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	<title>Comments on: Somebody Needs to Serve a Subpoena on Ole Fourth Branch, in a Hurry</title>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/somebody-needs-to-serve-a-subpoena-on-ole-fourth-branch-in-a-hurry/#comment-1767360</link>
		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That was snark right? In case it wasn’t–most of the information we have about the structure and persoanlled of Al Quadia, we had back in the mid-late 1990’s and it was found out by Dave Kelley and Pat Fitzgerald using regular law enforcemnt investigation techniques. Not tortutre.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was snark right? In case it wasn’t–most of the information we have about the structure and persoanlled of Al Quadia, we had back in the mid-late 1990’s and it was found out by Dave Kelley and Pat Fitzgerald using regular law enforcemnt investigation techniques. Not tortutre.</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/somebody-needs-to-serve-a-subpoena-on-ole-fourth-branch-in-a-hurry/#comment-1767357</link>
		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thuink those are both good arguments that I would be very comfortable making in court. It is not settled that either of those arguments would win, no matter how much I wish they would.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I would LOVE to have a chance to make those arguments&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thuink those are both good arguments that I would be very comfortable making in court. It is not settled that either of those arguments would win, no matter how much I wish they would.</p>
<p>I would LOVE to have a chance to make those arguments</p>
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		<title>By: looseheadprop</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/somebody-needs-to-serve-a-subpoena-on-ole-fourth-branch-in-a-hurry/#comment-1767352</link>
		<dc:creator>looseheadprop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I actually prefer comparing Cheney to Voldermort. But the Darth thing stuck, so whatcha gonna do?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually prefer comparing Cheney to Voldermort. But the Darth thing stuck, so whatcha gonna do?</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/somebody-needs-to-serve-a-subpoena-on-ole-fourth-branch-in-a-hurry/#comment-1767255</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wasn’t the news all crazy abt a doc one of Clinton’s people took?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn’t the news all crazy abt a doc one of Clinton’s people took?</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/somebody-needs-to-serve-a-subpoena-on-ole-fourth-branch-in-a-hurry/#comment-1767252</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is destroying gov documents or gov property a crime?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is destroying gov documents or gov property a crime?</p>
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		<title>By: Hmmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ya got us.  Us liberal democrats, we’re really a criminal atheistic cabal, controlled by al Queda using Teh Internets, Comedy Central, Teh Unions, tweedy college professors with afros, and MSNBC.  All of us, every last one, coordinating in perfect secrecy.  We’re lazy-sponge authoritarian followers dedicated solely to leeching money from America’s Most Virtuous, i.e. upper management and corporate owners.  We believe in dragging America down and violently instituting a One World Communist Government by diluting our national Purity Of Essence through miscegenation with unchecked immigrants whom we plan to house by confiscating the houses of conservatives and republicans and churchgoers everywhere, and then turning every last one of you out to the fields to harvest our organically grown veggies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And we would have gotten away with it too, &lt;em&gt;if it hadn’t been for you medding ocaster!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya got us.  Us liberal democrats, we’re really a criminal atheistic cabal, controlled by al Queda using Teh Internets, Comedy Central, Teh Unions, tweedy college professors with afros, and MSNBC.  All of us, every last one, coordinating in perfect secrecy.  We’re lazy-sponge authoritarian followers dedicated solely to leeching money from America’s Most Virtuous, i.e. upper management and corporate owners.  We believe in dragging America down and violently instituting a One World Communist Government by diluting our national Purity Of Essence through miscegenation with unchecked immigrants whom we plan to house by confiscating the houses of conservatives and republicans and churchgoers everywhere, and then turning every last one of you out to the fields to harvest our organically grown veggies.</p>
<p>And we would have gotten away with it too, <em>if it hadn’t been for you medding ocaster!</em></p>
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		<title>By: ocaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh I’m misinformed?&lt;br /&gt;
You’ve probably been spoon fed this drivel from your professors at one of our fine Institutions of higher learning… or you’re the one holding the spoon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t forget your lovely parting gifts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I’m misinformed?<br />
You’ve probably been spoon fed this drivel from your professors at one of our fine Institutions of higher learning… or you’re the one holding the spoon.</p>
<p>Don’t forget your lovely parting gifts.</p>
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		<title>By: lokywoky</title>
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		<dc:creator>lokywoky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nice try, America always has to step in and do the real work that the UN was chartered to do.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, we ignore the UN mostly until we can USE it for our own nefarious purposes.  We don’t pay our dues.  We veto anything that might help any other country but ours.  We refuse to sign on to or participate in anything that might, you know, actually help people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re a real team player all right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And you are one as well.  A member of the team of the most misinformed shills making up less than 23% of the population.  I’m sure you get all your info from fair and balanced Faux Snooze.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for playing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nice try, America always has to step in and do the real work that the UN was chartered to do.</p>
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<p>Yeah, we ignore the UN mostly until we can USE it for our own nefarious purposes.  We don’t pay our dues.  We veto anything that might help any other country but ours.  We refuse to sign on to or participate in anything that might, you know, actually help people.</p>
<p>We’re a real team player all right.</p>
<p>And you are one as well.  A member of the team of the most misinformed shills making up less than 23% of the population.  I’m sure you get all your info from fair and balanced Faux Snooze.</p>
<p>Thank you for playing.</p>
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		<title>By: lokywoky</title>
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		<dc:creator>lokywoky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You forgot :&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;________________dead people from anthrax attacks in DC and NYC after 9/11&lt;br /&gt;
________________dead contractors from the US and many other countries&lt;br /&gt;
________________dead soldiers from the UK and other partners in the coalition of the willing&lt;br /&gt;
________________dead soldiers from suicides after multiple deployments and no mental health care for them when they come home.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot :</p>
<p>________________dead people from anthrax attacks in DC and NYC after 9/11<br />
________________dead contractors from the US and many other countries<br />
________________dead soldiers from the UK and other partners in the coalition of the willing<br />
________________dead soldiers from suicides after multiple deployments and no mental health care for them when they come home.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/19/somebody-needs-to-serve-a-subpoena-on-ole-fourth-branch-in-a-hurry/#comment-1766562</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Look at how much government business this White House poured through the RNC and its computers.  We can expect them to claim that all those data flows are “partisan” and, hence, are outside the reach of the PRA and related judicial orders.  Such arguments would be intended to obscure that the Act applies to records of governmental business regardless of who carries out that business.  The bottom line for these guys is that it’s all partisan, all the time; there is no “government business” apart from partisan business.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Vice doesn’t feel obligated to follow laws the breach of which carry the death penalty, such as war crimes legislation.  Why would he bother with a law the violation of which carries no penalty?  Which is why court orders, etc., are necessary, to supplement that law.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Until now, the PRA’s obligations were deemed so obvious, it didn’t need teeth.  I guess Congress ought to think again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at how much government business this White House poured through the RNC and its computers.  We can expect them to claim that all those data flows are “partisan” and, hence, are outside the reach of the PRA and related judicial orders.  Such arguments would be intended to obscure that the Act applies to records of governmental business regardless of who carries out that business.  The bottom line for these guys is that it’s all partisan, all the time; there is no “government business” apart from partisan business.  </p>
<p>Mr. Vice doesn’t feel obligated to follow laws the breach of which carry the death penalty, such as war crimes legislation.  Why would he bother with a law the violation of which carries no penalty?  Which is why court orders, etc., are necessary, to supplement that law.  </p>
<p>Until now, the PRA’s obligations were deemed so obvious, it didn’t need teeth.  I guess Congress ought to think again.</p>
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