Comments on: Rick Warren, Obama’s New BFF, Still Supports Iraq War, Gave W. Peace Award

By: MarkH

MarkH — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:55:26 +0000

There is a serious church & state problem Warren and Bush don’t realize or accept. They have the view that their religious directive is above Constitutional Law. That’s fine for a private citizen, but when they take the oath to uphold the Constitution then they have to set their personal religious view aside. Look what it’s gotten us? Bush’s Liberty Project has us ‘freeing’ people in Iraq when we have no valid reason for being there.

I wonder how torturing prisoners comports with his Christian faith.

We will be a lot better off when Bush is out of office.

By: earlbo

earlbo — Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:23:43 +0000

In response to Snowbird2 @ 118

The Bible in both the Old and New Testament call homosexuality as well as many other sexual activities a “sin”. In the Bible God said he hates sin and we will eventually pay the price for it.

The Bible mentions of homosexuality are rare and easily distorted by fundies. The letter to Dr. Laura contain a whole group of weird instructions that the homophobs ignore, like selling girls into slavery, so they can cling to a few oddball verses they use to defend their bigotry.

By: bonkers

bonkers — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:08:34 +0000

Actually, I don’t think Shrub deep down thinks he’s making the world a better place. It is about personal gain for him and his ilk. For that matter, since about 1994 I’ve felt the Clintons and their DLC brethren are more motivated by personal gain, in money or power, than by “making the world a better place.” This opinion is based upon their action over many years.

I don’t get that sense from Obama based on his actions. If he starts enacting a bunch of Bill Clinton type “reforms,” my opinion will change quickly. But he’s not President yet.

By: snowbird2

snowbird2 — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:31:14 +0000

You believe what you believe for whatever the reason. Rick Warren like many others have a basis for our beliefs. The basis is the Bible. Now right or wrong that is the basis. The Bible in both the Old and New Testament call homosexuality as well as many other sexual activities a “sin”. In the Bible God said he hates sin and we will eventually pay the price for it.

That is the “basis” for our beliefs. It has nothing to do with personal choice. What you are doing is asking us to compromise our belief system.

Our belief system does not mean we “hate” people. As a matter of fact Jesus said we should love one another. We love people of all persuasions but we hate the sin.

Jesus said “He is the way, the truth, and the light. No one comes to the Father but by HIM”.

God made a way for all people and it is at this time of the year that we remember the birth of Jesus. Another name for Him is Emanuel - God with us. He came lived among mankind and then he was sacrificed for our sin.

So you see God did it all for us. He made us, we fell into unbelief, God sent His Son to Die for that unbelief to make a way for eternal life. Believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.

That is the belief of a Christian. Would you have us to compromise our beliefs? Maybe you would I don’t know, but please don’t say we hate people, because we don’t.

By: Raven

Raven — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:45:04 +0000

trumpets, beezers, Vincent’s and Nortons!

By: Audrey

Audrey — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:44:50 +0000

I know it will be cold, but I’m not getting it. Sorry.

By: GayWv

GayWv — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:43:10 +0000

Come on my Gay Family Get real. Obama is just like the Rest of the Str People. you people need to all get together and be their when he is being President. and protest his ass. he hates Gay people, and you not getting no Rights. so get used too it. I am from a state where they will never never let Gays have Rights and plus where the Blacks still have no Rights. so Obama you might be President of some states but not here in West Virginia, Kentucky, Tenn,Georgia,

By: Adie

Adie — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:39:42 +0000

what’s the definition? is it a moving target?

i shouldn’t feed them? WHOM!?!?

Back later. Snapping turtles luvs murky water with goop-covered deep-dark places. I like snapping turtles. I hate making them mad.

Oye…

By: Adie

Adie — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:33:26 +0000

earmuffs? u forget the earmuffs?

i prefer my life first-hand…

By: sdrDusty

sdrDusty — Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:31:18 +0000

Too bad it wasn’t bottled hot water and doughnuts! wtf?!

From all I can gather, the defenses of this are
1) we want to be inclusive
2) he’s not that bad/it could be worse
3) it is not a priority issue

So far, not a single argument holds an ounce of water.
Where do we draw the line for inclusiveness? How much bigotry is OK?
And the priority issue is clearly a red herring. like we can only save the economy by denying gay rights.
STOP THE ELECTION!