I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Teens got hormones?

Morning all. How’s the coffee where you are?

PS — While we’re at it, can the creepy “purity ball” movement disappear now, too? Ick.

When my wingnut cousin’s daughter got married she had to give him back her “purity ring” to signify to her dad that she had never done the dirty. I noticed the groom didn’t give a purity ring to his mom. No, I didn’t ask.

And yes, it was creepy.

News flash: Planet earth is a globe
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What is the STD rate in the red states before and after Bush? I wonder if the numbers are accurate though.
If the guy who did the economy numbers for Bush when he said the economy is fine when it turns out that we have been in a recession for a year (and I would argue for the last 8 years) is the same one doing STD stats then I can’t trust the numbers.

I would also expect that the Aids rate has gone up under Bush too.

Mornin’, Christy. Soon as I saw the aspirin pic I knew I’d find a reference in the post.

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Aids rate has gone up under Bush too

ewwwwww!

Enquiring minds want to know whether or not Bristol will sell the baby pictures to the highest bidder.
Maybe the today show will have her on.

“Purity ball” has really creepy incestuous undertones.

Doubtless Ann Curry is packing her bags now…along with Barbara Walters…Diane Sawyer…

“Stunningly superficial….”

This is George Lakoff’s strict parent model (Republicans) run amok.

How did you come up with that time? 492 hours into 2009 & 38 / 45 left this yr.
530 hrs & 45 min

Phyllis has a gay son. I can’t imagine a worse mom for a gay kid.

http://www.qrd.org/qrd/misc/te…..GHT.RIDDER

Morning Christy
not sure those people can ever “get real”

Quote on today’s entry in the GWBush Out of Office Countdown calendar:

“But all in all, it’s been a fabulous year for Laura and me.”
Washington, DC, December 2001

Exactly. At my wingnut cousin’s daughter’s wedding, when she gave him back her “purity ring” he said something about relinquishing her to another man. It was really creepy.

I could write volumes…did some writing/research years back for a true crime book that I lost the stomach for writing midway. The little girl’s fate still haunts me. Why, why, why, he was in that pew, right there, every Sunday…

Thanks to Gram Johnston’s arrest on six felony drug charges, the price of Bristol Palin’s baby pics of Tripp have trebled. Bidding for the first snaps of Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston began at $100,000, but have rumored to have jumped in price to $300,000 when the not-born’s paternal Gram Sherry was popped last week for peddling Oxycontin, aka hillbilly heroin, to state troopers.

MSNBC reports:

“The bidding started well before the baby was born, but once Levi’s mom was arrested — well, then you had a story,” says one editor.

People magazine scored the snap-rights.

http://lafiga.firedoglake.com/…..cs-triple/

Ewwwwww — that is creepy.

Hey, pups, be sure to read Bob Herbert today.

Where’s George?

My guess. In the guest house. Under the Jack bottles. Hung-over.

21 full days, December 31-January 20 (including full 24 hours on January 20) = 504 + balance of today, which now is 15 hours, 40 minutes. Am I blowin’ smoke?

Phyllis is Evil personified.

Kids, ‘Abstinence Only’ and ‘Loaded Guns’: http://cectic.com/091.html

Reminds me of Jack Hawkins’ ole in Zulu where he’s caught in a storage room with a jug.

as I’ve pointed out on these threads, just as we do not need to breath when we are in our mothers womb, we have not reached that stage of development but once born you cannot stop the function the same is true of our sex drive

sex is something you can not pledge away as if i’s a choice, it’s one of the most powerful drives we have, it’s the drive to reproduce.

pledging away sex is like pledging away drinking water, you’re goonna get your water one way or another.

by the way, if a person with a normal sex drive does indeed intend on honoring their pledge they will therefore marry the first person they want to have sex with whether or not that marriage will last.

people forget men and women married much younger a generation ago, it’s alot easier to stay celebate if you’re getting married as a teenager then if you’re getting married into your twenties, a generation ago you were an old maid if not married by the time you were twenty, now if you get married before twenty you married far too young

it’s all perspective but the physical evolution of our bodies is still the same, adolsence we were designed to desire sex, ain’t nothing you can do about that

all we can do is educate, education is inoculaion

the people against pre-marital sex are married

go

figure

I reached sexual maturity at the time my religion said I was supposed to reach it, 13, there were some in my class who reached it a couple of years early, some later

I don’t suspect that has changed much at all

the previous is a compilation of some of my posts on this subject I might add

edit – ole role

A little quick on the trigger this mornin’.

