Over the past several years I've said a lot of things about President George W. Bush, few of them publishable anywhere except online, and even by blog-standards I've, um, pushed the envelope. So maybe I'm the wrong person to be calling for this. But I'm going to anyhow.
Mr. President, please publicly forgive Muntadhar al-Zeidi for throwing shoes at you, and please state, unequivocally, that the Iraqi journalist should not face charges or endure official harassment for his actions. If American values mean anything at all, this is the right thing to do.
According to press reports, al-Zeidi is currently being held by the Iraqi government in an undisclosed location. He faces quite serious, if as yet unspecified charges:
An Iraqi lawyer said Zaidi risked a miminum [sic] of two years in prison if he is prosecuted for insulting a visiting head of state, but could face a 15-year term if he is charged with attempted murder.
In the United States, "insulting a visiting head of state" is not a crime. Nor should it be. Throwing a shoe could certainly be illegal, and hustling a shoe-thrower out of a press conference would certainly be understandable. But pressing charges?
We value vigorous dissent in this country. So much so, that even when objects are publicly hurled at controversial speakers, we do not necessarily prosecute, and if we do, we do not consider the "insult" the specific crime at issue. Property damage as a result of such an incident might be a felony, but never an "insult."
According to al-Zeidi's brother, the journalist
"might serve two years in prison or pay a fine for insulting a president of foreign country unless Mr. Bush withdrew the case. “If they manage to imprison Muntader, there are millions of him all over Iraq and the Arab world,” Maythem al-Zaidi said.
There are indeed. For political reasons, forgiving this man would be nothing but beneficial. It would show that Americans can be tolerant. It would show that Americans are not vengeful. And it would show that we do not consider "insults" to be a matter for imprisonment: we do not hold one set of beliefs and values for ourselves, and another set for others. But this man, a citizen of Baghdad, makes the case better than I ever could:
Dr. Lutfi Al-Obusi, a 58-year-old political science professor, said: “I disagree with [the shoe-throwing] because that is opposite of our Muslim and Arabic traditions. Because Mr. Bush was here to say bye for Iraq and Iraqis. And in the same time Bush is president of the U.S. and he called for the liberation and freedom. So I hope Mr. Bush will forgive Mr. Muntader al-Zaidi for what happened. And if Mr. Bush will not approve for releasing Mr. Muntader al-Zaidi that will create big problem."
President Bush, you need to avoid this "big problem." Do this one thing, this one small thing, for the sake of peace. Forgive Muntadhar al-Zeidi and call for his immediate release, and call for him to be protected against all forms of official harassment.
Do this one right thing before you leave.
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Agreed. But can we ever forgive Bush.?!
Two years but he missed!
Its a shoe its not a deadly weapon.
if the shoe fits, air it.
Al Jazeera:
Bush the man who cannot ever admit making a mistake…despite being WRONG about everything Forgive?
The only time he plays nice is right before he takes away the Dems football like Lucy playing Charlie Brown.
No fucking way is Bush gonna give in on this. Guy’s lucky he’s not an auto worker.
According to the extended CSPAN replay I watched late last night.. the journalist was Egyptian.
a little rain on the parade;
the president’s entire effort in the middle east was to create unrest, I kind of doubt he would do do anything to prevent more of it.
now, he might be pressured for other reasons but we really have to realize, preventing more unrest will not be the reason bush asks that charges are not preferred
Don’t have the link handy right now but AFP had an article I saw earlier that he was with an Iraki TV station that broadcast from Cairo.
Thersday on Monday. How nice. This journalist certainly should be forgiven. I don’t think he would be forgiven by Bush if he lived here.
I like your idea I agree it makes sense but has Bush ever shown before that he can be the bigger man by taking the high road?
Sure there is a first time for everything but I don’t like these odds.
Aloha, Thers! This was the best quote I’ve seen yet…
Related via Raw Story:
If the shoe flits, you must acquit.
You watch, starting tomorrow, “Munthadar” will replace “Osama” as the most popular name for newborn Sons.
