What a novel concept, scientists in charge for a change…!

NPR news on the hour just announced Mark Felt has died.

Three times they used the word infamous in referring to Mr Felt, then used the term ratted out in reference to his disclosures.

Dayam Lurk, I dove into the Warren thread again… Whew, a lot verbiage was spewed by both sides…! ;-)

What a novel concept, dismaying conservatives for a change!!! And no wonder…scientists in charge…experts instead of ideologues…
[gentle Snoopy dance]

FunnyD

HEY!!!
I resemble that remark!!!

FunnyD

It took me a sec, but, Deep Throat, eh? R.I.P.!

I only got up to the 300’s too…! 400 more to go…! ;-)

Dear Santa
I’ve been pretty good this year. Instead of a Pony, I’d like to have some actual, credible journalists in charge of public broadcasting.
Please? Please with tree-shaped sugar cookies on top?
Love
FunnyD

Now, didn’t I warn you about starting at the beginning, hmmmmm?
Long Night on Bald Mountain, huh?

FunnyD

Whooo hoo!

You can tell? ;-)

Citizen CTuttle:

I lounged around the main room and kept comin back ta check things out until it got ta 730 somethin’ in the comments…ya know, I think that those trolls were the best thing that coulda happened right now to our brother and sister Firepups ‘cuz there was sooooo much long term stress built up and we were gettin’ tired a chewin on our own socks, so ta speak…it was great ta see ol’ Raven taken his mental stilletto to a couple of the gobblins…now he ken go ta his football game and go fishin in the hills and not take a lotta shit with ‘im.

We’re taking our time loading up on account of da fog!

I’m in there too.. You’re ahead of me.

Citizen SunnyNobility:

Yeah N(ational)P(etroleum)R(adio)…breaks my heart ta see what slashin’ public fundin’ and 8 years of fascist management did to one of the best public broadcasting systems in the world.

uh oh. Would that be freezing fog where you are?
FunnyDiva
very tired of anything freezing this week.

It was funny last night when the Dragon realized the Scarecrow was a Gerry Owen Vet and the conversation degenerated into a conversation about the relative merits of the M-16 and M-14! (much to the horror of many)

Appointments to Corp for Public Broadcasting need serious attention. Not sure how it works, betcha Barbara knows.

Citizen Raven:

Hey there Bro…thoughtcha would be long gone by now…you surely had tooooo much fun this afternoon with the poor mentally challenged Christianists. Whatcha fishin’ for when ya get there?

Uh oh, Sunny
sounds like the vino mellowed ya out right fine!
FunnyD

Good point! Oops, back outside I go… Why does it seem like it’s takes an eternity outside and it flies by inside…? Ta ta…!

56 here i Athens, looks like the real mess wll stay north of Virginia and the forecast is for 50 and clear in Salem for the tilt tomorrow. Go Warhawks!

I knew I went to bed much too early!
You veteran Veteran Firepups got some good troll-smacking in yesterday, too, iirc.
FunnyD

Stripers really hit this time of year and the word is there is a big bore cat or two available. It’s a 7 hr drive but should be good. Here’s the lay of the land

Have fun! Sounds like Teh Tropics to me.
FunnyD

peace on ya Dawgs

Citizen Raven:

LOL….oh man and I missed it…was the ‘crowman gettin’ down for the M14? It was a heavy bastard but plenty reliable…I fired an M16 a couple a times but carried a’14 when they sent me into the field with the First Log trainers ta teach ARVN medics.

Raven, someone recently said they were at Dong Tam, was that you?

Citizen Raven:

Oh man…that’s some nice country…you aren’t comin’ back ta “civilization” real soon are ya (I sure wouldn’t). Mrs. Norske and I are takin the two daughters back ta Negril for 8 days on the 26th and I might come back but we’ve been threatenin’ ta send the kids home and jest bunker up on the beach until the sun makes us unrecognizable.

