I don't know who leaked the fact that Harry Reid contacted Rod Blagojevich to oppose a roster of African American candidates because he considered them "unelectable," but Blago's office confirmed it and it makes Reid look just plain awful.
I don't like "electability" arguments to begin with because they are usually employed to enable the privileged (like Caroline Kennedy, who Reid also supports) and marginalize non-establishment candidates. But in this case, it was just a complete load of bollocks.
As Nate Silver demonstrates, a Rasmussen poll from December 4 put Jesse Jackson Jr. in essentially a three-way tie with Lisa Madigan and Tammy Duckworth within Illinois. But there's more to running a race than name recognition, and as Howie Klein notes, Duckworth was a truly terrible candidate:
What makes Tammy Duckworth, who has never won an election to anything, "electable" and Jesse Jackson, Jr., for example, not electable? Nevada voters have never elected an African-American to any statewide offices but Illinois voters certainly have. In November Jackson won re-election with 89% of the vote, the highest percentage of any Illinois incumbent from either party. IL-02 is about 60% African-American so apparently he has some appeal to non-African-American voters as well. As for Duckworth... what is she aside from a creature of Rahm Emanuel who-- like Emanuel himself-- was used to derail a progressive candidate? (They both won bitter primaries with bundles of cash.)
Unlike Emanuel, though, Duckworth lost her general election race, despite outspending her Republican opponent $4,556,495 to $3,302,702, virtually all of that coming through the good graces of Emanuel, who sacrificed at least 3 viable Democrats around the country so he could funnel DCCC money to Duckworth's useless campaign. But Harry Reid has decided she is viable? Because she's white? A pro-war Emanuel puppet? What the hell is this all about? Has Reid lost his marbles?
Matt Renner's special report for Truthout details what happened in 2006 when Rahm Emanuel, as head of the DCCC, didn't like anti-war candidate Christine Cegelis running in IL-06 so he recruited Duckworth (who didn't live in the district) to run against her. I believe the word "unelectable" was used about Cegelis at the time, too.
Rahm poured tons of money into the race and the Democratic establishment did everything they could to sabotage Cegelis. She still held her own against Duckworth, ultimately losing 40-44. (It would take Ned Lamont's defeat of Joe Lieberman in the CT primary to prove just how wrong Rahm et. al. were about the "unelectability" of anti-war candidates in 2006, thus freeing up Democrats across the country to run successfully against the war and their Republican opponents. But that came too late to help Cegelis.)
As Howie notes, Duckworth ultimately lost the seat to her Republican opponent despite a huge cash advantage (courtesy of the DCCC) largely because people didn't like the fact that she was from out of the district. As Nate says, "The fact of the matter is that Illinoisans have gotten to see an awful lot of Tammy Duckworth, and they simply don't like her all that much."
Tammy Duckworth is the very definition of "unelectable" -- i.e., she couldn't get elected, even with Democratic leadership determined to fill her coffers with cash and jam her into office. Well, you can say one thing for them, they never give up.
In light of Reid's contention that Duckworth was "electable" while Jesse Jackson Jr. wasn't, blogs like Jack & Jill Politics, JammieWearingFool, Blackfive, Open Left, and Field Negro are raising valid questions.
As Markos says, "It's not as if Illinois doesn't have a history of electing African Americans to the Senate."
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Oh, lord help us!
I’m not last here to say Harry Reid sucks.
The real question is whether the Dem-controlled senate will follow the rule of law.
Jane, you are great on this point.
These are damning allegations, if true. Has Harry Reid denied them?
Harry Reid’s actions against Jackson, Davis, and Jones taint him very badly. I’m afraid he’s lost the confidence of the non-racist wing of the Democratic party by making these statements. He needs to recuse himself from any further discussions about the Illinois Senate seat and should strongly consider stepping aside as Majority Leader.
If only. Maybe Senate could elect a totally independent majority leader like, say, Joe Lieberman. /s
Who the hell is paying for Reid’s advisors? Taxpayers, no? How can he be getting such bad advice time after time, when it doesn’t even come out of his own pocket and he can afford the best?
EPU’d from below and still OT: Franken is up by 225 at end of today’s count.
Yea, something about amputee vets make them shitty candidates.
We may get a new POTUS on January 20th,but congress still sucks .
I don’t expect a whole lot of change
To most Democrats, “electable” = able to win elections.
Unfortunately, it looks like “electable” = white, for Harry Reid.
This is very bad.