This guy he seems ok? Or are you referring to his idea how Republicans Parent?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lakoff

I think the shift is suppossed to be noon on the 1/20. That is 19 1/2 in 2009 + 1 3/4 this yr.
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I think ya only get 12 hours on the 20th. The show starts at noon iirc.

Bill maher mentioned once and I saw the article where they followed up on some of these absitinence kids and most of them, in fact were not having sex. Well, sex sex. Oral sex yes. Anal sex, yes-at a very high rate. They didn’t consider that as breaking their vow not to have sex. i thought it was a pretty significant number of kids who were surveyed, not just a small number. I’ll see if I can run down a link.

I owe ya a drink.

There’s always been the sympathy jump, now there’s the abstinence knobber.

No, shitferbrains, ya owe fhm a drink.

Good morning all:

Teenagers have Hormones?

Who could have imagined?

When I went to dig, I faced a quandry.

Is ‘this’”Political News” (under “World & Business”)?

Or, is it “Science”, or “Lifesstyle” or perhaps even “Gaming”?

There is no catch-all category, such as “Human Nature”, or the the elegant and universally applicable, “Duh …”.

Newsflash!!! America discovers that each generation “discovers” sex and believes that they have invented it.

Unfortunately, older ‘Murkan folk are unwilling and resolutely unprepared to offer any advice, that might prove useful in the clinches.

“Stunningly superficial….”
I would have loved to see Joe’s face when Brzezinski called his views “Stunningly superficial….” I just saw his whining. I definitely does cover most repubs.

Off to the vet.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

Hey its early – don’t sweat it coffee please
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I had no idea that they would actually sell the photos… GEEE The media needs to have a series on teenage moms and the difficulties that arise. Bristol is not exactly a role model that we need.

Is there a “No Sex” category?

Almost correct…

19 full days in 2009 (Jan 1, 2, … 19) = 24×19 = 456
12 hours on the 20th => +12 = 468
1 full day in 2008 (Dec 31) => +24 = 492
(hours today – your results may vary, about 14 hr 28 min) +14 = 506

So I get 506 hr 26 min.

Now you know why I struggled with math. Here’s my last (:-) go at this, honest:

19.5 days in 2009 = 468
December 31 = 24
December 30 = 15, 25 minutes

Total to noon 01/20 = 507 hrs, 25 min.

Jon Swifts A Modest Proposal suggests that the Conservative Dream of the Good old Days when everyone was moral and faithful never existed.
But till death do us part was easier back then because the death rate was so high.
I wonder what the numbers then and now for the leading cause of death for pregnant women is I think husbands and boyfriends rank way up there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

What, you think celebrity high school drop-out pregnancy isn’t chic? *g*

Thanks your right you just made my day – 24 hours closer to ex pres Bush
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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/21606.php

Another overlooked “category”, nomolous.

(Am uncertain regarding ‘issue’ of who should be consigned to such a place, as well as, by whom?)

“Creepy” barely begins to describe it. “Sick and twisted” or “utterly appalling” is more like it. I have a 14 year old daughter. Talk to her about sex? OK. (But she’d rather talk to her mom or step-mom than me … also OK.) But this purity ball / purity ring stuff? The mind recoils in horror.

I can’t take credit for this, but someone on another blog I read posted an interesting idea: that this is actually exactly what the abstinence-only people want. The goal is to make pregnancy and STDs punishments for having The Sex. Actual abstinence has nothing to do with it. That’s why they don’t just stop at ‘condoms don’t work’, they continue onto ‘condoms cause cancer’. I guess better AIDS than guiltless sex.

