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		<title>By: jss9</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780981</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Proportionally, in US population terms, imagine 50,000 people dying in the world trade center. Imagine over 100,000 injured. Gaza has 1.5 million Palestinians with 460 deaths and 2,000+ injured. I see that mass punishment is alive and well.” -Albinolion1&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This makes no sense. Thats a lot more people then the world trade center and a lot less deaths/injuries. The ratio is much greater for the people present in the world trade center and those who died there as apposed to the people living in Gaza and those killed or wounded.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;—————–&lt;br /&gt;
And for anyone saying that the Israelis torture and mistreat prisoners what happens to those captured by Islamic Extremists..? I think beheading and public executions are pretty brutal compared to a terrorist getting interrogated. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Everyone is so quick to judge Israel and very quick to ignore the acts of Islamic terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbolah who claim the lives of hundreds and thousands.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Proportionally, in US population terms, imagine 50,000 people dying in the world trade center. Imagine over 100,000 injured. Gaza has 1.5 million Palestinians with 460 deaths and 2,000+ injured. I see that mass punishment is alive and well.” -Albinolion1</p>
<p>This makes no sense. Thats a lot more people then the world trade center and a lot less deaths/injuries. The ratio is much greater for the people present in the world trade center and those who died there as apposed to the people living in Gaza and those killed or wounded.</p>
<p>—————–<br />
And for anyone saying that the Israelis torture and mistreat prisoners what happens to those captured by Islamic Extremists..? I think beheading and public executions are pretty brutal compared to a terrorist getting interrogated. </p>
<p>Everyone is so quick to judge Israel and very quick to ignore the acts of Islamic terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbolah who claim the lives of hundreds and thousands.</p>
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		<title>By: jss9</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780972</link>
		<dc:creator>jss9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From what I can see from most of your responses you all are anti-Israel. This means it’ll be hard to argue any points, but I’ll try anyway. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@ Albinolion1: Your analogy makes absolutely no sense… Here’s a better one: If you are an American how would you like rockets from an Indian Reservation bombarding your town… or suicide bombers being armed in an Indian Reservation blowing up nightclubs and malls, killing hundreds of your neighbors. So when the US Army goes into the Indian Reservations and there are a few civilian casualties I’m sure no one would even say a word. This also goes for anyone who’s British. Except now replace the Indian Reservation with the IRA in Ireland. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I also find it amazing how everyone here is all about the suffering and fear of the Palestinians. How about you people go to Israel and stay in the areas under Hamas bombardment. How about you go to the market, or a nightclub, or a mall; always thinking maybe an explosion is gonna rip through my body. Why don’t you go live in Israel watching your friends and neighbors get murdered and then when there are some civilian casualties in a military operation see if you even think twice about it…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can see from most of your responses you all are anti-Israel. This means it’ll be hard to argue any points, but I’ll try anyway. </p>
<p>@ Albinolion1: Your analogy makes absolutely no sense… Here’s a better one: If you are an American how would you like rockets from an Indian Reservation bombarding your town… or suicide bombers being armed in an Indian Reservation blowing up nightclubs and malls, killing hundreds of your neighbors. So when the US Army goes into the Indian Reservations and there are a few civilian casualties I’m sure no one would even say a word. This also goes for anyone who’s British. Except now replace the Indian Reservation with the IRA in Ireland. </p>
<p>I also find it amazing how everyone here is all about the suffering and fear of the Palestinians. How about you people go to Israel and stay in the areas under Hamas bombardment. How about you go to the market, or a nightclub, or a mall; always thinking maybe an explosion is gonna rip through my body. Why don’t you go live in Israel watching your friends and neighbors get murdered and then when there are some civilian casualties in a military operation see if you even think twice about it…</p>
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		<title>By: albinolion1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780256</link>
		<dc:creator>albinolion1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;History will remember the plight of the Palestinians as the new holocaust and the world stood silent.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Proportionally, in US population terms, imagine 50,000 people dying in the world trade center.  Imagine over 100,000 injured.  Gaza has 1.5 million Palestinians with 460 deaths and 2,000+ injured.  I see that mass punishment is alive and well.  I hear people say, but they hide amongst the civilian population.  Where will they go?  Gaza is not a country with free borders.  It is a concentration camp whose borders are tightly controlled by Israel.  They have had a full embargo for 2 years because of Israel’s anger with the democratically elected, UN observed elections bringing in Hamas.  A 2 year embargo!  No medicines, little food.   In America you have the right to bear arms and if someone is caught on your property you have the right to shoot.  Israel is still in active occupation of Palestinian land.  ACTIVE meaning settlers are swallowing more and more of it daily.  Set aside the brain washing of the Arab = Muslim = Terrorist = Hamas equation that has been continuously fed to you.  Replace the word Palestinian with American and the word Israeli with Great Britain and set the clock back….people have the right to defend their land, their people and live freely.  Israel cannot be in contradiction to several UN security council resolutions, flaunt international law, torture, kill and occupy without having those living in their homes defend their property.  A dog would do the same…what about fellow humans?  Wake up people….now is the time to register where you stand on this issue because History will out the truth.  This is not a ‘debate’ with problems on ‘both sides’.  This is a current human tragedy that you are being lied about daily.  Thank Goodness for the internet and free information, I ask all of you to search you tube videos for ‘occupation 101′ or other videos by Palestinians in the territories.  Hear it from them, we do not need Israelis nor CNN to be our spokespeople, we have a voice…look it up if you dare and educate yourselves so that when your children ask you years from now ‘how could you let this happen?’ you will have an answer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History will remember the plight of the Palestinians as the new holocaust and the world stood silent.  </p>
