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	<title>Comments on: Those Who Don&#8217;t Learn From George Bush&#8217;s Mistakes Are Destined To Repeat Them</title>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/those-who-dont-learn-from-george-bushs-mistakes-are-destined-to-repeat-them/#comment-1776758</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem is that the hardliners think that their only mistake was not pushing even harder.  Kinda like the nutjobs who think our only mistake in Vietnam was not using nukes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the hardliners think that their only mistake was not pushing even harder.  Kinda like the nutjobs who think our only mistake in Vietnam was not using nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;puny inaccurate missiles versus a real army with real weaponry.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder how much each of those missiles (with launcher) cost?&lt;br /&gt;
Where are they made?&lt;br /&gt;
How much profit is there in the sale of each?&lt;br /&gt;
Where do the Gazans get the money, or are those weapons donated to “the cause”?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Zionist Jews from somewhere outside Israel were supplying the Gazans with weapons to keep the war going?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>puny inaccurate missiles versus a real army with real weaponry.</p>
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<p>I wonder how much each of those missiles (with launcher) cost?<br />
Where are they made?<br />
How much profit is there in the sale of each?<br />
Where do the Gazans get the money, or are those weapons donated to “the cause”?</p>
<p>Wouldn’t it be a hoot if Zionist Jews from somewhere outside Israel were supplying the Gazans with weapons to keep the war going?</p>
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		<title>By: Winski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Netan-yaya remains on the political scene after chimpy retires to his pig farm I’ll be amazed.. Since NO ONE with any brain cells supports this fool except, Chimp, Darth and Bolton, the faster they put him out to pasture he better….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Netan-yaya remains on the political scene after chimpy retires to his pig farm I’ll be amazed.. Since NO ONE with any brain cells supports this fool except, Chimp, Darth and Bolton, the faster they put him out to pasture he better….</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess that’s it…Ms. Perozide probably didn’t want a Christmas trip to Crawford.  Boy, I did not want that kid trying to interpret W….or, a couple of kindergarten kids do the news.  (I really should quit.)  He made some statement about what “we” had done, and had to correct the statement to say “Israel.”  Cool.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that’s it…Ms. Perozide probably didn’t want a Christmas trip to Crawford.  Boy, I did not want that kid trying to interpret W….or, a couple of kindergarten kids do the news.  (I really should quit.)  He made some statement about what “we” had done, and had to correct the statement to say “Israel.”  Cool.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;*gah* I despise the AP…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_un_israel_palestinians&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US, UN, EU and Russia urge immediate Gaza truce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Key world powers trying to promote Mideast peace urged Israel and Hamas on Tuesday to immediately stop fighting in Gaza and southern Israel, the United Nations announced as international efforts to calm the conflict picked up pace.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Quartet of Mideast peacemakers — the United States, United Nations, European Union and Russia — appealed “for an immediate cease-fire that would be fully respected,” U.N. deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe said.[…]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ban had complained to reporters Monday that regional and international partners were not doing enough to help end the Israeli-Hamas conflict.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“They should do more,” he said. “They should use all possible means to end the violence and encourage political dialogue, emphasizing peaceful ways of resolving differences.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Zalmay Khalilzad, the American ambassador to the U.N., called Ban’s criticism “unfair.” He said the United States had been very active diplomatically. Rice, for one, had been on the phone with the Israelis, the Palestinians, the Europeans, the Russians and others, he said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Everyone is of the view that two things are important — an end to violence, a cease-fire, an enduring cease-fire, and two … the humanitarian needs of the Palestinians in Gaza,” Khalilzad told The Associated Press.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Khalilzad stressed that a cease-fire must deal “not only with what we’re seeing now, of course, but also what has caused it, which from our point of view is the sequencing — it is the rockets, it’s the smuggling of arms by Hamas and the other (Palestinian militant) groups.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rice has called for a “durable and sustainable” cease-fire, with stronger provisions than the rocky six-month truce between Hamas and Israel that expired earlier this month after Hamas refused to extend it. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Spin, baby, spin…!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*gah* I despise the AP…</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081230/ap_on_re_mi_ea/un_un_israel_palestinians" rel="nofollow">US, UN, EU and Russia urge immediate Gaza truce</a></p>
