Colin Powell appears on Fareed Zakaria’s GPS today and unloads on Bible Spice:
I think that in the latter months of the campaign, the party moved further to the right. Governor Palin, to some extent, pushed the party more to the right. And I think she had something of a polarizing effect when she talked about "small values are good." Well most of us don’t live in small towns. And I was raised in the South Bronx and there’s nothing wrong with my value system from the South Bronx.
Powell clearly doesn’t buy the fantasy that the GOP keeps losing elections because it’s insufficiently right-wing. And I was sort of wondering when some Republican would notice that pissing on us city folk every 4 years wasn’t exactly the most sustainable electoral strategy.
But not content with taking down Caribou Barbie, Powell goes after El Rushbo:
I was impressed by an article that Mort Kondracke wrote recently that said, "Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh?" Is this really the kind of party that we want to be, when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?
Although Powell is certainly correct that the GOP does have an image problem as a result of its endless quest for enemies (San Francisco, Massachusetts, gays, Mexicans, Muslims, feminists, teachers, science, etc.), he makes the same mistake, ironically, as the wingnuts who will attack him for this interview.
The Republican party’s main problem isn’t that they’re haters. They hated their way through a string of big wins — from Gingrich to W. No, their problem is that Americans understand that tax cuts and criminalizing abortion won’t solve the financial crisis, the energy crisis, the health care crisis or get us out of Iraq. Tone is the least of their worries.



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How many decades has Rush and friends been spouting this stuff? John Birch attacks on Commies/code for foreigners? Prescott Bush supported Birth Control because he wanted immigrants to use it.
When hasn’t the GOP preached hate and the rights of Rich people?
Thanks BT, When does this air I wanted to see this I,ve been hearing about it for days !!!
They are haters, and they are racist. Wait until the Limbaugh, Joe the Plumbers and Joe Sixpackers, and the USA, USA, USA types all start realizing that the GOP doesn’t want them to make more than the minimum wage…doesn’t care about their kids…whether they live or die from lack of health care…doesn’t care that the won’t be able to pay their mortgages…doesn’t care that their children go off to wars for oil…just wait…
Oh yeah…
Is the Ambi*n wearing off…or the social anxiety disorder wearing off???
Maybe the Koolaid has a bitter taste to it these days..
Right now CT on CNN.
We were just typing about this downstairs, so I’ll reprise one of my comments:
((( LS )))
Sic ‘em, girl ! *g*
Also, speaking of Palin, CNN reports that arson is suspected in fire in her home town church.
If people don’t see this now they never will
I’m not saying they’re not haters. I’m just saying that’s not the main reason they’re losing elections.
If they weren’t beginning to see it now…we would be experiencing VP-elect Palin…
As things get worse in this economy (and they will) many will develop cracks in their dogmaticly held belief system and then it will shatter.
Vote Palin/Romney ‘12 !
I put that Powell promo clip up at my place Thursday evening. The Anchorage Daily News and Mudflats put it up early Friday.
I don’t get a lot of comments at my place, but the three days’ comments (424) at the ADN clearly show Palin is indeed, and continues to be, as polarizing as Powell states.
Here’s part of what Mudflats had to say:
Understood, and I agree with you, hence the reference to Koolaid, USA, etc.
Fear and a fabricated common enemy lurking under every park bench ready to eat their babies alive…great way to control the people.
I always wonder why America has not experienced IEDs in all cities since 9/11 if their narrative were true. Why? Because Booosh kept us safe? Nah.
Powell sez he left behind some great children. I spose he’s referring to Michael, the telecom tool.
He’s heard to have called Leslie & HoJo, “Hey Hombres, ah got some great deals on Rugs and the guy even threw in a pair of shoes !”
It never ceases to amaze me how the press and so called semi sane folks like Powell can concern troll their party while the looting of our country and assault on workers by said party continues without a word.
These people are so far beneath contempt… I wont type the words which would surely require moderation.
Powell was handed a sizeable purse for his services to the MI Complex … this is how he repays them …
i had such hope for powell but he has been irrelevant since he left the military. a disgrace to his race, imo. he can say what he wants but he is still a thug. sad, actually.
How could you have hopes for the man who did the official whitewash on My Lai, and who worked for W? Doesn’t that tell you all you need to know about him?
OMG…they just showed the video of the shoe throwing on CNN…W ducked and then ducked again…wow…great reflexes…
In fairness I was impressed with his defense of Muslims.
