Comments on: Why Israel Won’t Allow Journalists Into Gaza http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:58:45 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1776248 MarkH Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1776248 <blockquote><p>In the case of Hamas we’re talking about a few extremists. WRT Israel, we’re talking about the entire machinery of a nation-state. Hardly the same.</p></blockquote> <p>If Hamas is ‘a few extremists’, then it should be as easy as getting rid of Al Qaeda and it’s sympathizers in Iraq.</p> <p>I don’t know that it’s fair or honest to equate the Israeli government with Hamas militants. Sure, there are some extremists within Israel, but they aren’t dominant.</p>

In the case of Hamas we’re talking about a few extremists. WRT Israel, we’re talking about the entire machinery of a nation-state. Hardly the same.

If Hamas is ‘a few extremists’, then it should be as easy as getting rid of Al Qaeda and it’s sympathizers in Iraq.

I don’t know that it’s fair or honest to equate the Israeli government with Hamas militants. Sure, there are some extremists within Israel, but they aren’t dominant.

]]> By: Gitcheegumee http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775984 Gitcheegumee Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:37:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775984 <p>Israeli patrol boat collides with aid ship off Gaza<br /> AFP - 24 minutes ago<br /> TYRE, Lebanon (AFP) - An Israeli naval vessel collided on Tuesday with a boat carrying activists and medical supplies that was trying to break the blockade of Gaza, forcing it to divert to a port in Lebanon.<br /> Video: Damaged Gaza aid boat docks in southern Lebanon - 30 Dec 08 AlJazeeraEnglish<br /> Gaza aid boat ’rammed by Israel’ BBC News</p> Israeli patrol boat collides with aid ship off Gaza
AFP – 24 minutes ago
TYRE, Lebanon (AFP) – An Israeli naval vessel collided on Tuesday with a boat carrying activists and medical supplies that was trying to break the blockade of Gaza, forcing it to divert to a port in Lebanon.
Video: Damaged Gaza aid boat docks in southern Lebanon – 30 Dec 08 AlJazeeraEnglish
Gaza aid boat ’rammed by Israel’ BBC News

]]> By: Gitcheegumee http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775978 Gitcheegumee Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:34:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775978 <p>One-Minute World News————BBC </p> <p>Gaza aid boat ‘rammed by Israel’ </p> <p>The damaged boat arrives at a Lebanese port</p> <p>A boat delivering 3.5 tonnes of Cypriot medical aid to the Gaza Strip has been rammed by Israeli naval vessels in international waters, activists say. </p> <p>The Free Gaza campaign group, which operates the Dignity, also claimed shots were fired towards the crew. </p> <p>The boat later docked in Lebanon after sustaining serious damage to one side. </p> <p>Israeli officials confirmed there had been “physical contact” but denied reports of shooting and said the crew had not responded to radio calls. </p> <p>The 20m (66ft) Dignity was carrying 15 civilian passengers, including several doctors, journalists, a former US congresswoman and a member of the Cypriot parliament, says Free Gaza. </p> <p>‘Heavy gunfire’ </p> <p>Crowds turned out to greet the Dignity as it arrived in Tyre port.<br /> The organisation sent out an urgent statement on Tuesday saying the vessel had been surrounded by at least six Israeli military ships. </p> <p>“They are firing live ammunition around the Dignity, and one of the warships has rammed the civilian craft causing an unknown amount of damage,” said the statement~~~~~~~~~~~~~Excerpt fromm BBC online</p> One-Minute World News————BBC

Gaza aid boat ‘rammed by Israel’

The damaged boat arrives at a Lebanese port

A boat delivering 3.5 tonnes of Cypriot medical aid to the Gaza Strip has been rammed by Israeli naval vessels in international waters, activists say.

The Free Gaza campaign group, which operates the Dignity, also claimed shots were fired towards the crew.

The boat later docked in Lebanon after sustaining serious damage to one side.

