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		<title>By: bluebutterfly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769742</link>
		<dc:creator>bluebutterfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Philip Giraldi on Sibel, Turkey, Israel’ the Neocons and the MIC. Until the State Secrets gag is removed from Sibel Edmonds, the American citizens will not know how dirty their government is. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thestressblog.com/2006/05/10/philip-giraldi-on-sibel-turkey-israel-the-neocons-and-the-mic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://thestressblog.com/2006/.....d-the-mic/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip Giraldi on Sibel, Turkey, Israel’ the Neocons and the MIC. Until the State Secrets gag is removed from Sibel Edmonds, the American citizens will not know how dirty their government is. </p>
<p><a href="http://thestressblog.com/2006/05/10/philip-giraldi-on-sibel-turkey-israel-the-neocons-and-the-mic/" rel="nofollow">http://thestressblog.com/2006/&#8230;..d-the-mic/</a></p>
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		<title>By: bluebutterfly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769734</link>
		<dc:creator>bluebutterfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember that Kristol was the chairman of PNAC. Read it again, everybody, and view all ‘news’ with PNAC in mind. MSM is totally geared to promoting the agenda by lying to the American people. The snakes are still in power. One of the signers is the head of the Afghanistan government. How’s that working out for the world? The largest production of poppies in history. Who is arranging that? Who benefits?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Every person involved PNAC is a traitor to the US. The day to day smoke and mirrors, is just that, smoke and mirrors. The plan for taking over the world’s resources is in black and white for all to read. The US is a rogue state and the biggest funder of terror in the world. The following document explains how the US’s unconventional warfare is done. It is a 248 page PDF that was leaked to wikileaks. It has this on the front page..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Destruction Notice: Destroy by any method that will prevent disclosure of contents or reconstruction. Too late; it is on the web now!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Two points of interest that I will have to reread this document again later to find the page numbers for that refer to the media. They are a mention of paying politicians by ‘donations’ in order to get them to see things the governments way..the US politicians, that is. The other is destabilizing other governments; the first stage in the overthrow of other governments. The countries of interest noted for action at the present time are…Iran, N.Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela (page 148). When Chevez accuses the US government of trying to overthrow his government..believe him because they are.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wikileaks.org/leak/us-fm3-05-130.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wikileaks.org/leak/us-fm3-05-130.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that Kristol was the chairman of PNAC. Read it again, everybody, and view all ‘news’ with PNAC in mind. MSM is totally geared to promoting the agenda by lying to the American people. The snakes are still in power. One of the signers is the head of the Afghanistan government. How’s that working out for the world? The largest production of poppies in history. Who is arranging that? Who benefits?</p>
<p>Every person involved PNAC is a traitor to the US. The day to day smoke and mirrors, is just that, smoke and mirrors. The plan for taking over the world’s resources is in black and white for all to read. The US is a rogue state and the biggest funder of terror in the world. The following document explains how the US’s unconventional warfare is done. It is a 248 page PDF that was leaked to wikileaks. It has this on the front page..</p>
<p>Destruction Notice: Destroy by any method that will prevent disclosure of contents or reconstruction. Too late; it is on the web now!</p>
<p>Two points of interest that I will have to reread this document again later to find the page numbers for that refer to the media. They are a mention of paying politicians by ‘donations’ in order to get them to see things the governments way..the US politicians, that is. The other is destabilizing other governments; the first stage in the overthrow of other governments. The countries of interest noted for action at the present time are…Iran, N.Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela (page 148). When Chevez accuses the US government of trying to overthrow his government..believe him because they are.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wikileaks.org/leak/us-fm3-05-130.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikileaks.org/leak/us-fm3-05-130.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: RAMA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769477</link>
		<dc:creator>RAMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can’t they just fine him and call it good?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How about a Medal of Freedom? Seems sort of appropriate to me…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can’t they just fine him and call it good?</p>
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<p>How about a Medal of Freedom? Seems sort of appropriate to me…</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769409</link>
		<dc:creator>BigBob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this is a good one&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxtm5RF_6Ow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxtm5RF_6Ow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a good one<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxtm5RF_6Ow" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxtm5RF_6Ow</a></p>
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		<title>By: BigBob1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769392</link>
		<dc:creator>BigBob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Selise&lt;br /&gt;
Its been awhile, since i’ve been online .&lt;br /&gt;
Good to see some of the regular are still here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Selise<br />
Its been awhile, since i’ve been online .<br />
Good to see some of the regular are still here.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769389</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;As Israel continues its genocide of Palestinians (under the claim that they received rocket fire from Hamas &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What the Israelis are doing to the Gazans is normally called “collective punishment,” which is officially listed as “a crime against humanity.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As Israel continues its genocide of Palestinians (under the claim that they received rocket fire from Hamas </p>