Raed Jarrar reports: http://raedinthemiddle.blogspo.....-jail.html
Albaghdadia, the TV channel where the Iraqi Journalist Montather Al-Zeidi works, reports that an Iraqi MP (Ms. Zainab Al-Kanani) informed them that Montather’s hand was broken in jail.
This confirms a lot of reports and rumors about Montather being subject to torture while the Iraqi authorities are interrogating and detaining him in some unspecified location.
Preznit Codpiece is probably giggling at the thought that al-Zeidi is probably being tortured by Iraqi officials that he trained. There is not a place in Hell miserable enough for this human vermin masquerading as President.
thank goodness we avoided a socks scandal.
Actually, he is an Iraqi, but, the station he worked for was owned by a Cairo company…
I opened the DIGG.
I guess we can hope that there is a drop of humanity in Bush- - but I’ll have to see it to believe it.
When I opened the DIGG there was in the list of other like articles a petition for the shoe thrower. I’ll see what I can learn about that.
Additional report - less definitive source: http://www.roadstoiraq.com/200.....er-prison/
Iraqi TV al-Sharqiya just reported on the news that AL-Zaidi is transferred to Camp Cropper prison [the Airport prison, managed by the American forces].
The TV Channel announced that Al-Zaidi is in a difficult condition, with broken ribs and signs of tortures on his thighs. Also he can not move his right arm.
I love TiVo. I’ve watched a loop of georgie ducking shoes all day…….
I’ll be very very very surprised if Bush *ahem* pardons al-Zeidi. I’m reminded of the moment in the 2000 debates where he bragged about denying clemency…”and you know what we did, we killed ‘em.” Bush is one of those “he had it coming” kind of guys. He’s one cold dude.
There is a petition launched by Raed in the Middle yesterday - here’s the link:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/montather?e
Actually there is an entire wing of hell reserved for the Bush family and their cronies.
Here’s a great article on the situation…
This is not going to turn out well.
I think it was an Egyptian newspaper…?
I’ve been hearing he’s also quite the war criminal.
Heh, No need for tivo, MSNBC has been showing it all day, and the teaser for Rachel says she’s going to cover it as well…! ;-)
Clean-up on aisle 31!
(sigh)
An Iraqi lawyer said Zaidi risked a miminum [sic] of two years in prison if he is prosecuted for insulting a visiting head of state
I’m confused. This is the kind of Democracy and Rule of Law, and Liberty we brought to Iraq? Didn’t we help them write their “Constitution”?
Thank god we freed them!
I bet you think I’m crazy…
I haven’t said that yet.
but we conservatives know the truth.
oh.
please disregard the above statement.
No, no, no. Reply to 31.
(sigh again)
Not you-CTuttle.
Those mods sure work fast!
watertiger has the loop
Judas Priest, two 31s. (sighs self into hyperventilation)
keep it up and you’ll be a sighs ten.
Apparently someone lobbed a shoe at Ski and ran him off. Nice shot.
BWAAAHAHAHA!!!
That’s much better than mine….
Oh, lordy, ya think so??? *g* Oh. You meant shoes.
Al Zaida is employed by a TV news outlet that is owned in Egypt but is based in Iraq. (h/t gorillasguides)
Ah! Clarity and facts. You a liberal? *g*
Dayam, I missed all the fun…? ;-)
I don’t know whether it would help if we told the Iraqis that a lot of Americans would like to throw their shoes at Bush.
Uggs, incoming!
They’d ask why we haven’t thrown the book at him.
I wonder if Lurk took a prilosec before work today…! ;-)
It did not hit, you must acquit.
I forgot Rule #1 of the FDL Official Handbook:
(Please don’t feed….)
eeek! insulting shrub is a crime???? we’re all toast aren’t we?!?
Tweety now having explained to him the significance of the *shoe* throwing, and the use of the word “dog”.
Nope - he still doesn’t get it.
no shirt, no shoes, no insult
wow - he *really* doesn’t get it.
isn’t that how the terrorist watch list got so many names on it?
