Anyone wishing to argue that Bush is not a cretin faces rather an uphill struggle, in that whenever the man goes out in public, he acts like a cretin. Another significant obstacle would be that chief among his major accomplishments as a president are fucking up a war and destroying the economy. On top of that, at least 70% of the country thinks he’s a cretin and has felt this way for quite some time. This is a problem because for many politicians, getting people to like you and not think you’re a cretin is an important part of the gig.
But that doesn’t mean nobody will try to make believe that George W. Bush is "cool" and to be admired. Mere objective reality has never been much of a consideration for many of the people tempted to advance such a thesis before, after all. Here for instance is Ben Feller of the AP, pretending that Bush is Cool on the grounds that he gives people idiotic nicknames and once "even gave the German chancellor an impromptu, perhaps unwelcome [!] neck rub." And there’s more! He’s also petulant, bullying, and authoritarian! Now don’t you love him just a tiny bit more?
Digby had much the same take on this piece, but have we perhaps been led astray by some sort of subtle liberal bias in this MSM pro-Bush puff piece? It is not only possible, but probable. Let us therefore turn to this NRO piece by Byron York, a man of such bottomless compassion that he has designed his hair to be a wildlife refuge for homeless squirrels:
the president’s political fortunes haven’t affected the intense loyalty that those who know him best feel for him. The people who have worked with George W. Bush in the White House for many of these past eight years have seen a different man from the one reflected in so much negative press coverage. And as they prepare to leave on January 20, their feelings for him are, if anything, stronger than when they arrived.
Will the last cult members to leave the White House please turn out the lights? But as far as ridiculous apologias go, you can’t touch this:
Nonetheless, most [people who owe their jobs to Bush] anticipate that history will assess George W. Bush more favorably than today’s media and polls — provided history isn’t skewed by agenda-driven scholarship.
Which just goes to show that the signature achievement of the Bush administration lies in the field of self-deluded idiocy.
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Dubya will be lucky if history doesn’t run him out of town on a rail, laughing hysterically at him the whole time.
Could Bush being the worst President in our history be related to his being a cretin?
Everyone is embarrassed by George W. Bush. Embarrassed or pissed. We are pissed, but Laura, cabinet folks, MSM lackeys, his kids…embarrassed.
Then, there’s the criminal element forthcoming.
Cause and effect? What a novel idea. Stupid people make stupid decisions and do stupid things? Who would ever have thought of such a thing.
Awwww, didja hafta give ‘em one last thing ta fuck up?
Never have kneepads been more overworked.
Laugh-til-you-cry disturbing piece.
Evening Thers!
It’s a theory!
Probably burn the place down in the process. Might even take out a large part of DC.
Hadley and Bolten said recently in an interview that Bush really had been the Decidarian in Chief which apparently would put this f*ck up at his doorstep. Of course they actually said was that Cheney wasn’t pulling his strings which would still leave open the possibility of a sockpuppet kind of thing which would also explain that pinched look so often seen on Bush’s face.
History will judge.
Hee hee.
Q. How many Bush appointees does it takes to unscrew a lightbulb?
A. Stupid Q. If Bush appointees were at all capable of unscrewing anything, the country wouldn’t be in the shitter! Ha ha! Ha. Ha.
Ha.
Nuts…
No one could have predicted. At least none of the cretins could.
I have to agree with Condi on this one. It was not one of the worst. It was the worst, by lightyears.
GWB has proven that “anybody can be president of the United States”.
Don’t give up yer day job. *g*
Remember the “Roadmap to Peace”? Great times!
Work wife and Texas wife can enable all they want, the Rich truth cannot be denied.
As voted by a large majority of presidential historians fairly recently.
He has also proved that you really don’t want “just anybody” to actually be president.
A cretin? Thers, what happened to your famed civility?
I would state that Bush is despicable, but I am under a gag order imposed at the request of the Daffy Duck Anti-Defamation League.
What’s Condi gonna do in, oh, say 17 days? I heard somewhere seems like eons ago that Stanford didn’t want her back. Can’t imagine why not. Mayhaps a high priced
hookerlobbyist for Chevron?Absolutely the worst.