Hope the Whitewater kids ken get the job done…UMD took the DII title…midwest is lookin good these days.

Geeze, I can’t get out of here! I was in a signal outfit that had shots (facilities) all over the delta Dong Tam, Vihn Long, Can Tho, Sa Dec. I was a sorry ass truck driver runnin up and down the road you can see in “The Lover”.

Norkse, last time I was in Negril was when Elvis died. Stayed in Perserverance with the Jackson Family and ate conch chowder next door. The first time you could only stay up on Red Ground. I’m sure it’s as much like it was then as Korea is now compared to 67!

I’m pretty mellow :-)

NPR news on again re: Felt – now they’ve eliminated “infamous” and “ratted out.” Too clever by half.

Oh. Did they substitute some even worse smear? Ida thought getting rid of the “ifamous” and “ratted out” would’ve been a good thing.

FunnyD

The Pentagon has been ordered to draw up plans for the closure of Guantanamo.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..osure.html

Good morning, pups. It’s Warner and Krugman today. Judith Warner, in “Getting Beyond Camelot,” says Caroline Kennedy is a very capable woman, but that doesn’t mean she should be handed Hillary Clinton’s soon-to-be-vacated United States Senate seat. Mr. Krugman, in “The Madoff Economy,” says the vast riches achieved by those who managed other people’s money have had a corrupting effect on our society as a whole.

Here they are.

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got banana pancakes today. It looks like we’re in for another warm day, approaching 80. It’s disconcerting to sit out in the back yard in shirt sleeves the week before Christmas. I’ll probably never get used to it… Have a great day.

NPR Maine and NH both have bloody talk shows all afternoon. Idiots from red states with no brains and nothing else to do but blabber on a radio. Classical music, what’s that?

We used to give to them both but now give to Amy instead.

I guess the pres gets to appoint idiots to the board of NPR and it is supposed to be “balanced” but then balanced has a whole new meaning since…. well you know when.

Mr. Krugman, in “The Madoff Economy,” says the vast riches achieved by those who managed other people’s money have had a corrupting effect on our society as a whole.

I assume he means society with money, the rest of us a struggling too much to be corrupt.

Hot chocky please and heavy on the maple slurp.

About damn time…!

…the vast riches achieved by those who managed other people’s money have had a corrupting effect on our society as a whole.

Ya think? Morning, Ma’am! ;-)

Heh, hard to be poor and corrupt…! ;-)

I’m with you on the idiots. I’m still in shock from this Harris Poll. Great reason to consider emigration…

80% of adult Americans believe in God – unchanged since the last time we asked the question in 2005. Large majorities of the public believe in miracles (75%), heaven (73%), angels (71%), that Jesus is God or the Son of God (71%), the resurrection of Jesus (70%), the survival of the soul after death (68%), hell (62%), the Virgin birth (Jesus born of Mary (61%) and the devil (59%).
Slightly more people – but both are minorities – believe in Darwin’s theory of evolution (47%) than in creationism (40%).
Sizeable minorities believe in ghosts (44%), UFOs (36%), witches (31%), astrology (31%), and reincarnation (24%)

.

This is not religion bashing, I want to add. See the poll fopr clarification. The findings are stunning.

dismayed conservatives but heartened environmentalists and researchers.

but…but…..but…….*everything* is *always* good for republicans…

New Years Prediction: Confirmation hearings for all of obama’s nominees will become free-for-all muck racking events.

Pardon my “bah, humbug” attitude this morning. :-(

Heh, Ya gotta have Faith… ;-)

Citizen Raven:

Flew in ta Siagon and bused down ta the Long Bin repodepo…pulled guard duty fer 2 nights instead of burnin’ shit durin the day until orders came down…those roads thru the old plantations..I had no idea what I was into…would like ta go back some day…wanna see the Highlands again…hope we didn’t fuck the jungle up too badly with AO ( we sure did fuck up a lotta troops and Viets with the stuff).