This from the man who pitched the US case for WMD in Iraq to the UN.
1,858 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Blue Texan and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
I wonder which party’s leadership is gunna figure out that “…tax cuts and criminalizing abortion won’t solve the financial crisis, the energy crisis, the health care crisis or get us out of Irag.” I don’t want the fascists to figure it out and they won’t as long as the Democratic Party leadership doesn’t…time to start kickin some Democratic ass and stop worryin’ about runnin’ against the Rethugs or bein’ labled by the corporate media. Obama won by runnin’ FOR democratic values and advancing progressive positrions on issues that matter, it is time to focus on bringin’ the DEMOCRATS around…60 votes will not be difficult to find with a majority of 58 or 59 if we get some kickass leadership and get Obama’s back. Holdin’ the existin’ Democrats in line is gunna be the problem until we install some leadership in the party leadership.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS THING IS OURS TO LOSE NOW SO LET’S JEST START KICKIN’ SOME FASCIST ASS!!!
Hmmm. Maybe we just learned something new about Bar. Maybe she threw things at W when he was little, so he learned the fine art of ducking.
can’t explain that. guess i have been behind the curve. thought maybe he was just following orders? my fault. i gave him the benefit of the doubt for too long. it hurts me/us to have to have him fail like this.
Maybe we learned something about Laura
eCahnomics
Eureka Springs
Great comments. Powell is late and misses the point, again.
I was saying downstairs, the republican party can rebuild said party by marketing the following;
“the neo-cons have highjacked the republican aprty and their policies are anything but republican
“the republican party cannot cater to theo-crats and we reasert the seperation of church and state, we believe any religious group that tries to influence american politics are no longer exempt from taxes”
“the republican party rebukes the neo-con administration of the last 8 years, they are not republicans but they have used the republican constituency, they do not have republican values of smaller government, government out of our lives, strong constitutional adhearance, protecting AMERICAN economy not “global” economy and protecting our business and infrastsructure”
“the republican party recognizes the crimes of the neo con party in office and would like to initiate articles of impeachment post office and we would like to prosecute criminals for crimes if they are found guilty “
now, I know none of that is gonna happen, “the base” are too easy to manipulate and there are too many voters to simply turn away
however “the base” are now manipulating the republicans not the other way around and if they read this blog, they need to read my post in particular and write it down, it will save their party and possibly the two party system
but of course I do live in a fantasy land and I do know it ain’t gonna happen
Of course he was following orders. That’s the story of his life, his excuse. That excuse only works for the winners, as you might recall after WWII.
I think those reflexes have to be committed to muscle memory at a young age, but Laura could have helped W keep in training.
not only that, he called it a “pitch” himself, and he himself said he knew the case was weak.
he became a marionette and never realized a “good soldier” is NOT a soldier who follows orders if it risks the sanctity of this nation…and powell DID know “if we break it we own it”, he knew he was doing damage and went forward
we all make mistates, powell needs to step up more then this if he is to reclaim any integrity
Heh. Zakaria finished with a paean to Powell, what a great man he is. Of course, I didn’t hear Zakaria ask about the U.N. pitch. (I was out of the room for awhile, so I might have missed it.)
… perhaps he’d been on many hunting expeditions with Scout Leader Cheney …
Checkout this vid of fearless leader and the Pillsbury Doughboy in Iraq!
Still think that skill was learned at an early age. Later experience reinforces it. I have my hypothesis and I’m sticking to it. *g*
maybe its too soon for him. mcnamara took 30 years for his mia culpa.
Thanks. That’ll go viral PDQ.
LOL
His expression “between” shoes is priceless.
True, he has spent his entire life dodging responsibilities …
Citizen Hugh:
“This from the man that pitched the US case for WMD in Iraq to the UN.”
A lot of us from the “Vietnam generation” have known all about Uncle Colin and his spineless, valueless ability to shovel “the Man’s” shit in return for scraps from the kitchen. Donna Brazil said it best when she said “he would rather kiss black babies than feed them”. Colin Powell, like the entire fascist cast of characters, shills, enablers and fellow travelers, is irrelevant to solving our problems and hekping to save the planet…the less time we spend on him and the vacuousy of fascist rehtoric and politics the more time we have to win the war we’re in against ignorance, slavery and starvation.
ohhh yeahhh – thats the repugs dream ticket – not that romney would accept 2nd fiddle….. lol hey petro how you doing up north?? ;o)
(((Petro)))!!! Meant to say that earlier! *g*
I reread The Best and the Brightest right before reading McNamara’s mea culpa. What a shallow man: Who could have known? I wish I’d known. Hardly convincing, especially since it took him 30 years to figure it out. At least W & minions were smart enuf to use that excuse right away.
