimportant outsiders is that 1) no one’s life is dependent on us getting it right and 2) no one is going to target us specifically for a propaganda campaign or a political seduction.</p> well thanks. but apples and oranges. we don’t have cheney standing over our shoulder and spending lots of money to feed us nonsense.

one of the benefits of being unimportant outsiders is that 1) no one’s life is dependent on us getting it right and 2) no one is going to target us specifically for a propaganda campaign or a political seduction.

]]> By: reader http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782623 reader Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:20:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782623 <p>JaneWade: oh, that’s interesting! Thanks! Hmmmmm.</p> JaneWade: oh, that’s interesting! Thanks! Hmmmmm.

]]> By: JaneWade http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782620 JaneWade Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:14:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782620 <p>About DiFi, she has long had concerns that Panetta would run against her for governor, a position she has always wanted. Many people in California have tried to draft him to run so there is no love lost here.</p> About DiFi, she has long had concerns that Panetta would run against her for governor, a position she has always wanted. Many people in California have tried to draft him to run so there is no love lost here.

]]> By: lefty27 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782617 lefty27 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:13:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782617 <p>Monterey Institute of Buffoonery. Panetta regularly brings in clowns like Bill O’reilly for our edification.</p> <p>Panetta is no friend of the left.</p> Monterey Institute of Buffoonery. Panetta regularly brings in clowns like Bill O’reilly for our edification.

Panetta is no friend of the left.

]]> By: reader http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782616 reader Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:11:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782616 <p>thanks, JaneWade. That sounds wonderful!</p> <p>cinnamonape: The Chief of Staff sits in on everything with the President. His role is to take meeting information/decisions and turn it into action. That’s what I know/understand anyway.</p> thanks, JaneWade. That sounds wonderful!

cinnamonape: The Chief of Staff sits in on everything with the President. His role is to take meeting information/decisions and turn it into action. That’s what I know/understand anyway.

]]> By: JaneWade http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782611 JaneWade Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:07:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782611 <p>Leon Panetta was my member of congress for many years, during which time I covered him as a public radio reporter. He’s one of the smartest and most astute people I have met. As Congressman he was fully in touch with the district and with constituent needs, resolving sticky and difficult issues with diplomacy and speed. Since he left the White House he has built a wonderful public policy program at Cal State Monterey Bay. As many have said, he is a terrific manager, as evidenced by his time at OBM and as Clinton’s CoS, where he modeled Obama’s no drama style. If you weren’t paying close attention you might not have noticed what a good job he did handling Bill. I’m sure he and Obama will make sure he has the intelligence professionals he needs in his inner circle so he can use his considerable skills and abilities to get the CIA on track and keep it there.</p> Leon Panetta was my member of congress for many years, during which time I covered him as a public radio reporter. He’s one of the smartest and most astute people I have met. As Congressman he was fully in touch with the district and with constituent needs, resolving sticky and difficult issues with diplomacy and speed. Since he left the White House he has built a wonderful public policy program at Cal State Monterey Bay. As many have said, he is a terrific manager, as evidenced by his time at OBM and as Clinton’s CoS, where he modeled Obama’s no drama style. If you weren’t paying close attention you might not have noticed what a good job he did handling Bill. I’m sure he and Obama will make sure he has the intelligence professionals he needs in his inner circle so he can use his considerable skills and abilities to get the CIA on track and keep it there.

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782607 eCAHNomics Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:02:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782607 <p>I like that story!</p> I like that story!

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782606 eCAHNomics Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:01:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/05/panetta-to-head-cia/#comment-1782606 <blockquote><p>that last sentence was a big clue about how much you were overstating your case. *g*</p> </blockquote> <p>I meant it sincerely, no snark or overstatement meant.</p> <p>As evidence, I’d like you to compare your record with the CIA’s on matters that you have both looked into. I’ll bet you were closer to the mark than they were when you differed.</p> <p>Part of it may be methodological. You or someone wrote above that CIA tends to place too much reliance on “secret” information. Why should that be? Shouldn’t secret information be weighed on the same scales as all the other evidence? I’m guessing that’s what you would do. Assess all the evidence, secret or not, by using the same strict criteria.</p>

that last sentence was a big clue about how much you were overstating your case. *g*

I meant it sincerely, no snark or overstatement meant.

As evidence, I’d like you to compare your record with the CIA’s on matters that you have both looked into. I’ll bet you were closer to the mark than they were when you differed.

Part of it may be methodological. You or someone wrote above that CIA tends to place too much reliance on “secret” information. Why should that be? Shouldn’t secret information be weighed on the same scales as all the other evidence? I’m guessing that’s what you would do. Assess all the evidence, secret or not, by using the same strict criteria.

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