Israeli officials confirmed there had been “physical contact” but denied reports of shooting and said the crew had not responded to radio calls.

The 20m (66ft) Dignity was carrying 15 civilian passengers, including several doctors, journalists, a former US congresswoman and a member of the Cypriot parliament, says Free Gaza.

‘Heavy gunfire’

Crowds turned out to greet the Dignity as it arrived in Tyre port.
The organisation sent out an urgent statement on Tuesday saying the vessel had been surrounded by at least six Israeli military ships.

“They are firing live ammunition around the Dignity, and one of the warships has rammed the civilian craft causing an unknown amount of damage,” said the statement~~~~~~~~~~~~~Excerpt fromm BBC online

]]> By: Gitcheegumee http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775966 Gitcheegumee Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:22:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775966 <p>Wonder who the Israeli government has hired to do the PR spin on this “meshugganah”?</p> Wonder who the Israeli government has hired to do the PR spin on this “meshugganah”?

]]> By: shootthatarrow http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775960 shootthatarrow Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:11:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775960 <p>Yahoo!News home page currently running Israeli framed version of Gazan medical aid boat being turned back by Israeli Navy and “confused” reports of deliberate collision when Israeli Navy was trying to “radio” aid boat it could not enter Gazan waters.</p> <p>So…Gaza is not under Israeli control since Israeli Gaza pullout but Israel controls Gazan airspace,Gazan waters and Gazan borders. </p> <p> Israel decides who cannot get into Gaza or get out of Gaza or what goes into Gaza or comes out of Gaza but then wants to claim it does not “control” Gaza.</p> <p>The Israelis are simply not being honest in any of this.</p> <p>Note to Yahoo!News–less propaganda shoveling–more true facts,reporting.</p> Yahoo!News home page currently running Israeli framed version of Gazan medical aid boat being turned back by Israeli Navy and “confused” reports of deliberate collision when Israeli Navy was trying to “radio” aid boat it could not enter Gazan waters.

So…Gaza is not under Israeli control since Israeli Gaza pullout but Israel controls Gazan airspace,Gazan waters and Gazan borders.

Israel decides who cannot get into Gaza or get out of Gaza or what goes into Gaza or comes out of Gaza but then wants to claim it does not “control” Gaza.

The Israelis are simply not being honest in any of this.

Note to Yahoo!News–less propaganda shoveling–more true facts,reporting.

]]> By: Watson http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775936 Watson Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:45:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775936 <p>NYT: ‘No End in Sight in Gaza Battle’</p> <p>Battle?</p> NYT: ‘No End in Sight in Gaza Battle’

Battle?

]]> By: Gitcheegumee http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775932 Gitcheegumee Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:41:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775932 <p>WEll, this sure gets Bernie Madoff-off the front pages,doesn’t it. Seems like a lot of s- - - is hitting the Semitic fan just before Bush is oficially whisked out of the White House. Wonder how many billions went to fund the Israeli war on Gaza,and anybody else they decided to take out?</p> WEll, this sure gets Bernie Madoff-off the front pages,doesn’t it. Seems like a lot of s- – - is hitting the Semitic fan just before Bush is oficially whisked out of the White House. Wonder how many billions went to fund the Israeli war on Gaza,and anybody else they decided to take out?

]]> By: Ted666 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775919 Ted666 Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:31:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775919 <p>Stupid typo ….sense not since.</p> Stupid typo ….sense not since.

]]> By: Ted666 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775918 Ted666 Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:30:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775918 <p>“Friendly fire” in the since that they are allegedly our “friends” and they definitely fired on the Liberty. They just did it on purpose.</p> “Friendly fire” in the since that they are allegedly our “friends” and they definitely fired on the Liberty. They just did it on purpose.

]]> By: viejolex1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775913 viejolex1 Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:22:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/#comment-1775913 <p>Friendly fire? Either do some real research, or be good enough to share what you’re smoking.</p> Friendly fire? Either do some real research, or be good enough to share what you’re smoking.

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