<p>Key world powers trying to promote Mideast peace urged Israel and Hamas on Tuesday to immediately stop fighting in Gaza and southern Israel, the United Nations announced as international efforts to calm the conflict picked up pace.</p>
<p>The Quartet of Mideast peacemakers — the United States, United Nations, European Union and Russia — appealed “for an immediate cease-fire that would be fully respected,” U.N. deputy spokeswoman Marie Okabe said.[…]</p>
<p>Ban had complained to reporters Monday that regional and international partners were not doing enough to help end the Israeli-Hamas conflict.</p>
<p>“They should do more,” he said. “They should use all possible means to end the violence and encourage political dialogue, emphasizing peaceful ways of resolving differences.”</p>
<p>Zalmay Khalilzad, the American ambassador to the U.N., called Ban’s criticism “unfair.” He said the United States had been very active diplomatically. Rice, for one, had been on the phone with the Israelis, the Palestinians, the Europeans, the Russians and others, he said.</p>
<p>“Everyone is of the view that two things are important — an end to violence, a cease-fire, an enduring cease-fire, and two … the humanitarian needs of the Palestinians in Gaza,” Khalilzad told The Associated Press.</p>
<p>Khalilzad stressed that a cease-fire must deal “not only with what we’re seeing now, of course, but also what has caused it, which from our point of view is the sequencing — it is the rockets, it’s the smuggling of arms by Hamas and the other (Palestinian militant) groups.”</p>
<p>Rice has called for a “durable and sustainable” cease-fire, with stronger provisions than the rocky six-month truce between Hamas and Israel that expired earlier this month after Hamas refused to extend it. </p>
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<p>Spin, baby, spin…!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Bush White House is in its 4th quarter down by 50 points.  The only ones left are the scrubs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush White House is in its 4th quarter down by 50 points.  The only ones left are the scrubs.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The NewsHour had on a spokesman for the Egyptian government who said virtually nothing.  Then they have a couple of talking heads discussing Gaza.  Both were asked about Hamas’ political motives.  But Israel’s poliical motives were left essentially unaddressed.  I suppose the NewsHour was trying but it wasn’t all that great a discussion.  Only at the end the Arab expert in something of a rush tried to talk about the disproportionality, hundreds of Palestinians dead versus a handful of Israelis, puny inaccurate missiles versus a real army with real weaponry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NewsHour had on a spokesman for the Egyptian government who said virtually nothing.  Then they have a couple of talking heads discussing Gaza.  Both were asked about Hamas’ political motives.  But Israel’s poliical motives were left essentially unaddressed.  I suppose the NewsHour was trying but it wasn’t all that great a discussion.  Only at the end the Arab expert in something of a rush tried to talk about the disproportionality, hundreds of Palestinians dead versus a handful of Israelis, puny inaccurate missiles versus a real army with real weaponry.</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Newshour:   “Peace process that the United States ignored for 7 years, 8 years.” Congratulations Condi and W; heckuva job.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newshour:   “Peace process that the United States ignored for 7 years, 8 years.” Congratulations Condi and W; heckuva job.</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
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		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So?  Do they let him out very much?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So?  Do they let him out very much?</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t think anybody’s too worried about litigation from Coleman.  He’s lost every motion he’s filed so far.  He keeps pullin’ shit out of the Rethug playbook and the court’s not havin’ any of it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t think anybody’s too worried about litigation from Coleman.  He’s lost every motion he’s filed so far.  He keeps pullin’ shit out of the Rethug playbook and the court’s not havin’ any of it.</p>
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