You bailed early on the Warren thread, Wacca…!

Citizen nonplussed:

at least 75% of those responding lied ‘cuz they didn’t wanna be on the wrong side a things when their number came up and of course couldn’t stand the pressure if they admitted they didn’t believe in that bull shit.

You’re right of course, in the sense that they did clean it up.

But they regularly slip that kind of crap into late breaking news – particularly in the middle of the night. Cleaning it up later doesn’t unring the bell. Probably would help justify it in the unlikely event they were called on it. Heat of the moment and all that, ya know.

I only notice because I keep their classical feed on pretty much 24/7.

Norske, you missed this troll that showed up on Scarecrow’s thread…

SoldierofChrist December 17th, 2008 at 9:31 am
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I guess some PEOPLE forgot that the world was such as dangerous when Bill was in charge. How strange that everyone is so fast in knocking down a man who tried to stop madness from arriving at our shores. They probably forgot what we did to Germany, or Japan for the sake of the freedoms that they are cherishing today. What if Japan succeeded? What if the madman from Germany conquered the world? Would these liberal bleeding hearts still think the way they are thinking? The innocent muslims, the liberals scream with their fist up in the air to stop the conservative madness against them, yes, the same people who are told by Allah that Christians and Jews must die in order for them to see their G-d. One would think that the person writing this article is from the middleeast from the way they are so determined to make the USA the beast. If democracy is a shortcut for demons and the Prince of Air-waves is in charge, as most of country believe we are as of today, then let us change our country to One rule and no freedoms. Would that help the writer love our country more? Democracy is the place of evildoers, and some of us that have been elected- will fight to change it, but, we first must make it safe for all mankind, not just for homosexuals liberals. I can guarantee that most of the bleeding liberals have never picked up a gun or served in our forces, they want their freedoms and their america bashings, and also be lovers of themselves, but, won’t stand by “glory- our flag”. Without works, there is no faith.

It was rather ironic that he posted it on Scarecrow’s thread, as I found out he’s a Nam vet too…

Yeah, well, I listened to 18 years of that stuff long ago and far away and I ain’t gonna go back again. ;-)

I did last night. For a bit. Don’t need that I need to read the whole thingh. I ghet the idea. We’re good and right and just. They’re asholes. But seriously…. do they do that to every blogger who shows up on TV?

Please, please. No more Rick Warren threads. Please?

ah, yes. These were the veteran Veteran Firepup smackdowns of which I spoke earlier.

Hard enough to take these eejits seriously on content, the consistently crappy writing…well, OK, just gives me more Snark-munition and more reason to go straight from pitying their ignorance to despising (and mocking the he** out of) them.

Why do right-tards hate the English language?

FunnyD

You think all of them? I think the rethugs don’t wanna do that when his ratings are so high. Except for Holder. Who will probably be conformed anyway.

Thanks for the heads up about National Republican Radio, Sunny.

Remember a couple of weeks ago when they had to let a bunch of people go due to hard times? I felt so bad for them. NOT.

why?

You can stream classical 24/7 at wdav.org. wdav until the middle of the night, when they seamlessly pick up the minnesota public radio classical stream. Only significant break is a few minutes of news on the hour.

A variety of streams are available at wdav. There may be a good way to stream mpr classical directly. I’ve never tried. MPR releases its playlist in advance, WDAV doesn’t.

Why, didn’t you like welcoming all of those new people to the Lake? As The One likes to say, we can disagree without being disagreeable!

what a schmuck.

The Markopolos guy who sussed out madoff’s scheme back in 1999 and reported it to the SEC has gone to ground…….hark! is that the sound of media heads exploding all over the country I hear? *G*

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..TE=DEFAULT

Says rather a lot about the man’s level of intelligence, doesn’t it?

you’re leaving out their persecution complex and how us not wanting them to foist their religous strictures upon us interferes with their right to practice their beliefs.
Uhm…yeah, I’m getting to Raven’s place of: No. Body. Cares. They’re clearly not mentally old enough for reason/logic, so, meh, why bother. Other than it’s fun to be one of the kewl kidz exchanging snarky comments over their thick and pointy heids.

