Comments on: The only war they can win… http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:29:02 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: acquarius74 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1760095 acquarius74 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:14:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1760095 <p>Excellent article, Attaturk. DUGG and commented there.</p> Excellent article, Attaturk. DUGG and commented there.

]]> By: SanderO http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1760045 SanderO Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:30:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1760045 <p>The party that seems to be in power and on the tele most over the past will take the hit. Folks voted dem because Obi said he would change it all, but that remains to be seen. And if more of the same comes down, regardless of when the seeds were sewn, the guy in power will take it on the chin.</p> <p>If the dems try to “fix” the old corrupt system and the same shit comes down. They are not going to get support either. Then the question becomes twiddle dee or twidle dumb or shall be storm the bastille?</p> The party that seems to be in power and on the tele most over the past will take the hit. Folks voted dem because Obi said he would change it all, but that remains to be seen. And if more of the same comes down, regardless of when the seeds were sewn, the guy in power will take it on the chin.

If the dems try to “fix” the old corrupt system and the same shit comes down. They are not going to get support either. Then the question becomes twiddle dee or twidle dumb or shall be storm the bastille?

]]> By: wigwam http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759998 wigwam Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:00:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759998 <blockquote><p>The GOP is going to get killed next election.</p></blockquote> <p>IMHO you give our electorate too much credit for good sense.</p>

The GOP is going to get killed next election.

IMHO you give our electorate too much credit for good sense.

]]> By: wigwam http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759996 wigwam Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:59:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759996 <blockquote><p>I sense a GOP meme collapsing.</p></blockquote> <p>The captains of capital will be foreclosing on “the ownership society.” A pity, that.</p>

I sense a GOP meme collapsing.

The captains of capital will be foreclosing on “the ownership society.” A pity, that.

]]> By: wigwam http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759994 wigwam Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:57:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759994 <blockquote><p>they are resenting beginning in 09.</p></blockquote> <p>Wouldn’t you be? ;-)</p>

they are resenting beginning in 09.

Wouldn’t you be? ;-)

]]> By: wigwam http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759993 wigwam Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:56:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759993 <blockquote><p>Insecure securities!</p></blockquote> <p>Yes, but the purchasers bought CDSs to hedge their bet. That made their investment secure. Right?</p>

Insecure securities!

Yes, but the purchasers bought CDSs to hedge their bet. That made their investment secure. Right?

]]> By: jcrich53 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759988 jcrich53 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:53:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759988 <p>The Republican response, though not a surprise, is outrageous. I didn’t think the Republican Senate couldn’t go any further but Bush proved me wrong. Take a look at Global Investment Watch’s perspective on this at <a href="http://globalinvestmentwatch.com/2008/12/14/demint-vitter-and-mcconnell-the-three-horsemen-of-the-hypocracy/" rel="nofollow">http://globalinvestmentwatch.c.....hypocracy/</a></p> The Republican response, though not a surprise, is outrageous. I didn’t think the Republican Senate couldn’t go any further but Bush proved me wrong. Take a look at Global Investment Watch’s perspective on this at http://globalinvestmentwatch.c…..hypocracy/

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759986 ThingsComeUndone Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:50:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759986 <p>The GOP is going to get killed next election.</p> The GOP is going to get killed next election.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759985 ThingsComeUndone Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:49:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759985 <p>Speculators are the worse I know one lady who had 4 rental homes. Her husband owned a factory which in this economy must not be doing well.<br /> She delivered newspapers and cleaned houses when I left Illinois her and her husband were delivering papers and cutting lawns to try and keep up.<br /> Middle class white people in the burbs with good credit the GOP’s stronghold were able to borrow more than first time minority home buyers.<br /> I sense a GOP meme collapsing.<br /> The next question is what can be done?</p> Speculators are the worse I know one lady who had 4 rental homes. Her husband owned a factory which in this economy must not be doing well.
She delivered newspapers and cleaned houses when I left Illinois her and her husband were delivering papers and cutting lawns to try and keep up.
Middle class white people in the burbs with good credit the GOP’s stronghold were able to borrow more than first time minority home buyers.
I sense a GOP meme collapsing.
The next question is what can be done?

]]> By: SanderO http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759984 SanderO Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:39:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/15/the-only-war-they-can-win/#comment-1759984 <p>The other group is large too, people who were put into cheap mortgages, like loans with balloon payments and told they could renegotiate their loans to prevent the interest rate reset and of course that is not happening, so all these mortgages will go belly up.</p> <p>The industry got drunk and selling/giving mortgages because so many got fees and they just sold them to off in bundles at a profit! Then they were packaged up in complex “instruments” and leveraged and traded and the same with sub prime, these puppies are “toxic” or part of toxic “securities”</p> <p>Insecure securities!</p> The other group is large too, people who were put into cheap mortgages, like loans with balloon payments and told they could renegotiate their loans to prevent the interest rate reset and of course that is not happening, so all these mortgages will go belly up.

The industry got drunk and selling/giving mortgages because so many got fees and they just sold them to off in bundles at a profit! Then they were packaged up in complex “instruments” and leveraged and traded and the same with sub prime, these puppies are “toxic” or part of toxic “securities”

Insecure securities!

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