That is great news. Coleman can’t catch that. Nice.
Why do Republicans hate amputees? /s
Bob in HI
temporarily in S.CA
Yes, I saw some observers up there say the Franken lead is now insurmountable.
http://theuptake.org/
Coleman might not have any standing to drag this out with frivolous lawsuits anymore. Al, you’re good enough, and doggonit, people like you!
Fucking war monger
Well, then he’s gonna love Ken Salazar’s replacement.
Tammy Duckworth is not white, jesus.
Here is my take on this cluster f-*K:
Reid is a damn fool and should be replaced as Majority Leader.
Blago is dangerous as hell and comi-tragedy needs a speedy ending.
The bug should never been authorized. The danger it posed far exceeded any benefit it might have provided.
Let’s face it - Reid is an idiot. He should stay out of this.
Duckworth was born in Bangkok, Thailand, the daughter of Frank Duckworth and Lamai S., a native of Thailand.
It’s time for Reid to find another job for himself.
The Duckworth boondoggle in 06 was a first class embarrassment for the democratic party. Rahm was so heavily invested in her he couldn’t see what the rest of the country did.
And Al Franken going to the Senate is, for me, the best news out of the whole election year. He’s going to be fun to watch!
Cornyn is hell-bent to filibuster seating him. I have long maintained that if they don’t, Franken will stand.
Look you pups. I have been begging for term limits and this would end all this crap, get rid of jerks like reid before they do too much damage, DiFI, Schumer, Even Coleman wouldn’t be coming for a second try.
The problems solved by term limits far outweigh the downside. We have to suffer the insufferable for years on end.
There are plenty of good people who would gladly serve one term at any gov job at that payscale and go back to wherever, where, they can continue to do “good” for the people if so inclined.
PLEASE term limits and lets get rid of these slackers forever.
What more can Coleman do to throw this thing off?
Franken is going to make Cornyn look like an ass. Over and over again. It will be sweet.
Sounds like Max Cleland sour grapes from the heart of the Chambliss Confederacy /g
Happy New Year, bro.
This from MPR:
Can’t agree there. Teddy has done amazing things over his many many years. Bernie Sanders is a gem worth holding on to. There are a handful of others. Institutional memory is very much needed in the halls of government.
Besides, we have term limits. They are called elections. Yes there is an incumbent protection racket. But democracy is spreading rapidly through a series of toobz. We have only begun.
Thanks for staying on this, Jane. It’s just unacceptable that Reid would work behind the scenes to eliminate all of the African-American candidates. Maybe now a push to get Reid to step down as Majority Leader can get some real momentum. Let’s hope this situation is a parallel to the downfall of Trent Lott.
I just can’t get enough of that photo. Harry’s doing a great version of what we call “bird poop lip” in our family. When our kids were younger, we told them not to pout with their lower lip out like that or a bird would fly over and poop on it.
My only complaint about term limits is that we could end up with an entire congress with no experience
If you think congress is ineffective now. a bunch of neophytes won’t do any better!
Back at ya. Everyone has their issues around here :)
Never underestimate the power of Federalist Society sleeper judges to totally maneuver some sort of pretzel logic for a GOP apparatchik to have standing where none would normally exist. Maybe we’ll get a replay of the Supremes’ 14th Amendment bullshit that Coleman would be irreparably damaged as a US Senator if he isn’t given the votes to make him one.
I’m not sure that’s true. Part of the advantage of experience in Congress is knowing how to maneuver through the labyrinth of back-rooming and pulling rank. Imagine if there weren’t rank!
“The rest of the country”? She was running for national office huh?
Let’s not forget Harry’s a Mormon, and we know how Mormons feel about certain minorities (Prop H8, for a recent example). I believe it was not until the late 20th Century that LDS even entertained Blacks as being human enough for membership in the club. Who picked this door mouse’s asshole to speak for the Dems in the Senate? Much as I’d hate to see a Repug replace him (he’s not polling well of late), it might be worth it to just be rid of him.
Dugg right here! Please join me.
Where did you get those shoes?
Before term limits, I’d like to see all election funding be public. Getting the money out of the picture changes things in huge way.
I’d also outlaw the job of lobbyist.
