Ginourmous head talking head Bill Kristol loves the way Dick Cheney is going out defending justice.

I wonder if he’ll be just as thrilled if the Department of Justice investigates torture and follows the fact wherever they lead.

Kinsley’s article on Caroline Kennedy is hysterical. Basically sez the system for appointing pols sucks, so we should continue to do the same thing with Caroline. Guess ego replaces brains with talking heads.

Don’t hold your breath.

OT:

BIDEN: … President-elect Obama and I are not sitting thinking about
the past. We’re focusing on the future. Obviously, that if the
Justice…

STEPHANOPOULOS: But should the cases be reviewed?

BIDEN: Well, that’s a decision I’d look to the Justice Department to
make.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you’re not ruling it out at this point?

BIDEN: I’m not ruling it in and not ruling it out. I just think we
should look forward. I think we should be looking forward, not
backwards.

Those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it. Failure to prosecute crime is condoning it.

I think that Obama/Biden are hoping to repeat the power play that W made possible.

IOKIYPOTRE – It’s okay if you’re part of the ruling elite.

There’s a much more insightful article about Caroline Kennedy here:

“The Populist Case for Caroline Kennedy”
http://narcosphere.narconews.c…..ne-kennedy

The Democrats should start taking notes on how a real opposition party works. The Republicans are politically deadlier on defense than they are on offense (but, thankfully, a diminished danger to themselves and others).

Cheney really is the schoolyard bully here – he’s just itching for someone to take a swing at him.

if anyone does, do they live to tell the tale?

Yupper.

Exactly. They keep on wanting to be nice, as if they think that’ll get them brownie points with the GOP/Media Complex. It won’t.

Right now on democracynow there’s someone talking about how suspicious the plane crash was for Rove’s IT guy.

Dick Cheney is fair game.

They keep on wanting to be nice…

And they don’t even succeed at that. Maybe they should spend more time in Minnesota. ;-)

Mr. Kristol:

Justice is going to track your traitorous ass down and reveal your role in the PNAC conspiracy and all that has followed – to the benefit of a country other than our own.

Being nice to thugs and bullies has never worked.

if only

What’s left to reveal? Kristol has been positively glowing as to his part in this fiasco. His complaint is that putting his ideas into reality was executed sloppily or not at all.

Why should we be “forward looking”, aka ignore potential crimes of our political leaders who authorized and ordered torture, and not be “forward looking”, aka ignore Bernard Madoff who, via a ponzi scheme ripped off Americans for more the $50 billion?

What’s left to do is to continue to talk about it relentlessly in forums like these, using evidence and facts to back up our assertions, until the MSM is humiliated into covering the story and a point of recognition is reached by the majority of Americans. We cannot allow these rat bastards to rewrite history without a fight.

http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com

Punishing these people should be part of forward.

Exactly! “We should be looking forward, not backward,” is such disingenuous bullshit. It’s a one-liner that sounds relevant, when in fact it’s nearly meaningless.

The law requires three rear-view mirrors on every car in the country, and it’s damn dangerous to fail to use them. A special prosecutor is a rear-view mirror. Is Obama going to drive the country without one?

Actually, Kristol takes credit for the thinking of others. Rebuilding America’s Defenses was a collaboration of many neocons. Kristol put it together and became it’s leading shill.

Yup! I’m looking forward to them going to jail.

BRING ‘EM TO JUSTICE!

Where is the AIPAC Spy Trial? Remember the Franklin/AIPAC spying incident?

Where is the trial against AIPAC’s operatives for their direct role in Espionage against the United States?

If you have been wondering what has happened to the other Israeli spies who are currently in court or facing trial at some future point, you are not alone. The trial of American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) officials Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman has been dragging on for more than three years. The two men were arrested together with Pentagon official Col. Lawrence Franklin under the Espionage Act of 1917, which defines espionage in legal terms as “injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign country.” Franklin had taken classified Pentagon documents dealing with Iran policy and had shared them with the two AIPAC officials, who in turn provided them to the Israeli embassy in Washington and to the media to support the case for going to war with Tehran.

Predictably, many in the media and the neocon establishment criticized the arrests, commenting that such exchanges of “information” are routine in Washington and that Israel is a good friend that needs the classified intelligence for its own security. Israel and its lobby do, in fact, enjoy a unique status among foreign lobbies operating in the United States. President John F. Kennedy tried to force the lobby to register in the early 1960s under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, but his efforts foundered with his death. Since that time, attempts to make AIPAC and other Israeli lobbies register have been repeatedly stymied due to unwillingness to proceed on the part of the Justice Department.