And further in the revisionist history dept, Still-a-Dick Chee-knee is Schieffer’s guest on Face tomorrow. Here’s a peachy face from the website.
When speaking of G. W. Bush, “cretin” is a compliment.
Yup, but it gives me the heebie jeebies to even think that Condi and/or Laura would…..
or an upgrade.
I hope Stanford takes her back. There’s only so much harm she can cause there.
Doesn’t surprise me about Stanford. What does surprise me is the the University of Denver hasn’t revoked her Ph.D. yet. UCLA did it to Castaneda.
Ha!
I’ve occasionally wondered about how I’d do at standup. The requisite skills don’t seem to be all that different from teaching, in many ways.
not done yet:
Both are forms of performance art.
d-i-v-o-r-c-e
Digg it right now!
Carlos? For writing “The Teachings of Don Juan?”
The Hoover Institution sure does attract some first-rate brains. Which is good, for zombies.
And who are you again?
SD Chargers win in OT
This is a replay of 2006 and Lebanon.
Frank Rich has been spot-on for years now.
His book from a year or so ago, “The Greatest Story Ever Sold” is a great read and the definitive history on the WPE.
(Worst.Prez.Evah)
Well history is told by thems that write the books and Dubya’s gonna have an entire liebary to tell his story.
For writing a work of creative nonfiction, which purported to be actual ethnography, by wholesale mining of the ethnographic literature. Oddly enough, pretty much everything in Don Juan, which was his dissertation, is real and true. It just doesn’t all go together and absolutely none of it has anything to do with the actual Yacqui Indians.
Not even zombies would have those brains. Waaaay to rancid.
You’re off-topic and I find that VERY disrespectful, you hatless freak!
The only way anything about Gaza will get through the UN is via the entire General Assembly. Then both the US and Israel will ignore them and the UN will slink back under its rock.
About 200 for Palestine protest at BayWalk tonight. 2, maybe 3, local TV news crews. Waiting for the online clips.
” provided history isn’t skewed by agenda-driven scholarship”
I don’t know about any agenda (except perhaps telling the truth), but I suspect the Cretinian Theory will be wildly popular among historians of this era…
egregious!
Help, the boys a fightin’ again
;~P
That was one of the questions I had when I first read it. It is subtitled “a Yaqui way of knowledge” but there’s really nothing in it about the Yaqui.
deja vu all over again. even one of the signs used at yesterday’s local protest was a left over from 2006.
emphazis on the lie….
that’s great!
“He has also proved that you really don’t want “just anybody” to actually be president”
I find this kind of comparison to be unfair and insulting to the anybodys of America…most of whom could have done a much better job
Bush will go down in history as someone like Nero or Caligula or Ethelred the Unready.
While this is 169 percent true, how about something we don’t know now?
I’ll have you know I bought a new hat.
I just don’t wear it much because it itches.
From the new Frank Rich column, which Prairie Sunshine makes reference to in this Oxdown diary.
How do you know he’s hatless?
I can’t believe no one is standing up for the poor, voiceless doorknobs. I have plenty in my house and they serve a highly useful function – they let me in and out of rooms while keeping cats on one side of the door. Some are decorative, vintage doorknobs and are a pleasure to view. Bush, as far as i can ascertain, serves no useful purpose, and i for one have no pleasure in viewing him.
IMHO, Bush is more in the category of what gets left behind when inconsiderate jerks walk their dogs in my neighborhood and don’t pick up after ‘em.
Jest sayin. But otherwise, yet another excellent Thersday Night Post! I sure am glad Thersday Night happens twice a week.
Because I stole his hat.
Philadelphia got in our demonstration over the Israel-Gaza conflict just hours before the ground offensive began.
He doesn’t quite rise to Vlad the Impaler standards, but does aspire to Ivan the Terrible.
i actually don’t hold it against bush that he’s a cretin.
it’s his greed and cruelty that i most object to.
A cult classic among hippies and stoners for 40 years and absolute, total rubbish. Castaneda mined the ethnographic literature for shamanic, witchcraft, sorcery, and visionary beliefs and practices and then pieced it all together. Another anthropology prof (not on the committee) whoi was an expert on the Yaqui actually did the digging and was able to cite where he got all of it. There was even an article in the American Anthropologist about it, complete with citations to all the sources of his info. Not that Carlos gave a shit, since he had already made a fortune off the Don Juan franchise by that point. What did he have, 4-5 books total? All the same kind of crap.