After those two come, term limits are just fine.
one too many “m”’s
Maybe Dancin’ Dave will get to the bottom of all this with inciteful questions and strong followups that cut through Reid’s spin tomorrow on MTP… Or not…
I’d legalize ganja. . .no, I’d make it mandatory.
what up PS?
ooops. Insightful. Incite-full. Insight-full…
Oh, nevahmind…mutter, mutter, mutter.
the rest of the country was ready to move on from touting the war. Ned Lamont opened that door and others saw it work. Rahm was blind to it and picked his candidates accordingly. Duckworth just got the most focus and money from him but he wasted a lot on other candidates too.
Reid’s on the guest list for tomorrow’s Meet the Press…along with Dancin’ Dave’s panel of thousands.
Me? I’m diggin’ outa two feet of “partly cloudy”…once the wind dies down.
North Dakota weather…keeps the riff-raff out. Hence Dick Armey’s move to Texas.
State legislatures with term limits end up being railroaded by corporate lobbyists. For a prime example, see California, where corporations run Sacramento.
How do Mormons feel about Asians, as in Tammy Duckworth?
That’s why I haven’t moved there.
Lots of national blogosphere investment in her very able, and in-district resident, progressive opponent in the primary. Christine Cegelis’s defeat at the hands of Rahm left a bad taste for many that had little to do with Tammy Duckworth’s qualifications, whatever they may be.
They like em if they are Samoan and can play D-tackle.
Cegalis was the choice of the District. She had organized a very successful Grassroots Campaign two years before and damn near beat Henry Hyde, the incumbent for that seat, scoring impressive numbers. With a modicum of support she would have prevailed! Progressives everywhere (Like your’s truly) were well & truly pissed off by Rahm’s actions and stopped giving to the DCCC forever afterward. It has nothing to do with the fact that she was a veteran who served and sacrificed courageously, it all has everything to do with Rahm bring in an out of District Candidate and shoving aside a Progressive who had earned the shot without anything from the DCCC the prior election!
Well, are we going to demonize her or not? Let’s get our stories straight. “Tout the war” indeed.
I don’t get it, but don’t feel obliged to explain.
You’ll have to come to Austin to get that Coke!
Okay by me.
BTW, great game by the Dawgs.
Excellent!
They have quite a presence in Hawaii.
Still, Jesse Jackson jr. is completely toxic from being mentioned in Blago’s arrest statement. Roland Burris, no matter how good he may have once been, has been thoroughly discredited by his involvment with Blago. Danny Davis and Bobby Rush also have the stink.
Illinois truly needs to appoint a ”non-politician”. Both political parties have been so compromised. There are numerous buisiness and academic leaders in Chicago (of all races) that should be considered.
The Mormoms have big operations in the Islands, (I know, technically it’s not asia). BYU has tons of players from there, often really big linemen. It was, like, a joke.
Decent second half.
All the really huge Sumo wrestlers any more are Samoan…
Sisters and brothers, tomorrow I must endure yet another nail-biting, win-lose-win-lose Vikings game. Anyone rooting for those dudes besides me? In spite of everything (Adrian Peterson notwithstanding).
So Reid’s preferences could still be called racist even it Duckworth’s not white? He’s only against blacks? Seems strange. So much of white racism is against anyone who isn’t white, not usually distinguishing between different kinds of non-white.
Uhm, the problem here is that Harry was torpedoing them before the Blago crap hit the fan. There was no stink yet.
figgers
I knew it was a joke, just not one I would understand. Which is why I said you didn’t have to explain. But thanks anyhow. Never know when that random bit of info will come in handy. *g*
It’s the shotgun approach of accusations. Course there are more Hawaiians in Nevada than in Hawaii.
Excuse me but I was a pretty decent student in math and arithmetic. If Franken is ahead by over 200 and there are 190 votes to count why is there still contention as to who is going to be the next senator from MN. WTF am I missing here. Somebody please can I stop banging my head into the desk?
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No, sir, you cannot. It’s the new math.
Thready’s dead
that’s what I said
Gosh after the grape juice the other night now this you’re mean. *g*
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Any of the political experts here have ideas for who would be a good replacement for Reid?
A liberal, progressive and effective one?
A post-partisan Obama-type (but one as effective as possible under that paradigm)?
A good old fashioned LBJ type who squeezed balls and kicked ass and bahsed heads and got things done?
WHere , do I owe ya a drink?
399 hrs & 24 min
webb’s 2 out of 3
Nah, just trying to sound tough so I’ll fit in. Difficult for a wuss! *g* Tipping my glass of, ummm, Sprite, actually. Here’s to ya!
I just Don’t know how Obama can work with this guy. Illinois has had 2 African American Senators now I’m sure we could elect a third.