And a weak-ass mea culpa at that. “We did the best we could with the information we had”.
Now that’s an astute observation!
… counting down the days to Jan. 21st … looks like our NeoCons will remain in office for the next year or more … our Dems up here are totally useless !
Good to see ya, LS … it’s been awhile. *g*
So Harker will win after Parliament goes back into session?
You too Petro!
I’m secretly hoping the Neocons lost their butts via Madoff. Heh, heh…
Honey, I need to get my nails done and my hair colored…Honeydo…STFU, we’re broke!
well young Mr Powell surely took to the Limbaugh Bush BS with vigor when he ran the FCC. It is always easiest to rebuke the bullies after they have been vanquished. Gen Powell seems to have that lesson learned very clearly.
It’s not so much that he’ll win as the Libruls will most likely capitulate … insufferable b*stards !
i smell another bailout in the works.
*ouch* … could see lots of trophy wives as … um … free agents next year …
Powell has camouflage syndrome…he just blends right in.
I wonder if that’s who Paulson lent $2 Trillion to …
We feel your pain.
And I don’t know why I want to call him Harker instead of Harper. I’ll do my mea culpa right now.
Neocon Housewives of D.C….a new series
Depends on how airtight the pre-nups were…
maybe, no one is talkin.
I think you meant Bernanke, not Paulson. Paulson’s only up to about $300 billion.
What was airtight? :)
Both Madoffs business and personal finances have been put into receivorship. This could be interesting.
Did you see my link in the other post that the head of GMAC Financials lost his *ss via the Madoff ponzi scheme????
There is a giant stink going on…giant.
They are all broke!!!
Can you imagine what kinds of bills the fat cats have that can’t get paid right now…unless WE bail them out???
Tip of the iceberg…
Oh yeah, I recall Pelosi’s comments that “we don’t even know the half of it”…I think she was referring to the coming economic Titanic…gee, I wonder who she invests her fortune with???
i can’t wait. lots of fun ahead.
I waiting eagerly for the list of names to be published. More schadenfreudefest.
Only his “remaining” assets…the rest is…ummm…”ether”…he used investor money to pay other investors…over, and over, and over…There is no bottom…it is the Emperor’s new clothes…
No worries, we call him much worse … *g*
Thanks, I meant Bernanke.
Could there be CDSs involved to save big boys and screw us?
Hmmm, I wonder if the German pledge to reveal all secret bank accounts will yield any goodies ?
I’ll bet you do.
i believe the only reason he got caught now was that the banks wouldn’t lend the money for the next phase. oops.
What about the Swiss?
I admit to almost total ignorance on the specifics of the invented “financial” instruments. But your general sentiment is well founded.
Well, my guess is, if Big Daddy Warbucks has lost a lot of cash, then the Trophy wife has to hope that the pre-nup is ‘airtight’ enough that she at least gets the minimum amounts in the divorce.
If it ain’t then she winds up with less than nothing and still married to a now broke fatcat.
And seems like they all would have been better off buying Lotto tickets.
Isn’t that always the case ?
this is close to the point where they start to eat their own. it has to go there for the public to get it.
I think the Banks in Suisse and Liechtenstein are also complying … anyone know if that is correct ?
ohhh the blight here in america has drifted north…. harper is a fast learner i see…. divide and conquer eh… lol
=thincat?
eCAHN – do you know Madoff and how did he get away with this for so long?
Not yet. It will take a little time for the fat to burn off.
No more…Honey, the girls and I are planning a lunch at the Meridian on Friday and we’re flying to the spa on Saturday morning…kiss..spit..kiss…
Shut up tr***op…
Soup for you! Stay home and just like the Chertoff’s…no more maid service!!!
Of course Rush will deal with this easily.
I hope Limbaugh invested his money with Madoff. Heh.
Never heard of him until the day the story broke.
Josh is skeptical that it was a Ponzi scheme from the getgo, not based on any specific knowledge but just how hard it would be to keep it going as long as Madoff did.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c…..248051.php
What has been reported is that redemptions were caused by the behavior of financial markets and redemptions are what triggered the implosion.
I’m agnostic, waiting more info.
as i recall onion flavored water was what was fed to those who needed to lose weight.