Yeah, Tweet. And the people that moon Bush along the inagural route are merely airing out their private parts. (Senate material for sure.)
actually, I doubt they were so sophisticated with the watch list. Mostly, they just did an online white pages search for the names like Mohammed, Hussein, Khalid… I doubt they even bothered with the alternate spellings.
Missed part of the Tweety bit but that was horrid … Tweety hasn’t noticed the number of Iraqis killed at all.
Tweety’s mind is on the sweet hills of Pennsylvania, and Senator Spectre’s seat.
He’ll make a fine Senator.
Free al-Zeidi!
LOL. That’s it. That’s the winner.
There is almost nothing on the planet I would like to contemplate less than Specter’s seat. *g*
Or God will get you
;>)
lol! yeah, i missed that. Just scrolled down.
It did not hit, you must acquit!
actually, i was just joking - but i don’t think a white page search was how medea benjamin and ann wright got on the list.
by today’s standards, he doesn’t stand a chance. I’m sure some Kennedy will come out of the woodwords and demand an appointment to the seat, or, alternatively, some governor will put it up for sale, and I doubt a pundit would have enough greenbacks.
lol, is that a monty python foot?
so was I. But Medea does sound kind of foreign to me. Riotous Greeks or something like that.. either that or they threw in the old Weather Underground membership directory for good measure ;-P
The Python foot.
;>)
Trying to remember what happened to the guy who threw a pie into the PM Chretien’s face…
I do believe he was charged with something.
Bush has imprisoned thousands of innocent people, killed them while in illegal custody, dropped bombs on hundreds of thousands of innocents without remorse. What would make anyone think he would take pity on some poor guy who was making a legitimate statement?
lol. it was the code pink directory. uppity women who wear pink? that’s probably a reference to pinko - and we all know joe had the right idea. *g*
It wasn’t. My friend James, a long-time friend of the family of Sami al-Arian, gets searched every time he tries to get on-or off-a plane. He called me a few weeks ago, after returning from somewhere, and calls me: “yeah, it happened again…say, Ron, when is the last time YOU tried to fly anywhere?”
Just in case anyone needs a reminder. Only 35 days until inauguration! (And don’t let a shoe hit you in the head on your way out, Mr. President)
http://www.obamapresident.org/
yeah, not funny. i guess our job is to see that list go the way of mccarthy’s - something to be studied as a past time of collective insanity
How can al-Zeidi be charged with insulting a visiting head of state when Cheney was no where near Iraq?
Makes me want a time machine of some sort to rush those days…or maybe he will spend Christmas in TX and forget to return.
That’d be great. But I’d much rather see him marched off to trial at the Hague.
Why is it such an issue when a man tries to Air out his grievances, so that communication is clear? It was a start. He was just putting it out there. I’m sure he would have refined his approach to more effectively touch on the subject if it weren’t for those pesky guys jumping on him like Line Backers on a slow Quarterback.
I guess if it had actually hit GW on his RockBlock skull we would’ve found some way to laugh even harder, although my stomach muscles are very sore just from the two fly bys.
I never thought a shoe hurler would become my Hero. Free my Hero!!!!!
lol!
Thers, i LOVE your informed and accurate take on the goings on in the Village, but Bu$h apologize??????
sweetie, you been smokin tha tree needles or something?
great points herein. it’s just that……….
how do i put this gently????????
The Nutcracker Suite is a fairy tale. And THIS will NEVER EVER HAPPEN, EVER!!!!
hellova try tho.
Bush wouldn’t even change course on his pronunciation of “nuclear” for his own family, friends, staff, political party, and countrymen who voted for him. He knows he says it wrong. He can say it right the same as any other English-speaking adult without a speech impediment can. He deliberately says NUCULER, and says it every chance he gets.
He has already said “So what?” about the shoe, in front of the world. But he will never publicly “forgive” this man, in so many WORDS, as an official act, because that would SAVE the impertinent al-Zeidi, and it would be good for America, our president’s OWN personal bit for the war effort, finally! Bush saves no one. That is a historical fact.
Terribly important post, though. Thanks for putting it out there. Still praying for something higher to happen here. Maybe? For once?