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	<title>Comments on: BigFooting Matt Yglesias</title>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769667</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to his update, Yglesias just posted the message from Palmieri himself, without putting a preamble on it like “here’s something from my editor.”  So it’s his fault after all anyways.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to his update, Yglesias just posted the message from Palmieri himself, without putting a preamble on it like “here’s something from my editor.”  So it’s his fault after all anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Otay</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769664</link>
		<dc:creator>Otay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was fond of this response from Ted:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We should google-bomb Third Way, so that when you enter&lt;br /&gt;
“hyper-timid incrementalist bullshit” in Google,&lt;br /&gt;
Third Way’s website is the first one that comes up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fond of this response from Ted:</p>
<blockquote><p>We should google-bomb Third Way, so that when you enter<br />
“hyper-timid incrementalist bullshit” in Google,<br />
Third Way’s website is the first one that comes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Synoia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769628</link>
		<dc:creator>Synoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Except for one small issue. What to do with Brussels, which is very mixed. The good news is they have agreed to disagree, and are not shooting at each other.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except for one small issue. What to do with Brussels, which is very mixed. The good news is they have agreed to disagree, and are not shooting at each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Synoia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769625</link>
		<dc:creator>Synoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The “Center-Right” applied to Obama’s position on things, seems to reflect the inside the Beltway consensus more than the electorate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And these people are agents of change?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All, Please read “The Prince.” Especially the chapter on “Change”. Change is hard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “Center-Right” applied to Obama’s position on things, seems to reflect the inside the Beltway consensus more than the electorate.</p>
<p>And these people are agents of change?</p>
<p>All, Please read “The Prince.” Especially the chapter on “Change”. Change is hard.</p>
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		<title>By: wcrockett</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769597</link>
		<dc:creator>wcrockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;make that “in response to 45″&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>make that “in response to 45″</p>
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		<title>By: wcrockett</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769595</link>
		<dc:creator>wcrockett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In response to 46 — It’s not at all clear that that was Yglesias writing the comment. If it was, that’s unfortunate, because CAP really should not have the right to edit Matt’s blog in any way other than being sure the spelling is correct and there’s no obvious slander or libel. If he’s signed up for more invasive editing than that, he’s lost me. That’s why he’s really got to clear this up today. Or Palmieri does.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to 46 — It’s not at all clear that that was Yglesias writing the comment. If it was, that’s unfortunate, because CAP really should not have the right to edit Matt’s blog in any way other than being sure the spelling is correct and there’s no obvious slander or libel. If he’s signed up for more invasive editing than that, he’s lost me. That’s why he’s really got to clear this up today. Or Palmieri does.</p>
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		<title>By: ojintoad</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769577</link>
		<dc:creator>ojintoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agree to all your points.  But what’s also important is understanding why this would qualify as an instance of the Streisand Effect - the method of attempting censorship was over the top for the infraction.  Why would you post a *whole new post* that draws attention to a lukewarm post.  I would wonder if anyone would have paid attention to this if the attempt to censor had called attention to itself so absurdly.  And that’s why Atrios and many others are calling attention to this as whining.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I kindof think that Atrios and others might have not even noticed if they had simply posted a small update to the original post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree to all your points.  But what’s also important is understanding why this would qualify as an instance of the Streisand Effect &#8211; the method of attempting censorship was over the top for the infraction.  Why would you post a *whole new post* that draws attention to a lukewarm post.  I would wonder if anyone would have paid attention to this if the attempt to censor had called attention to itself so absurdly.  And that’s why Atrios and many others are calling attention to this as whining.</p>
<p>I kindof think that Atrios and others might have not even noticed if they had simply posted a small update to the original post.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Partridge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769569</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Matt clears things up in &lt;a href=&quot;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/12/sweet_bailout.php#comment-941208&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a comment:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
There’s no big conspiracy or sinister machinations going on here. I had been mistaken about certain of Third Way’s policies and practices, and Jennifer Palmieri dealt with the situation in a timely and appropriate manner while I was away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Though the CAP management has graciously provided me with a soapbox to spout off as I please, in fact my posts appear here at their sole discretion. They have a perfect right to make edits to my blog posts before, during, or after posting. The fact that they have never made edits to my post beforehand is more a function of the practicalities of doing so (submitting my posts to a lengthy editorial process would obviously slow down posting prohibitively) than of any kind of “editorial control” on my part over this blog. It’s simple: I don’t have any.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I decided to join CAP and become active in the progressive movement, there were admittedly certain freedoms I gave up. But it’s more than worth it in order to have the opportunity to partner with movers and shakers like John Podesta, the incoming Obama administration, and yes, even organizations like Third Way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And by the way, the suggestion that Third Way is engaged in any improper behavior vis-a-vis their tax status is just outrageous and borderline defamatory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt clears things up in <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/12/sweet_bailout.php#comment-941208" rel="nofollow">a comment:<br /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
There’s no big conspiracy or sinister machinations going on here. I had been mistaken about certain of Third Way’s policies and practices, and Jennifer Palmieri dealt with the situation in a timely and appropriate manner while I was away.</p>
<p>Though the CAP management has graciously provided me with a soapbox to spout off as I please, in fact my posts appear here at their sole discretion. They have a perfect right to make edits to my blog posts before, during, or after posting. The fact that they have never made edits to my post beforehand is more a function of the practicalities of doing so (submitting my posts to a lengthy editorial process would obviously slow down posting prohibitively) than of any kind of “editorial control” on my part over this blog. It’s simple: I don’t have any.</p>
<p>When I decided to join CAP and become active in the progressive movement, there were admittedly certain freedoms I gave up. But it’s more than worth it in order to have the opportunity to partner with movers and shakers like John Podesta, the incoming Obama administration, and yes, even organizations like Third Way.</p>
<p>And by the way, the suggestion that Third Way is engaged in any improper behavior vis-a-vis their tax status is just outrageous and borderline defamatory.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769566</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The DLC Third way types are monitoring what we say even a small post with 14 comments! They are worried they felt the need to reply to this they are scared!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DLC Third way types are monitoring what we say even a small post with 14 comments! They are worried they felt the need to reply to this they are scared!</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/22/bigfooting-matt-yglesias/#comment-1769564</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I heard that Belgium may actually split up into a northern Flemish state and a Southern Walloon entity…with possibilities of joining with surrounding ethnic areas. Belgium was always a fragile bi-ethnic national structure. The economic crisis has amplified tensions there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that Belgium may actually split up into a northern Flemish state and a Southern Walloon entity…with possibilities of joining with surrounding ethnic areas. Belgium was always a fragile bi-ethnic national structure. The economic crisis has amplified tensions there.</p>
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