FunnyD

well, i even meant all the Warren threads. Even the one s which were just us. I’m anxious to move omn to another story. And anxious to stop trying to expalin my position. Never did that very well.

*aaarrgh* WTF? Paulson’s latest blather…

“If the right outcome is reorganization or bankruptcy, then isn’t it better to get there through an orderly process?” Paulson asked.

Paulson said President George W. Bush wants to avoid bankruptcy — “if it can be avoided.” But Paulson said the No. 1 priority was getting U.S. automakers back on a viable path. Part of that effort, he said, would require all sides making sacrifices to boost competitiveness with foreign carmakers.

Ummm, Universal healthcare and Government subsidies might do the trick…!

And is there such a beast… ‘Orderly Bankruptcy’…?

we can disagree without being disagreeable!

At a blog? No chance. Next time Malkin is on TV can we pack some samiches and have a field trip?

And is there such a beast… ‘Orderly Bankruptcy’…?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read that and said “c’mon. screw Rick Warren. let’s get back to real issues today.”

just because I can don’t mean I will! [phhhhbbbtttt! nyah!]
FunnyD

The kanguage you emphasized is pretty close to what pelosi is saying. very close.

language. k & l are next to each other. my fat fingers.

why, yes, yes there is. it means the disorderly mess stays as far down the power/wealth pyramid as possible, out of sight. It’s not like there are any elections coming up where they’d need to pretend to care about working people!

FunnyD
Back to wrassle my pillow for another round or two.

Judging by corp media salivating all over bill’s charity records this morning, I’d wage a bunch of bucks on them running her over the proverbial coals…..and……just because thugs are @ssholes in general, you betchca.

Oh, and since I just reminded myself of palin, the mother of her potential son-in-law has been busted on drug charges. That one’s over at DU in their news articles section, iirc.

that’s one of the things I love about those fine Americans. they think they really sound smart. Downright intellectual and profound. And they right write for shit.

Sad, very sad. Of course if you give idiots a dream of a “better life” you can treat them like shit.

awww, and here I thought you were gettin’ all Dr Doolittle on us.
FunnyD
chat with a chimp in chimpanzee
and a kangaroo in its native kanguage!

Does that mean she won’t be able to make the wedding?

You are too kind. Thanks

Doesn’t surprise me one iota…! We need better Dems…! Well, time for me to head back outside for another hour…! ;-)

Morning everyone. Looks like the pres is going to let GM go bankrupt. No-good-rotton-effing-son-of-a-bitch.

LOL. Nope. Just fat fingers, FD.

I feel very negative after three days of LTTEs about the auto makers saying “Let them go under, those greedy workers deserve it!” It’s all they print, in this allegedly “Liberal” rag.

I see stupid people…

“fine Americans”
is that the new “good Germans”
(not) funnyD

Good Morning all
Attaturk, thanks for the good news.

And as far as “Can these folks give invocations?”: This is a discussion we really need to have.

I think its funny how so many of the religious wingnuts talk about “the gay” as a dangerous temptation. That’s why they’re so afraid of gays. I think a lot of these people are sexually frustrated and they would be much better off just acknowledging that they’re gay.

This is what I was thinking of. She said this on te house floor.

“Second, there must be shared sacrifice. Every party to the auto sector must be present at the table.”

Dismayed Conservatives? Aww. If they’re dismayed,that means these are good choices. I tend to just go ahead and figure if they like it,it’s gonna be ass backward and destructive. If they hate it,well then,it’s probably going to be something helpful that benefits someone besides a conservative,so it’s a win.

Scientists in charge of science-y things,why,what a novel concept. Yay!

