Comments on: Why Are Palestinians Expected to Do What Americans Would Never Do?

By: bluebutterfly

bluebutterfly — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:27:42 +0000

The situation in Ireland was greatly complicated/compromised by the double agent Denis Donaldson. He worked for the British intelligence services for 20 years while rising to become a senior and trusted Sinn Fein figure. He was close to Gerry Adams (party president)and Martin McGuinness (chief negotiator).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_.....877680.stm

By: bluebutterfly

bluebutterfly — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:14:16 +0000

Israel does not want peace. Israel wants the Arabs gone off of their land. Here is Moshe Feiglin, of the Likud Party, giving a speech on the ethnic cleansing of Arabs in Gaza. The steps he gives to accomplish driving the Palestinians off of their land are simple. As he says in the video…encourage them to leave, occupy the land, Israel law, flourish the place with Jewish villages, and never sign a peace process.

He uses the example of how 60,000 Syrian Arabs were driven from the Golan Heights.

http://video.google.ca/videopl.....5452525532

By: MarkH

MarkH — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:30:45 +0000

The last of Hamas’s founders was killed after he started saying he might be willing to sign a one hundred year truce.

Killed by Israelis? Did they know he “might be willing to sign”? Would he actually have signed and stood by it? Would he have been killed by other Hamas members if he had signed?

There are a lot of uncertainties in all these statements, treaties, temporary cease fires and all the rest. Even the Israeli’s acceptance of occasional rocket attacks only starts to worry them when there are hundreds and they’re reaching further.

I think the reality is there’s still a need for WAR the great clarifier.

But, should you think I feel it’s ‘just’ or right for Israel to pound Gaza, I should add that West Bank settlers need to feel the sword also. Whose land is it?

By: MarkH

MarkH — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:19:02 +0000

The conflict will end when the U.S. stops its unconditional support — nay, encouragement, of Israeli expansion.

Will it really end? How do you know? Aren’t there Palestinians (and other Muslims) who vow to wipe Israel from the face of the Earth?

BTW, what ‘encouragement’ has America given for the settlements?

I wonder how well those settlers would do if West Bank Palestinians had better weaponry to use against them? Would they brave it out?

By: MarkH

MarkH — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:05:12 +0000

consider if Israel was an Arab state and those were Jews in Gaza. How would what is going on there be viewed then?

Brilliant as usual Hugh. How indeed would they HAVE TO RESPOND?

If someone attacks your people then you have no choice but to respond.
Problem is there are provocateurs who love a good war between other people.
Who is feeding this one with weapons and making good profits on it?

By: MarkH

MarkH — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:02:38 +0000

There are too many factions, that have too much access to means of retaliation and a culture that values vendetta,

How exactly is is that they “have too much access to means of retaliation”?
It seems someone wants them to attack Israel and they are willing.

Who supports their militancy? Does it come in from Egypt?
If Egypt allows this, then why are they now preventing Gazans from fleeing?

By: MarkH

MarkH — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:58:07 +0000

Ian wrote: If a nation bombed the US, would the US counter-attack?

Of course it would. The question is absurd.

Or we might attack some other random country which has oil.

By: dejadejavu

dejadejavu — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:50:52 +0000

As Obama would say, “What the frig does that have to do with my old Senate seat or golf?”

By: Margot

Margot — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:44:17 +0000

Thanks very much for that link.

By: Arkinsaw

Arkinsaw — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:36:45 +0000

I can’t seem to get the link thingy to work…here’s the link for Chris Hedges’ article

http://www.truthdig.com/report.....to_murder/