Comments on: People Still Not Getting the Problem with Warren

By: bluebutterfly

bluebutterfly — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:52:53 +0000

one more try..if it doesn’t work..that is the title to look for over at opednews..The New National…etc.

http://www.opednews.com/articl.....0-712.html

By: bluebutterfly

bluebutterfly — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:45:21 +0000

There is a video of Michael Rogers discussing that fact on HARDBALL. Rogers is a gay rights activist.

http://www.blogactive.com/

By: bluebutterfly

bluebutterfly — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:40:50 +0000

Simple answer to that question. The focus on gays is a winnable one in the politician’s minds. It is a distraction so that nobody examines all of Warren’s platform too closely.

No mention in the MSM of Warren being chosen by Davos to replace Billy Graham. Read the story behind Warren…The New National Preacher..He’s “Davos” People.

http://www.opednews.com/articl.....0-712.html

By: PJEvans

PJEvans — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:20:27 +0000

The problem isn’t the history of marriage, it’s the people who insist that marriage has never changed, that it’s always been the way it was in the 50s and 60s, and can never change. Which is untrue, because we’ve seen it change.

I wonder what would happen to Rick Warren’s mind if he actually noticed that Jesus was a 30-year-old Jewish blue-collar worker, unmarried and hanging out only with guys, and a non-conformist to boot?

By: paz3

paz3 — Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:32:42 +0000

/snark Historically speaking, the “hebrewists” came up with marriage as we in the west know it. /snarkoff

The Ten Commandments, which refer to adultery and thus marriage - among other violations - were recorded as part of the salvation history of the people of Jacob/Israel and Joseph (who’s exile in Egypt led to the Hebrews being in Egypt in the first place) after the Exodus from Egypt. That took place a long time before any Christians existed.

Note that you won’t find any support for homosexual acts among Orthodox Jews (or Muslims), but that seems to escape mention among progressives.

Just trying to point out that marriage between man and woman has a long history as an established institution. Whether it’s time has passed is not for me to say, and I don’t imagine that it will be resolved much in my lifetime.

By: Cellar47

Cellar47 — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:06:38 +0000

Warren’s “work for AIDS victims” consisted of nothing more than getting them to convert to Chistianity and thus Pray Away the Gay.

That’s all he cares about, and to imply anything more is to perpetuate A FUCKING LIE!!!!!!

By: Margot

Margot — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:49:01 +0000

11 states nix gay marriage from 2004.

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:45:29 +0000

I totally agree! Thanks for saying this. I made this point on my blog recently and I also said Warren is a vile piece of crap, but can give the prayer on Barack’s inauguration day, because that doesn’t mean I’m going to suddenly become an evangelical by listening to him. What is going to happen is if Warren gives a prayer about unity etc., we will hold him to it. The fact that Warren removed that part of his website was a tiny breakthrough. A baby step. But it was good. ;-)

By: Primrose

Primrose — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:41:41 +0000

That’s funny — although I’m not sure you meant it to be. Glenn isn’t as happy as you are to have been used to make a point diametrically opposed to what he actually said.

Perhaps you need to read the updates — MSM is still lying about Brennan despite what Glenn or anyone else has said or written including Bloggers and Bloogers like Kurtz.

There’s no need to play Chamberlain now or ever. Maybe there’s a method to Obama’s pick (putting a spotlight on Warren so he has a tough time lying in the future & making him dependent on Obama for strokes and more spotlight time) but that doesn’t mean everyone agrees with the strategy — even if it’s true.

By: PJEvans

PJEvans — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:37:07 +0000

Shrub was not an effect of gay marriage, because it was not a major issue then. As you should know.