Larry Franklin pleaded guilty to unauthorized disclosure of classified information in January 2006, was sentenced to 151 months in prison, and paid a $10,000 fine. He is now doing time in a federal prison. Rosen and Weissman, whose legal fees are being paid by AIPAC, are free on bail. Their case winds on, seemingly interminably, confirming the old adage that justice delayed is justice denied. The media is no longer reporting on the trial, and many believe that it will be allowed to drag on and eventually will be dismissed on procedural grounds to avoid embarrassing either AIPAC or the Israeli government. The court in Alexandria presided over by Judge Thomas Ellis has frequently ruled in favor of the accused and seems content to let the process drag on indefinitely. Ellis is currently seeking to determine what classified information will be allowed as evidence, a key judgment that will affect both the defense and the prosecution.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/gi…..leid=13906

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

The only way that’s gonna happen is if Congress tells Obama to take a hike on not looking back.

“What is amazing about this case isn’t just the long delay in the legal proceedings, but the brazenness of the accused: they openly proclaim their guilt – that is, they admit to the actions detailed in the indictment – while maintaining that they did absolutely nothing wrong. Spying? Who – us? Why, we were just exercising our “First Amendment rights” like any journalist out to get a scoop.

With one big difference, though: legitimate journalists don’t report their findings – classified sensitive purloined information – to the intelligence agencies of foreign nations.”

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13819

Ask Kristol about the AIPAC spy trial.

David Swanson is not happy with the forward thing..

http://www.democraticundergrou…..15;4699506

FAULTY MEMRI

HUDSON INSTITUTE…

Meyrav Wurmser, an opponent of the Oslo peace accords and a central neoconservative figure.

In 1996 she helped write “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm” and advised then-Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “to work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll-back” regional threats, help overthrow Saddam Hussein, and strike “Syrian military targets in Lebanon” and possibly in Syria proper. Coauthors of the report included Richard Perle, David Wurmser, and Douglas Feith.

She also cofounded with Yigal Carmon, a former colonel in the Israeli military intelligence, the Middle East Media and Research Institute (MEMRI).

According to her Hudson Institute bio, Wurmser “helped to educate policymakers about the Palestinian Authority two-track approach to ‘negotiating peace’ with Israel: calling for peace in the English press and with western policymakers while inciting hatred and violence through official Arab language media.”

Although it describes itself as “non-partisan,” MEMRI–which has offices in London, Washington, Jerusalem, and Berlin–has frequently been accused of being nothing more than a propaganda outfit of Israeli intelligence.

According the Guardian, which dug up deleted pages from MEMRI’s web site through the internet archive, “Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri’s website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three–including [Yigal] Carmon–are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence. Among the other three, one served in the Israeli army’s Northern Command Ordnance Corps.”

The Guardian’s Brian Whitaker also reported: “Although Memri claims that it does provide translations from Hebrew media, I can’t recall receiving any. Evidence from Memri’s website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status.

Besides supporting liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market, the institute also emphasises ‘the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel’. That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives.”

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1394

Hi Pups
Here’s A video by channel 19 on MIKE CONNELL and to my surprize they say Foul Play .
its after the ad.

http://www.woio.com/global/vid…..d=97520761

Glenzilla is not happy with the forward thing:

War crimes, Jackson observed, are such that “civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated.” And, contrary to the blatantly self-contradictory claims from today’s Washington elite, he pointed out that the only way to ensure they don’t happen again is through real accountability and punishment:

The common sense of mankind demands that law shall not stop with the punishment of petty crimes by little people. It must also reach men who possess themselves of great power . . . .

It’s irrelevant whether crimes rise to that same level or are of the same magnitude. These were principles of justice that were supposed to endure and govern how we conducted ourselves generally, beyond that specific case. In fact, Justice Louis Brandeis, 20 years earlier, observed that it’s probably more important — not less — to enforce the rule of law when government leaders commit crimes than when ordinary Americans commit them:

In a government of law, the existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.

We haven’t just forgotten these principles. We’re deliberately — consciously — choosing to renounce them.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html

democracynow did a segment on it this morning.

W is taking a victory lap around Walter Reed today.

“The CDI’s Ledeen, Amitay and Sobhani were featured speakers at a May 2003 forum on “the future of Iran’ sponsored by AEI, the Hudson Institute and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. The forum, chaired by the Hudson Institute’s Meyrav Wurmser, the Israeli-born wife of David Wurmser (he serves as Cheney’s leading expert on Iran and Syria), included a presentation by Un Lubrani of Israel’s Ministry of Defense.

Summarizing the sentiment of neoconservative ideologues and strategists, Meyrav Wurmser said: “Our fight against Iraq was only a battle in a long war. It would be ill-conceived to think we can deal with Iraq alone. We must move on, and faster.”

JINSA, a neoconservative organization established in 1976 that fosters closer strategic and military ties between the United States and Israel, also has its sights on Iran. At a JINSA policy forum in April 2003 titled “Time to Focus on Iran-The Mother of Modern Terrorism,” Ledeen declared, “The time for diplomacy is at an end; it is time for a free Iran, free Syria and free Lebanon.”