I remembered how when Karl Rove called Biden a name and they asked Biden for a comment he said “Karl Rove is a fine American.” Joe’s funny.

The wall street guys couldn’t give a shite, they were making oodles of money and it was party hearty time. Law and ethics had nothing to do with that game. Free markets were the rallying cry, meaning free us to make money any effin way and will do it. They did, they screwed the goose that laid the golden egg and have taken the world into a depression. The worst is yet to come.

yeah.
Since it’s not acceptable to play the same “oooh, they tempt us, they’re bad” game with women anymore…for the most part. same shit, different excuse.
XXOO
FunnyD

Just like all the sacrifices we’ve seen in the banking and insurance sectors!

They are doing the carol thingy right now……I feel as though I should be in a MAll

WJ
7:30-8:00 DEL. ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON
D-District of Columbia
http://www.norton.house.gov

Topic: The Congresswoman will discuss her bill, the District of Columbia Fair and Equal Voting Rights Act, which would grant the District of Columbia a full-voting member in the U.S. House and also increase the number of congressional seats in the state of Utah from 3 to 4. A similar bill passed in the House in April 2007 but was stopped by a 57-43-filibuster vote on September 18, 2007, three votes of the 60 votes required.

8:00-8:30 NANCY TREJOS
Washington Post
Personal Finance Writer http://www.washingtonpost.com

Column: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy

Topic: The Federal Reserve on Thursday is expected to approve new credit card regulations, including banning the practice of raising rates on existing balances. The Federal Reserve asked for public comment on the proposed regulations and 62,000 consumers responded. Guest will discuss the new regulations and how they would impact credit card users.

8:30-9:00 Hotline/Newspaper Articles/Phones

9:00-10:00 ANNETTE GORDON-REED
Uplink Author, “The Hemingses of Monticello”

Gordon-Reed on Obama:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/mag…..-q4-t.html

Topic: Guest will look at the political career and the Presidential tenure of Thomas Jefferson. This is the sixth of our weeklong series looking at past presidents.

right. this is Pelosi fer god’s sake. sounding just like Paulson. And don’t even get me started on the “car czar” bullshit……………

look beyond politics please…oil trading at $34…

The oil price collapse is overshooting – on purpose. If you run out a supply v. demand spreadsheet over the past three years, there was no supply/demand based reason for it to have risen the way it did in the aftermath of the invasion of Iraq. Oil and the US (petro) dollar are correlated – as it seems the masters of the universe have elected to back the dollar with oil rather than gold.

As they drove the price of oil over $140 per barrel, it coincided with record low valuation of the US Dollar. Demand had not tripled in that time, and the only shortages that we saw here in the US were related to refining and distribution in the aftermath of a natural disaster.

The subsequent 75% decline in the price of oil is not correlated in any way to a 75% decrease in demand. The decrease in demand for oil is not more than 10% from when oil was at its peak. Here in America, the US Government announced a couple months ago that miles driven in the US was down 5% year over year.

These moves are made by those in charge of the value of the US Dollar, the value of gold and silver, the prime rate, the FED, The US Treasury, The IMF, The World Bank, Oil Company Ownership and the operation of the banking cartel.

Those who attend the Bilderberg Group call the tune on all of it. They know in advance what they will do, and work together to manipulate the whipsaws and major moves that result in a redistribution of wealth from those who think they know, to those who truly know, tomorrow’s news, today.

Yesterdays dramatic whipsaw of the dollar CAUSED the drop in the price of oil and gold/silver. THEY caused the dollar whipsaw. They literally control every lever.

My apologies, FD. Biden called Rove a “great Amerocan.” Not a “fine American.”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit…..-is-a.html

And then blame it on the union for not agreeing to let their members work for free. :-(((

%#(^&$@*())*&

thick pointy heads? Normally that would be hard to picture. But i think i got it.

why did it read “strippers” on my first read? no shit. No need to drive 7 hours.