What? You never heard of Bartholomew?
Both Vlad and Ivan were effective leaders, whatever we may think of their methods and aims.
Yes, but if he weren’t such a cretin, he would have surrounded himself with non-cretins.
Fair enough. I’m sure a doorknob would have done a better job…
It is a hard question which way we would have been more fucked.
Not me, I was laughing my ass off reading Brautigan’s Trout Fishing in America in 1971 or 1972.
If I’m not mistaken, after Castaneda died his partner admitted it had all been rubbish. Don’t know if you’re familiar with the later books in the series but he took more and MORE creative license. Provided me with a lot of entertainment when I was a young (ahem) whipper-stoner, though.
I gave up after the second one, A Separate Reality. His books had people sellin’ all kinds of shit as peyote.
thers, is it ok if i drop in some more ot (gaza) links here?
Hard to imagine what a different world it would be had Gore prevailed.
I remember that. Great book. Too bad Brautigan was so depressed he did himself in.
Afraid to say that I read the first 3. Then again, I did have a strong preference for fantasy fiction then. He was outed professionally long before he died and his Ph.D. revoked for fraud.
yes, i know any of the doorknobs in my house would have done less damage.
And even more buying it. 8-)
If 9/11 had happened under Gore, he would have been impeached.
Sad, I know. But he sure gave me a shock and a laugh.
This would be a good place.
I think it was in “A Separate Reality” that Juan tells Carlos during his peyote experience, he (Carlos) stripped naked and chased the dog around outside the house… pissing on him. Juan said that was okay though, because the dog pissed on Carlos later.
Yep. PCP got sold under a lot of labels.
He borrowed pretty heavily from a wide variety of sources. It all would have been fine if it had been published as fiction.
Lessee, isn’t scholarship by its nature agenda-driven? The agenda is to write a history, or a history textbook, or a biography, or something like that.
Oh wait, they mean Partisan agenda driven. Sorry. Language, when it’s not specific enough you get to thinkin’ all kindsa things that mebbe aren’t what was really happnin’.
thanks, i’ll wait until tomorrow morning and wait for a live thread.
They also sort of frown on doing that for your Ph.D. dissertation.
It’s still a great read.
Really? Damn. There goes that idea.
I don’t mind about OT ever, really, personally. (I was just messing with TKK, whom I’ve known a long time.)
Just speaking for me though, on a sensitive current issue like this one I’d only request that unless it’s breaking news that’s clearly breaking news (ie all over the networks & prints), that unless there is absolute certainty as to something’s veracity, be careful. Which is just general advice, really.
And as always here I defer to the mods.
Not the first or last example of a fraudulent dissertation, I’m certain. As fate would have it, he (presumably) made so damn much money from the series he was set for life and any degree was superfluous. Of course there’s the little matter of ethics…
It has been tried elsewhere. There was a case in the Ed. School when I was in grad school. Guy got his Ed.D. and then they discovered that he had plagiarized his dissertation. From one done in the same department several years earlier. And one of his committee members had been on that committee as well.
It was great living without television for about six years. Mr. CE (oops, Dr. CE) and I read and loved with abandon.
we would never have realized what we had been spared from. If someone could have told us, we wouldn’t have believed them.
I once heard of a terrible case involving an established professor who gave the exact same conference paper at multiple conferences for several decades with only superficial alterations.
Can you believe the corruption?
Well, see, I had this idea that I could write a dissertation on the mating habits of the 3-legged leech in the Mekong Delta. I wouldn’t have to plagiarize anything cuz I’d make it all up. *g*
I went to find a link for my story and it immediately mentioned peyote. Oh well…
I actually met one of the very few people that were licensed to legally harvest peyote in the US. Through my Dad, no less! Of course it was for the religious ceremonies of the Indians, not for sale to civilians or even “converts”. This was in the seventies and this guy was very old. Near the border between TX-Mexico, a fairly remote spot then & even now, the closest town was Mirando City. Literary license calling that place a city, as it only has 492 residents at the last census!