JINSA, along with CSP, serves as one of the main institutional links to the military-industrial complex for neoconservatives. Ledeen served as JINSA’s first executive director and was JINSA’s “Godfather,” according to Amitay. Amitay is a JINSA vice chair. JINSA board members or advisers also include former CIA director James Woolsey, former Rep. Jack Kemp and the AEI’s Joshua Muravchik. After he joined the administration, Feith resigned from JINSA.’s board of advisers, as did Vice President Dick Cheney and Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton.”

http://www.thirdworldtraveler……_Next.html

Wow, i missed it.
Drip, drip, drip.
Thank-you, now off to see if its online yet
Ps all other pups who missed democracynow
Check it out.
http://www.woio.com/global/vid…..d=97520761

democracynow typically takes an hour or two before it gets it’s program online.

Just went back on democracynow website & apparently they rebroadcast their live 8-9 ET from 9-10ET. I think the segment on Connell was the second 20 minutes.

you can listen to it from 9am to 10am eastern time on wbai (in nyc and by webstream – it is even on the itunes public radio list)

the part of the program with mark crispin miller hasn’t started yet.

As Israel continues its genocide of Palestinians (under the claim that they received rocket fire from Hamas (a branch of Mossad), it’s imperative to reveal the existence of their Hasbara program – and question everything it puts out:

There are dozens (perhaps more) of such groups like MEMRI, CAMERA, HONESTREPORTING, and PRIMER which have the money and staff to spread what they call Hasbara (Hebrew for PR) to distort reality and intimidate and pressure people. The Palestine Right to Return Coalition (Al-Awda.org) which Stein attacks has a very different mission and goals.

Congressman Paul Findley’s book “They Dare to Speak Out” explains many of these tactics of those who tried to suppress anyone who starts to tell the truth about US disastrous foreign policy in support of Israeli aparthied, occupation, and ethnic cleansing. He also argues that the huge resources they put in this are needed because they are trying to suppress the truth; suppressing the truth needs far more resources and money.

For detailed studies of the fabrications of groups like CAMERA and MEMRI, visit:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/else…..58,00.html This is must reading about MEMRI and its “credibility”
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1869.shtml
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article445.shtml
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article7.shtml
http://www.abunimah.org/features/020815memri.html
http://electronicintifada.net/…..amera.html
http://www.abunimah.org/features/000403camera.html
http://santacruz.indymedia.org…../index.php

I’ve researched CNN,MSNBC,ABC,CBS,FOX Online and not one has done the story.
Why?
Nothing
They could have aleast put out “MAN Dies in PLANE CRASH.
Without all the facts

If you want to bury a big story, you put it out on a Friday after the close of business (and convince the MSM not to cover it). I guess the same could be said of a crime.

As Israel continues its genocide of Palestinians (under the claim that they received rocket fire from Hamas

What the Israelis are doing to the Gazans is normally called “collective punishment,” which is officially listed as “a crime against humanity.”

Thanks Selise
Its been awhile, since i’ve been online .
Good to see some of the regular are still here.

this is a good one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxtm5RF_6Ow

Can’t they just fine him and call it good?

How about a Medal of Freedom? Seems sort of appropriate to me…

Remember that Kristol was the chairman of PNAC. Read it again, everybody, and view all ‘news’ with PNAC in mind. MSM is totally geared to promoting the agenda by lying to the American people. The snakes are still in power. One of the signers is the head of the Afghanistan government. How’s that working out for the world? The largest production of poppies in history. Who is arranging that? Who benefits?

Every person involved PNAC is a traitor to the US. The day to day smoke and mirrors, is just that, smoke and mirrors. The plan for taking over the world’s resources is in black and white for all to read. The US is a rogue state and the biggest funder of terror in the world. The following document explains how the US’s unconventional warfare is done. It is a 248 page PDF that was leaked to wikileaks. It has this on the front page..

Destruction Notice: Destroy by any method that will prevent disclosure of contents or reconstruction. Too late; it is on the web now!

Two points of interest that I will have to reread this document again later to find the page numbers for that refer to the media. They are a mention of paying politicians by ‘donations’ in order to get them to see things the governments way..the US politicians, that is. The other is destabilizing other governments; the first stage in the overthrow of other governments. The countries of interest noted for action at the present time are…Iran, N.Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela (page 148). When Chevez accuses the US government of trying to overthrow his government..believe him because they are.

http://www.wikileaks.org/leak/us-fm3-05-130.pdf

Philip Giraldi on Sibel, Turkey, Israel’ the Neocons and the MIC. Until the State Secrets gag is removed from Sibel Edmonds, the American citizens will not know how dirty their government is.

http://thestressblog.com/2006/…..d-the-mic/