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<p>What the Israelis are doing to the Gazans is normally called “collective punishment,” which is officially listed as “a crime against humanity.”</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769388</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you want to bury a big story, you put it out on a Friday after the close of business (and convince the MSM not to cover it).  I guess the same could be said of a crime.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to bury a big story, you put it out on a Friday after the close of business (and convince the MSM not to cover it).  I guess the same could be said of a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769383</link>
		<dc:creator>BigBob1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve researched CNN,MSNBC,ABC,CBS,FOX Online and not one has done the story.&lt;br /&gt;
Why?&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing&lt;br /&gt;
They could have aleast put out “MAN Dies in PLANE CRASH.&lt;br /&gt;
Without all the facts&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve researched CNN,MSNBC,ABC,CBS,FOX Online and not one has done the story.<br />
Why?<br />
Nothing<br />
They could have aleast put out “MAN Dies in PLANE CRASH.<br />
Without all the facts</p>
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		<title>By: plunger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769378</link>
		<dc:creator>plunger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As Israel continues its genocide of Palestinians (under the claim that they received rocket fire from Hamas (a branch of Mossad), it’s imperative to reveal the existence of their Hasbara program - and question everything it puts out:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are dozens (perhaps more) of such groups like MEMRI, CAMERA, HONESTREPORTING, and PRIMER which have the money and staff to spread what they call Hasbara (Hebrew for PR) to distort reality and intimidate and pressure people.  The Palestine Right to Return Coalition (Al-Awda.org) which Stein attacks has a very different mission and goals.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Congressman Paul Findley’s book “They Dare to Speak Out” explains many of these tactics of those who tried to suppress anyone who starts to tell the truth about US disastrous foreign policy in support of Israeli aparthied, occupation, and ethnic cleansing.  He also argues that the huge resources they put in this are needed because they are trying to suppress the truth; suppressing the truth needs far more resources and money.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For detailed studies of the fabrications of groups like CAMERA and MEMRI, visit:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,773258,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.guardian.co.uk/else.....58,00.html&lt;/a&gt; This is must reading about MEMRI and its “credibility”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1869.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1869.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article445.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article445.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article7.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article7.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abunimah.org/features/020815memri.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abunimah.org/features/020815memri.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://electronicintifada.net/features/mediaonmedia/20010821camera.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://electronicintifada.net/.....amera.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abunimah.org/features/000403camera.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.abunimah.org/features/000403camera.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://santacruz.indymedia.org/feature/display/13401/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://santacruz.indymedia.org...../index.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Israel continues its genocide of Palestinians (under the claim that they received rocket fire from Hamas (a branch of Mossad), it’s imperative to reveal the existence of their Hasbara program &#8211; and question everything it puts out:</p>
<p>There are dozens (perhaps more) of such groups like MEMRI, CAMERA, HONESTREPORTING, and PRIMER which have the money and staff to spread what they call Hasbara (Hebrew for PR) to distort reality and intimidate and pressure people.  The Palestine Right to Return Coalition (Al-Awda.org) which Stein attacks has a very different mission and goals.  </p>
<p>Congressman Paul Findley’s book “They Dare to Speak Out” explains many of these tactics of those who tried to suppress anyone who starts to tell the truth about US disastrous foreign policy in support of Israeli aparthied, occupation, and ethnic cleansing.  He also argues that the huge resources they put in this are needed because they are trying to suppress the truth; suppressing the truth needs far more resources and money.   </p>
<p>For detailed studies of the fabrications of groups like CAMERA and MEMRI, visit:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,773258,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/else&#8230;..58,00.html</a> This is must reading about MEMRI and its “credibility”<br /><a href="http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1869.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1869.shtml</a><br /><a href="http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article445.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article445.shtml</a><br /><a href="http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article7.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article7.shtml</a><br /><a href="http://www.abunimah.org/features/020815memri.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.abunimah.org/features/020815memri.html</a><br /><a href="http://electronicintifada.net/features/mediaonmedia/20010821camera.html" rel="nofollow">http://electronicintifada.net/&#8230;..amera.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.abunimah.org/features/000403camera.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.abunimah.org/features/000403camera.html</a><br /><a href="http://santacruz.indymedia.org/feature/display/13401/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://santacruz.indymedia.org&#8230;../index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/early-morning-swim-68/#comment-1769376</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;you can listen to it from 9am to 10am eastern time on wbai (in nyc and by &lt;a href=&quot;http://stream.wbai.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;webstream&lt;/a&gt; - it is even on the itunes public radio list)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the part of the program with mark crispin miller hasn’t started yet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can listen to it from 9am to 10am eastern time on wbai (in nyc and by <a href="http://stream.wbai.org/" rel="nofollow">webstream</a> &#8211; it is even on the itunes public radio list)</p>
<p>the part of the program with mark crispin miller hasn’t started yet.</p>
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