<p>Proportionally, in US population terms, imagine 50,000 people dying in the world trade center.  Imagine over 100,000 injured.  Gaza has 1.5 million Palestinians with 460 deaths and 2,000+ injured.  I see that mass punishment is alive and well.  I hear people say, but they hide amongst the civilian population.  Where will they go?  Gaza is not a country with free borders.  It is a concentration camp whose borders are tightly controlled by Israel.  They have had a full embargo for 2 years because of Israel’s anger with the democratically elected, UN observed elections bringing in Hamas.  A 2 year embargo!  No medicines, little food.   In America you have the right to bear arms and if someone is caught on your property you have the right to shoot.  Israel is still in active occupation of Palestinian land.  ACTIVE meaning settlers are swallowing more and more of it daily.  Set aside the brain washing of the Arab = Muslim = Terrorist = Hamas equation that has been continuously fed to you.  Replace the word Palestinian with American and the word Israeli with Great Britain and set the clock back….people have the right to defend their land, their people and live freely.  Israel cannot be in contradiction to several UN security council resolutions, flaunt international law, torture, kill and occupy without having those living in their homes defend their property.  A dog would do the same…what about fellow humans?  Wake up people….now is the time to register where you stand on this issue because History will out the truth.  This is not a ‘debate’ with problems on ‘both sides’.  This is a current human tragedy that you are being lied about daily.  Thank Goodness for the internet and free information, I ask all of you to search you tube videos for ‘occupation 101′ or other videos by Palestinians in the territories.  Hear it from them, we do not need Israelis nor CNN to be our spokespeople, we have a voice…look it up if you dare and educate yourselves so that when your children ask you years from now ‘how could you let this happen?’ you will have an answer.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780140</link>
		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;then used the cluster bomb name as an afterthought when it brought dead air for a minute. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now that is a profound double entrende.  The cluster bomb does bring “dead” air.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;but once it was out, they kept going with it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah.  That seems to be our lurching, corrupt government. Be horrifyingly sociopathic, and if not tackled and brought down keep on pushing for your own toxic touchdown.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;i keep wondering, if we give them the money, and they buy the weapons from us, doesn’t that mean WE are buying them?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We give Israel $3 billion a year for “self defense” weaponry.  “Pre-emptive self defense” I suppose the truthiness squad will call it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>then used the cluster bomb name as an afterthought when it brought dead air for a minute. </p>
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<p>Now that is a profound double entrende.  The cluster bomb does bring “dead” air.</p>
<blockquote><p>but once it was out, they kept going with it.</p>
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<p>Yeah.  That seems to be our lurching, corrupt government. Be horrifyingly sociopathic, and if not tackled and brought down keep on pushing for your own toxic touchdown.</p>
<blockquote><p>i keep wondering, if we give them the money, and they buy the weapons from us, doesn’t that mean WE are buying them?</p>
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<p>We give Israel $3 billion a year for “self defense” weaponry.  “Pre-emptive self defense” I suppose the truthiness squad will call it.</p>
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		<title>By: libbyliberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780135</link>
		<dc:creator>libbyliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If God had only saved the world from Bush’s infernal “gut”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If God had only saved the world from Bush’s infernal “gut”.</p>
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		<title>By: TheKenoshaKid</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780123</link>
		<dc:creator>TheKenoshaKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s very well said. But if you have a look at the rest of the Hamas Charter, you can see that these ideas are not only crazy but dangerous.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s very well said. But if you have a look at the rest of the Hamas Charter, you can see that these ideas are not only crazy but dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780114</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;if a death sentence is to be acceptable punishment for crazy ideas the list of people who qualify will be long indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if a death sentence is to be acceptable punishment for crazy ideas the list of people who qualify will be long indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780112</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9611806&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tens of thousands of people in European cities have been protesting Israel’s military offensive in Gaza.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/02/AR2009010200706.html?wprss=rss_world&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hamas Provoked Attacks, Bush Says&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1052315.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EU presidency: Israel ground op in Gaza ‘defensive not offensive’&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9611806" rel="nofollow">Tens of thousands of people in European cities have been protesting Israel’s military offensive in Gaza.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/02/AR2009010200706.html?wprss=rss_world" rel="nofollow">Hamas Provoked Attacks, Bush Says</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1052315.html" rel="nofollow">EU presidency: Israel ground op in Gaza ‘defensive not offensive’</a></p>
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		<title>By: oldswede</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780110</link>
		<dc:creator>oldswede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course the Bush is encouraging the Israelis. He is running out of time to get Armageddon started. No rapture for him if he fails.&lt;br /&gt;
oldswede&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the Bush is encouraging the Israelis. He is running out of time to get Armageddon started. No rapture for him if he fails.<br />
oldswede</p>
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		<title>By: TheKenoshaKid</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/03/gaza-ground-invasion/#comment-1780101</link>
		<dc:creator>TheKenoshaKid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We got the Likud Party platform above, I was showing the other side of the coin. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And here’s my source:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Palestine Center’s purpose is to bring together people and resources within the American and Palestinian communities to educate about Palestine and the Palestinian people’s ongoing quest for sovereignty on their land, civil and political rights and an end to Israeli occupation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hamas Charter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not exactly Israeli propaganda.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got the Likud Party platform above, I was showing the other side of the coin. </p>
<p>And here’s my source:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Palestine Center’s purpose is to bring together people and resources within the American and Palestinian communities to educate about Palestine and the Palestinian people’s ongoing quest for sovereignty on their land, civil and political rights and an end to Israeli occupation.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html" rel="nofollow">Hamas Charter</a></p>
<p>Not exactly Israeli propaganda.</p>
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