Gee…we might be distant cousins. My family is NC also and I was named after a Carroll’s marriage into in our family. I have 21 first cousins and 63 second cousins and can’t even keep up with all the third cousins now..so anything is possible.

[My paternal g/grandmother was Sarah Carroll (b) 1819 NC.]

That ‘concern troll’ the other day scoffed at the idea that oil was a factor in dividing up the ME after WWII. I was 14 years old when Israel became a state. Oil was a big deal all through WWII. To see if my memory was correct I Googled: FDR, Churchill, oil, 1948. Got excerpts from this book, stated to be taken mostly from documents. Oil and “the rising threat of Russia” both entered into the talks between Churchill and FDR and FDR and King Ibn Saud back in 1943. I ordered the book.

Today I Googled the author’s name and find that he is a durn neocon! Oh well, I’ll study the parts of the book taken from the documents.

Got an opinion about this book?

We have our capitalist criminals, our war profiteers,our influence peddlers…all enabled by a corrupt congress.
But nothing has ever been more deadly to America than the Israeli corruption of the US government and in particular of American principles.

How has this happened?…Money and politics and government by,for and of the “parties”. We choose sides and worship our parties now like an abused child clings to it’s parental absuer.

For the niche votes and campaign contributions of the jewish community, mostly from a select group of right wing wealthy jews, congress will allow Israel to do anything, a genocide, a war crime, probably even finally a ‘transfer’ of the Palestine population.

Think about that. For 30 pieces of silver you can buy a slaughter, a war, anything you want from the US congress and then watch them tell the American public how noble and righteous is their support of whatever murder they sign off on. They will even tell you that you are too stupid to understand and it’s too complicated for your little minds and how dare you believe your own lying eyes…that is if they even bother to answer the public, which they usually don’t.

How do I know the US is wrong on Israel and all of this is due to the undue influence of brain washed jews and their monied right wing zionist leaders? How do I know that Israel is not a necessary ally ,is of no value at all to the US and is in fact a libility and that domestic political advantages in pandering to the pro Israel jews is all the dictates the US support of Israel?

Because I have been thru every single page of every single document of every single Presidential Library since Truman that mentions Israel. it’s all there, in black and white in the private and sometimes public papers and reports and correspondence of all the past presidents. There was not a single one that didn’t talk about the fact that jewish pressure and politics was the sole factor in suppporting Israel,not realism, not principles or US interest.

Eisenhower put it best:

http://www.eisenhowermemorial……s/2063.cfm

“As we began to uncover evidence that something was building up in Israel, we demanded pledges from Ben-Gurion that he would keep the peace.10
We realized that he might think he could take advantage of this country because of the approaching election and because of the importance that so many politicians in the past have attached to our Jewish vote.

I gave strict orders to the State Department that they should inform Israel that we would handle our affairs exactly as though we didn’t have a Jew in America. The welfare and best interests of our own country were to be the sole criteria on which we operated.11

And that is how it should be…but it isn’t. My family has been American for 390 years but I am so absolutely and totally ashamed and disgusted with it and all of us in this country. We are now such cowards and sheep we don’t deserve the country our ancestors fought and died for. Burn congress to the ground and start over or give up the name America.

Instead, Obama must face the hard choices of either alienating traditional liberal pro-Israel supporters, or the powerful anti-Israeli fringe groups that have galvanized much of the Obama candidacy, here and abroad. UNing an asymmetrical war with terrorists with ostensible blame for both sides as equally culpable won’t do either. The Middle East almost by definition requires an American President to be disliked as much as he is deemed necessary.

Powerful and fringy! For an entertaining takedown of Hanson see The War Nerd.