We had one of those in anthropology. Remember him well. In a couple of cases, he gave it at the same conference several times over the years. People sort of laughed at him. Wasn’t even a very good paper. Of course, as in the current case, that may be related to why he always gave the same paper.
would he qualify as a cretin?
I think the Rolling Stones made the first pop culture reference to peyote with their 1967 release, “Between the Buttons.”:-)
I knew quite a few traditional peyotists in Oklahoma (which is where the modern Native American Church was started). I even knew the guy who spread the Peyote Religion to the interior northwest (dated one of his sisters for a while, actually). Had no idea until I came up here and was working up a class on the tribes in the region and lo and behold, there he was bigger than Dallas and much more respected.
OT
‘Hamas Has Not Been Weakened’
BushCo and the congress support the invasion of Gaza and the bonbing. This multi facted story give some hope that Turkey may help broker a peace.
No, more as “low functioning.”
CNN says Bush was briefed this afternoon on the Gaza situation.
He probably paid about as much attention to that as he did to “Bin Laden determined to fly airplanes into U.S. skyscrapers” and “thousands of lives in danger in New Orleans.”
Does this mean I should throw my old collection away?
Well, he has really important stuff on his mind you know. Like bike riding and working out and clearing brush and all. Also.
“Did any of’em give to my liberry? No?”
At least move them from “nonfiction” to “fiction”.
if he is still on the ranch, we are doomed. wasn’t he on the ranch when he got briefed then?
Golly.
I can see the Shoney’s restaurant placemats now!
You know, the bike really has been out of the news since he had that public spill. He was quite the avid rider before that.
I believe he was on both occasions. Or possibly had just left the ranch to fly to John McSame’s birthday partay in case of NO.
Probably doesn’t allow the press to come along anymore. Either that or threatened to pull their press passes if they report anything about it.
he’s reaching the age where he ought to be thinking about riding a riding mower. or a golf cart.
Hey now! Your getting a bit too close for comfort for some of us who still enjoy hiking in the mountains.
Chuck E. Cheese seems more Dubya’s speed.
sorry, I didn’t mean to paint all people of that age with that brush. I was thinking more in terms of what his bicycle accident might have been telling him.
teddy upstairs
Like he is a natural born klutz? He fell off the segway as well. I think he has a natural inborn talent for that.
Go read Teddy! Night allz…
incompetence across a broad range of indicators.
Night, Thers. Think I will head out as well. Night all.
g’nite thers
Also.
That word has been condemned.
and what a perfectly good word it was, until…
How’s the New Year treating you? Early indicators are very important, you know!
As usual Rich is solid as a rock. Too bad the link was not to the NYT article.
The tradgedy of BushCo was the monumental cruelty and devoid of humanity. George Bush is a pig in every sense of the word. He crushes everyone including his own. His appetite for all manner of evil is unmatched in presidential history. To charaterize his actions and inactions as stupidity is such an understatement it demeans the word stupidity. Complicit crininal is far more accurate than cretin.
He singlehandedly has done more harm than any prior person on the planet.
The wolf in sheeps clothing.
He called sooi sooi sooi and the pigs came squealing by the droves as he opened the nations coffers for them MIC and wall street pigged out.
Thought better of making the obvious comment about the audience in DrDick’s great story. Then I happened on the following passage from a Robert Parry article about Henry Kissinger, which says it all:
Thus are made the reputations of the Wise Men of our time.
The press are natural courtiers, and George Bush behaves like a king, complete with the same mix of stupidity and arrogance common to kings in the days when they actually ruled. So naturally they love him.
The media conglomorates make most of their money from TV and cable, which is heavily govy regulated, while print media are dying anyway. So they can’t afford to print/report the truth about the govt, even if the reporters aren’t courtiers (see: Scheer, Robert, and Rather, Dan).
Cretinism:
A condition originating in fetal life or early infancy, due to severe Thyroid deficiency. Characterized by stunting of physical and mental development.
Put the blame where it belongs, The son of an organized criminal syndicate boss that abolished his humanity with drink and drugs until he became a member of his sociopathic family through default.
Laura does not smoke two packs a day because they improve the environment, she does it to survive the emotional turmoil.