14 hrs & 20 min blame it on time zones.
506 hrs & 19 min

another article in this. these abstinence kids are engaging in oral and anal sex and think it doesn’t count.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..Mar18.html

Sure she is if your a country western singer looking for lyrics:)

The post did an article a while about the disturbing trend of husbands/boyfriends killing their pregnant wives essentially as a form of birth control. I don’t know the numbers either, but I’m reasonably certain homicide is in the top 5.

Booyah!! Let the White House exorcism begin!

OT, Although this is not pull up a chair, I just have to mention that my backyard is filled with doves. I can count eight on my patio, alone.
Don’t tell Dick. He likes hunting for doves in GA.

A guilty population is easier to control politically.

I think that’s a big part of it. Nothing like fostering the ignorance that leads to an unwanted pregnancy that could have been prevented that saddles a child with a child instead of empowering them with useful information on prevention and care of their own selves. SIGH

Calling Bobby Jindal!!

Wasn’t there a huge outbreak of some venereal disease in one of the Bible belt towns in Texas in the last few years? I remember it particularly because all the kids were having anal sex and passing this along to each other in an almost epidemic fashion and the town pediatrician was aghast about it.

I wonder what the numbers are historically if anything I expect them to be worse. But that is the good ole days that Conservatives like Bush want to Bring Back.

best domestic violence resource is Silent Witness Project (the org that displays all over the country its red, life-sized cutouts of women who died via domestic violence). Just checked there, and their site is under construction today. Dang! www dot silentwitness dot org, for future reference.

That ‘perspective’ has the rather terrible ‘tone’ of ‘actuality’ about it. mathgoddess.

I have a very feisty Carolina wren picking out the peanuts in my feeder this morning. He’s jabbering at any bird that tries to grab a shelled peanut. It’s cracking me up.

Tell that to Bill Clinton.

Someone up-thread asked about George Lakoff. His strict parent model describes the way Republicans approach governing the rabble. You must behave. Do not contradict. Big daddy will take care of you, but he will also deal with you harshly if you step out of line. He knows best. Do not attempt to be heard. It is a totally tops-down model. Ergo, the enforced chastity thingie.

Just in case you were thinking that quote might have had some impact on the rest of MSNBC, fear not.

Carrying on the “stunningly superficial” right now as they ponder Caroline’s net worth. So, I wanna know: how many pennies in Andrew Cuomo’s cookie jar? And Nadler’s? Let’s see his crib pic blown up to half page….

Just leave it to the GOP (Goofy Old Patricians)
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That was me :) thanks

he let’s them taked the whole nuts but not the shelled?

that is hillarious

Dang it — I meant to link this Texas Monthly article in about abstinence education and I forgot to pop it into the post.

Don’t know. Sounds familiar now that you mention it.

Also, this summary from Eric Alterman — linked those up above now. Sorry about the omission. That’s what i get for writing several things at once, I suppose. *G*

I just did a small rant about news coverage….what is it that we have this huge Palin/new baby story? Unwed moms used to be shameful…not that that is so good, but is there any concern about a teenage family, unwed, not the 2 parent family that is so foisted on everyone? Is Warren going to comment on this?

Plus another tragic story about wife drowning off cruise ship….with ghoulish questions about what “really” happened? What was the old question about “Have you no decency?” Maybe I really do need a news fast/detox. What do you think?

MSNBC has moved on to Caroline Kennedy. It’s time for me to turn it off.
Bristol will probably receive gifts from all over the states. I’m surprised that evangelicals aren’t arranging baby showers for her now.

Welcome!

That’s hilarious!

Monica had no illusions about how it had happened. “I got sex ed in school,” she said, sitting on a queen-size bed in the couple’s cramped apartment, located on the second story of her parents’ house, in Austin.

OMG, they have a queen-sized bed in a cramped apartment! Obviously they like doing “The Sex”!!!!

Just drank up my coffee, Christy, and am raring to go.