I was commenting on the seeming lull in posts. (From “Freddie’s Dead, Superfly, Curtis Mayflield).
New post—>>
Thanks. Webb might be good. But my list was intended to be connected by ‘or’? I am not sure that all three of those criteria are compatible. I would take one of the three, if the person were effective.
How about a moderate (though not gimmicky “post-partisan” moderate) but effective leader?
Anybody who will go after Reid soon?
Cox, Sucker up next.
Scarecrow and I were trying to figure that out yesterday. It’s a pretty sorry list. best we could come up with is Pat Leahy or the other Reed—Jack from RI (former Army Ranger). The two of them at least have progressive voting records and some institutional seniority.
Other suggestions welcomed.
The FDL pictures make Reid look like a turtle. But not a happy go lucky smiley face turtle like Phil Gram. Rather a sad and oppressed turtle that just had its fish, or snail, or gob of delicious goo, stolen.
Reid wasn’t talking with Blago about the taint on JJJ due to being mentioned in the tapes; that hadn’t come out yet. The fact that Reid disqualified three African-American officeholders as being ‘unelectable’ is shocking.
Have the African American blogs and black talk radio started to pick up on Reid being a Mormon, I wonder?
Thanks. I will read up on those two.
Not Mormon anti-white racism; it is specifically against blacks.
I still like Leahy. At least he wouldn’t be a mealy-mouthed do-nothing.
1. Term limits for the U.S. House and Senate would require a constitutional amendment. Ain’t gonna happen.
2. Some states have term limits for state and local offices. Is there any evidence that they are better governed than states that do not? If you know of any such evidence I would appreciate the information.
I would like to imagine that in Reid’s mind it truly was a simple matter of the electoral calculus of electability as he perceived it. Of course, I have no insight as to his perceptions, but I do know that racism comes in many forms and degrees of nuance.
I like Webb and have been impressed by Sherrod Brown as well as a couple of others.
399 hrs & 17 min
If Cheney thought enough of Leahy to tell him to F* himself, he has to be a contender.
I know there is residual Boxer dislike from RGJoe’s contest, but she is a liberal. And a fighter.
Neither has been in the senate nearly long enough to have earned the office.
Leahy is one of my favorites but I feel that we need his cajones in the judiciary.
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Somehow I don’t see the leadership of both the house and the senate coming from CA. It’s a bit of overkill.
I haven’t even made any New Year’s resolutions. It seemed hopeless, what with all the Holiday food debauchery. Held steady until Christmas day, then, something happened… Then come New Years, there was this punch, and sparkling wine…
So, now that I am getting a normal appetite back, one late resolution is not to get too worked up by all these inside baseball political stories, and try to stick to what I think are fundamentals.
So, I don’t think Reid is an effective majority leader in the Senate, and if some of these wild tales about Reid turn out to be true, then I will add them to the evidence. I guess they are true. But it’s like a guy who tries to hand a kick-me sign on his back, and it gets turned around to frontwise by mistake, and the response is even more damaging that one first imagine. Whether Reid is sensible to the consequences, or there is some deep method on his part, I do not know but am growing doubtful.
I find it hard to believe this story. Or even weirder, the one that had Reid even considering allowing Coleman to keep his Senate voting rights in the new congress. But they could be true.
I think with some of these Senate seat machinations, we are getting more evidence that we are living in a “fin de siècle” age. (I hope the little accent thingee shows up correctly -I have to look things like that up).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_de_siecle
(Not a very exciting article, I expected more sex-money-luxury-outrageous entitlement decadence p0rn and maybe even pix in that article, but no dice).
What about John Kerry for Majority Leader?
Sounds like old fart rules.
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Hmmm. How likely is that to happen?
I realize that Whitehouse is new to that committee but I see him rising fast. I’d rather see Schumer busting chops in Judiciary than as majority leader. Ergo Leahy. But that’s just my opinion.
But we are big, powerful, and egotistical!
Seriously, you are right. It’s bad enough that Miller & Waxman are also so powerful. Pelosi’s got quite a little CA mafia. I bet there’s resentment. Well, I know there is - I read emptywheel.
Too French and not enough military honors. *g*
What about Ron Wyden?
Please not Schumer! Somebody mean and nasty who really wants McConnell’s blood! Well, not literally, but you get my drift…
He’s not enough of a fighter for me—at least he sure didn’t show it in ‘04.