I haven’t gotten used to Xmas in FL and probably never will. But it hit the 70’s or close to it in PA and then snowed a day or too later. My sis-in-law sent me an e-mail. “What a fucked up planet.”

Legal minds respond to landmark 9/11 civil suit against Rumsfeld, Cheney

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._1218.html

Mr.Solai manages a GM dealership. I’ve got a horse in this race but that has little to do with my anger that this whole debacle will be allowed to happen because busting a union is just too tempting to pass up.
This, on top of all the farewell fuck-you’s, is pissing me off to no end. We’re all watching Bush and the repubs destroy our country. Who’s fighting for our side?

You won’t get any quarrels from me on that analysis. Given the fact that “law and ethics” no longer exist anywhere in this country, “worse” is pretty much all one can expect.

I can’t tell you how delighted I am with the words “dismayed conservatives”.

DING!

Darwin said it. I believe it. That settles it.

that is what gets me, where’s the outrage over those salaries and bonuses.
parasites.

Hopefully the Flat Earthers will fall off the edge into oblivion.

Fuck outrage……prohibit it.

abcnews.com is now reporting that Bush will give loans to automakers. Not sure exactly how this will work yet.

Good Morning All,
It occurred to me that the money that Madoff disappeared could have saved the auto industry many times over but his investors wanted that big return. Kind of poetic.

Credit Suisse has figured out what to do. My proposal would be to take their plan and expand it to all of Wall Street PLUS Paulson and all of the “regulators” and SEC crooks and all of the CEO’s that have made out like bandits (because they were).

A girl can dream.

Heh. My old firm (well, before CS disappeared it). They have a long tradition of being the stingiest payer on the Street.

Off to the salt mines. Here in CNY, we’re going to get hit by a major snowstorm starting around noon. Schools are closing early, nightime activities cancelled etc. If I make it home, I’ll see all later.*g*

nothing here but rain and some sleet. I’d rather the snow.

I was gonna say, Hey isn’t this guy supposed to be gone fishin’?

agreed!
would much rather have snow

no precip here yet, but I’m ready.

Palin news:

More Palin family trouble: Levi’s mom’s been arrested
Published: Today, 7:57 AM

WASILLA, Alaska — A 42-year-old Wasilla woman was arrested Thursday at her home by Alaska State Troopers with a search warrant in an undercover drug investigation. Sherry L. Johnston was charged with six felony counts of misconduct involving a controlled substance.

Did that shotgun wedding ever happen?

Both Raven and I were at Dong Tam but at different times. Dong Tam had a ramp for the resupply LSTs. Dong Tam was used as the “home port” for the Mobile Riverine Force. We were up and down the tributaries of the Mekong.

All part of the schadenfreudefest.

good luck. be safe. keep toasty.

ditto

Swim’s up

would much rather have snow

We have 12″ or more coming today would you like to send it to you? I threw my back out the other day shoveling the damn stuff and do not wish to see anymore this winter.

would that it were possible.

Here they get ice at most. Does nothing for the spirits whatsoever.

Sorry about your back.

Do AK governors have pardon power?
Be funny to see the mother of the groom in stripes.

Orange jumpsuits— the new in thing for wedding attire. I sense a trend in the making.

Here they get ice at most. Does nothing for the spirits whatsoever.

Very depressing, dangerous to get around in, not good for animal or plant life though since my last visit to Canada I have developed a taste for Ice Wine.

to add to it, the ice we get isn’t good or sufficient for skating. I kind of miss the NE ponds that froze over in the winter . . . I remember spy pond in Arlington MA. A great place to skate.

We did Jamaica Plain, just around the corner from a house where hot rum toddies were served. Heading off to Cambrige on Sunday, depending on weather, for a pre holiday visit to Trader Joes and “2 buck chuck”

The price whistle-blowers pay for doing their duty to country.