Comments on: Rice, White House Give Israel Go-Ahead for More War in Gaza

By: shekissesfrogs

shekissesfrogs — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:45:57 +0000

Some of those rockets are fired by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, which are associated with Fatah, resulting in false flags.

By: MarkH

MarkH — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:14:08 +0000

I think the general Israeli plan is to prolong the low grade insurgency. It’s worked for 60 years, at a relatively low cost to Israel, or at least a cost it seems willing to pay.

And, the war mongers urge them on with talk of revenge and national pride and survival and the Holocaust and all the rest. How can you end a war when the opposition might get elected by calling you a coward or traitor?

It takes real leadership to do what’s good for the nation and it’s people DESPITE political consequences and personal feelings. Does Israel and the Palestinians have such leadership?

By: politicat

politicat — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 01:33:35 +0000

Please explain to me where the non-civilian areas are in the Gaza Strip which is 4 miles wide and 25 miles long, and contains 1.4 million people.

By: RiderOnTheStorm

RiderOnTheStorm — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:42:14 +0000

You make a number of interesting points, but perhaps the best is “There is no proportionality in war”. If anything, I’ve been taken with the restraint Israel has shown — not that hysterical commentators here and elsewhere have noticed. (Free clue for those: if Israel’s intentions were to simply kill as many Palestinians as possible, then they could have saved considerable time, expense and effort by merely carpet-bombing Gaza with anything/everything they had laying around…rather than actually selecting targets and trying to hit them with relatively precise weapons. This would be much quicker, probably much more effective in a military sense, and certainly a lot cheaper — guided munitions are expensive.) (Second free clue: it’s not an accident that we are seeing reports of collateral damage to schools, mosques, hospitals, etc.: it’s the result of deliberate actions by Hamas to locate what they know will be targets in precisely such places, partially as a deterrent to attack, and partly to score PR points with the gullible.)

By: RiderOnTheStorm

RiderOnTheStorm — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:29:27 +0000

Could well be, given the disorganization inherent in such situations. I suppose it’s entirely possible that some factions are determined to provoke retaliation for political reasons of their own, e.g., undermining Hamas. If that’s the case, though, it would seem to be in Hamas’ tactical and strategic best interest to stop the import of such weapons (through the tunnels or from the sea) and to communicate their intention to do so via back channels to the Israelis.

By: ghostof911

ghostof911 — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:18:41 +0000

You are quite right in that the missiles being fired on Israel have no military purpose or effect, from a Palestinian standpoint. If they are in fact being fired by Mossad agents, they serve a strategic military purpose: giving justification for the Isreali response.

Like 9/11 it’s another false flag operation, conducted by the same players.

By: dejadejavu

dejadejavu — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:41:11 +0000

It’s a wee bit one sided to equate the situation to a case of two independent soverign nations living side by side in peace when one suddenly and without provocation attacks the other, which simply defends itself.
I wonder what you would think if you woke up tomorrow and your neighbor had torn down your backyard fence and built a garage in your yard, and parked his car across your driveway.

By: KiwiJackson

KiwiJackson — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:38:02 +0000

Dr. Rice must have, back when, written the dissertation one loathes to have to read- the kind of PhD. Herr Bush and crew apparently love to death. Our death. Good riddance and may Stanford students shit on you as much as you deserve.

By: acquarius74

acquarius74 — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:34:24 +0000

Rice says that Abbas won the election and Hamas has tried to pull off a coup??? Lies.

She and Bush (”we”) are talking with other world leaders….(all but Hamas, that is).

IMO the truth on this and other matters is the opposite of the words spoken by Bush/Rice/Cheney.

I see Israel as the husband that abuses his wife for questioning his conduct, then as she stand before him bruised, bloody and broken, he shouts at her, “NOW SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!”

By: timr

timr — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:11:29 +0000

War is hell. But Israel has,IMO, the absolute right to defend itself against all enemies. Hamas has sent suicide bombers, rockets and morters to kill Israeli citizens, yet the MSM and the world just stood by and said nothing. Now that Israel has said “ENOUGH” and has declared war on Hamas, the world comes out and condems them. There is no proportionality in war. Israel has the right and obligation to its citizens to protect them by waging total war, overwhelming war. “Shock and Awe”. Anything to end it quickly with the fewest number of Israeli citizens killed and injured. No country in the world should have to take suicide bombers and unguided rockets killing anyone who just happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I note that Hamas has placed everything that would be a target next to a school or hospital. I also note that while Gaza is being attacked, all except for 1 leader has gone into hiding. I would also note that Egypt also has a border with Gaza that they also keep closed, yet everyone screams at Israel for closing their border after being attacked by bombers and rockets. Has any arab country come out to defend Hamas?…..crickets, anyone?
People always blame Israel when they use their high tech to attack their enemies, yet no one condems Hamas for taking power by killing all the PA employees who were not Hamas members. A wee bit one sided, no?