The whole “purity balls” concept gives the game away here. Purity balls are all about reinforcing the idea that women are chattel, and that daughters are the property of their fathers.

Ignorance? Definitely not bliss in all cases. *g*

It’s why about the only thing I ever watch on TV is sports, mostly football. If I turn on any ‘news’ program I only end up yelling at the screen, which irritates the lovely Mrs. Cat.

And what makes you think they aren’t? *g* Tripp and Trig. Such a family. Anyone old enough to remember Flick, Ricka and Dicka?

Okay, I’m laughing out loud. Guys? Anyone out there have purity balls?

Purity balls are all about reinforcing the idea that women are chattel, and that daughters are the property of their fathers.

Bullseye!

They completely creep me out. My father would have decked any moron who tried to suggest that he do something like that with me — he was very big on the “my daughter thinks for herself, thank you very much” having watched a relative of ours deal with an abusive marriage in which she was supposed to be the submissive one.

The last thing he wanted to see for me was a repeat of that mindset. And daddy owning his little girl’s virginity? Uh. Mah. Gawd. that’s icky.

I think it’s why god made the Food Network and those lovely folks who do What Not To Wear. *g*

Seems like a good chance that Sayrah Palin Jr. was one of these chastity ringers. Didn’t work out so well I guess.

I remember some wingnutz calling Sayrah a GILF during the McInsane campaign. Now the “G” means something they didn’t intend-Grandma. Starbursted.

Okay, I’m laughing out loud. Guys? Anyone out there have purity balls?

Wait a minute– are you talking about our anatomy, or what?

I wonder how Sarah likes that Christmas classic.. “Grandma got run over by a reindeer”?

the great grandparents had said she was getting gifts from foreign countries – i forget how many. Jesus God, people, if you have money lying around, give it to charity. Not some privilged trash.

Well, contracted chastity only works if everyone is chaste, right? :-)

What’s the number one rule to remember? Most people are stupid. And thus, you have yer answer. *g*

Well you can laugh but Sarah is one hott grandma.

Besides, who would you rather go hunting with, Sarah or Dick Cheney?

I will say that I am looking forward to being able to watch speeches by the President again.

May I select neither? Because Cheney’s reckless and Sarah ignores sportsmanlike rules, so I’d prefer to avoid both if possible, thanks.

Ain’t it the truth? Every time Chimpy talks on TV I have to run to the mute button. OMG that guy literally makes me nauseous!

That’s not one of the options. :-)

Last time I liveblogged one of his pressers, I had to spend an hour listening to Rostropovich playing Bach’s cello concertos to cleanse my brain of the idiocy.

The scary thing to me is that I live in the north Dallas area and may not be able to avoid hearing him even after he leaves office. Someone even suggested that he might use the airport where I work for his travels, and I nearly keeled over at the horror of that thought.

Or how about…

“I Saw Mommy Kissing Brad Santa Claus”

You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. :-)

From Christy’s Alterman link

By way of comparison, Canadian and European young people are about as active sexually as Americans, but teenage American girls are five times as likely to have a baby as French girls, seven times as likely to have an abortion, and 70 times as likely to have gonorrhea as teenage girls in the Netherlands. In addition, the incidence of HIV/AIDS among American teenagers is five times that of the same age group in Germany.

Isn’t that the truth? Both very wreckless. Scary.

So sorry…but you have a moral duty to keep working to keep the library away from SMU. I write the Trustees every so often…at least the Divinity School energetically opposed it. Not all, however.

Gee, if you were a pharmacist or a doctor or a hospital, Airportcat, you could simply, and quite legally, refuse ’service’, as your conscience would be offended.

;~D

Actually, I do have the authority to close the runway … but I like my job and I really can’t do that without a good reason.

Like world-class criminals? Just a thought.

Lived in Dallas a few decades ago. There was a bakery at Preston/Royal that made great Chocalate Mousse.

Actually, I do have the authority to close the runway … but I like my job and I really can’t do that without a good reason.

interesting, according to bush himself and the laws he enacted, you have a right to follow your moral concience without fear of losing your job

now that would be poetic justice