No, I meant keep Schumer in Judiciary and let Leahy take charge of the senate. That’s where I was going with that.
I’m amazed that anybody here finds Reid’s actions shocking or even surprising. This latest absurdity is 100% consistent with everything he’s ever done as leader. The guy is consistently just horrible!
If progressives ever want to accomplish major changes in the way Congress does business, we’ve got to build a movement to do away with the seniority system. Period.
Hey, anyone know what the majority leader job description looks like?
I love the CA delegations running everything. We may need a federal bailout soon. And a big one. And a quick one. I think Californians need to get behind that idea.
I am asking around about who will take my Arny-bucks, assuming my gig still exists. Thank goodness I don’t do all my work for the state.
Nobody has mentioned Feingold - I like him very much.
I mentioned him yesterday. The silence was . . . deep.
Dorgan and whitehouse would also be good
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I don’t know if he has the ability to herd the dem cats. He had lots of trouble rounding up votes for things he cared about. That makes him someone we respect in that he doesn’t run with the pack, but not necessarily the right guy to lead.
As is the improbability. They could never let it happen, as their game would be up.
Gee, I wonder why?
Feingold has an unusually deep respect for any incumbent president’s discretion in choosing judicial nominees — one I do not share.
O.T.
Kos has a message for Bill O.
Priceless.
Unfortunately, term limits have some serious side effects, one of which is that they make lobbyists much more powerful, since they are there much longer than the lawmakers, know the turf, make newcomers beholden to them, will suggest and ram through legislation through friendlies, and otherwise run the town. I would be against term limits until something is done about lobbyist influence.
I dont’ see how ANYONE could be worse than Reid.
If they keep counting those votes in MN the inevitable certification will be filibuster proof!
399 hrs!!!!!! yeah baby!!!!
This reeks of Rahm enhancement.
If they keep counting those votes in MN, the incumbents will all have died of old age.
Dr. Murphy is upstairs!
Let’s Tour America’s Toxic Waste: What’s In Your Neigborhood?
Umm, okay, the silence about Feingold was preferable. *g* I hate it when I get caught being superficial. What’s that you say? Oh.
What is with this will be stuff? Franken is past 505 + 1 - check and mate compadre
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lol barbara!
Franken WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah!!!!!!!!!
You get big props for not using that stupid ass “crickets”!
Actually, that’s a huge milestone … that’s about (exactly?) 2x the original lead that Coleman had, si?
I think way, way back in the beginning, Coleman was up by about 400, but even my long term memory is fading…
That should have been 50% + 1 - all that is necessary to win
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at one point it seemed to settle on Coleman being up 249 maybe … that’s the number that sticks in my head … and then the counting started.
i declare Al Franken to be the new junior Senator from MN!!!!
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Step right over here, Senator Franken and take your oath to uphold the Constitution and help us get this country back on track!!!!
Breaking: Cheney administers oath to Franken, earthy’s crust melts!
DVR-worthy.
Those two dark spheres under Reid’s chin are Chin Nuts. That what you get when you have a Lobbyist’s dinkey in your mouth.
Remove Pelosi?
My observations from a while back in Salt Lake City - They seem to really like Tongans (Hunter S. Thompson aside) and have converted a lot of them. It’s really the threads of the Confederate legacy that seem to be behind some of the Mormon skin color coding. Someone needs to fully research this all.
Geez, is Harry Reid a hand puppet of Rahm Emanuel’s? BTW, nice to know the blogs are getting a taste for what Rahm Emanuel really is.
and then, let us consider ambassadorial appointments.
a large number of these are for sale. when they involve non-foreign service individuals, they are always for sale.
the price for these appointments is discussed. over telephones. are those discussions somehow different from blagojevich’s discussions?
i can think of many individuals who contributed extravagantly to a political party and became appointed as ambassadors[and were approved by the senate?].
how about this one? keith brown. an oil man. major contributor to the reptillian party. his first post was lesotho.
he didn’t like that post, very much. so he kept giving. eventually, he won a prize ambassadorial posting. one of those civilized scandinavian countries. denmark? where he may have been engaged in promulgating those incendiary cartoons of the prophet mohammed.
oh,i might have gotten the keith brown story inaccurately. but i don’t think so. keith was a major reptillian. and many ambassadorships are for sale.
let us never fail to recall one of george walker bush’es first ambassadorial appointments. william farish. to the court of st james.
for another time, perhaps you can discern that farish-bush relationship?