They’ve been up here for long, hiding in Churches and building their base … esp. back when Mulrooney was Raygun’s BFF. Now Harputz has given them free reign and the Libruls are sitting back, waiting for the NeoCons to self- destruct, oblivious to what will happen to Canada and our social programs.
I hope Cheney invested his money with Madoff.
… and the Evangelist leaders …
and Libby…and Judy…and..
he may have had big plans but did not have an adequate business model. then started to borrow to make up the short fall. here in sd we had j david dominelli in the 80s. sooner or later you have to make more than you spend. he coasted on his rep.
it takes a crisis, to wise people up !!
How sweeet that would be.
I hope you are right but if every investment is covered by
insuranceCDSs and the FED/Treasury covers all the losses of the issuers this could go on until the Treasury runs out of borrowing capacity or the FED runs out of paper.ET has the MSNBC Footage of the shoe bomber!
I think I heard that Madoff guaranteed a 10%/year return and was able to accomplish that on paper even in bad market years, so skepticism was building.
of course, they will use our money first. that is how the game is played. there has to be a time, as you say, that there is no more money to prop up the schemes. has to be that way for the public to notice. we are in for a rough time.
LOL … Shoe Bomber
That guy came closer to getting Bush than Bush came to getting Bin Laden …
true, he never waivered in the 10%. that is why many said something is not right. typical scheme. if you have no heart, get in, take the money, get out. screw everyone else. it’s just business, ya know.
I think he is a closer for the Iraqi National Baseball team!
My late father-in-law (who died long before I met my husband) did just that in Dusseldorf during the hyperinflation. Borrowed to buy property, then paid off mortgages with worthless deutschemarks (or whatever the currency was called back then). So he owned his property free & clear when the crash came.
The trouble with doing that in solely financial investments is that you never know when the crash will come & if you overstay your hand, you lose everything. Real property is smarter.
Citizen Raven:
Dana Pernino got a microphione in the eye and sports a “shiner” now…poor thing!
… and he’s pissed that he got paid in U.S Treasury Bills …
Wonder if she’ll be wearing a designer eye patch at her next presser.
Citizen Petrocelli:
Bin Ladin has been livin’ in the Crawford compound for the last 5 years…didn’tcha know?
I better leave that one alone or I’ll get censored again!
agreed. nothin wrong with real stuff. not much of it.
*smacks forehead* Of course, his policies have been mirrored by Bush, to run America into the ground …
Stirling Newberry upstairs on Ponzi scheme as political scandal.
lol!!! is that why chimpy sold off the ranch?? lmao!!!!
Citizen Raven:
They been after you again have they?…I certainly don’t understand how such a mild mannered, self-deprecating and patriotic individual as you could possibly fall victim to such tactics!!
All I said was that the French fight with their feet and **))*& with their faces! That’s not so bad now is it?
I *heart* Raven.
ROFL
Are we sure that’s what Dana got in her eye? blink blink
I knew you couldn’t resist …
I can resist anything but temptation.
reverse epu
Bush had just finished his prepared remarks in which he said the security agreement was made possible by the U.S. surge of troops earlier this year, whhen the journalist, Muthathar al Zaidi pulled his shoes off and hurled them at the president. “This is a goodbye kiss, you dog,” Zaidi shouted
Citizen Raven:
Well dear, they only censor around here for tellin’ the truth or talkin’ about sex and seems like you get a “twofer”. LOL
Citizen Raven:
“This is a goodbye kiss, you dog!!”
And we in this country gotta leave it to the Iraqis ta throw things at the bastard…he leaves office with Iraq in better shape than the US…what the fuck??!!!
Dude like that would never get that close stateside.
Especially wearin loafers!
The Republicans have a torture problem and Powell contributed to that.
Go Zaidi!!!!
GOP platform 2012.
If we just outlaw gay marriage and abortion, the economy will fix itself.
Bible Spice.
Line of the week!
Yeah, if the GOP wants to win more elections, it needs to move away from the hate, and focus on its really good ideas – like taking taxpayer money and handing it over to private industry while simultaneously cutting taxes for big business. Or busting unions. Real kitchen-table stuff that connects with the Sam’s Club Republicans.
Does Powell even understand why he identifies as Republican/conservative?
If he thinks Palin is polarizing he is in disagreement with 80% of the republican party.
If he thinks that they shouldn’t listen to Rush lim-paw, that would go for FOX as well. Hannity, Beck, Scar, Boorts, Coulter-giest,OLie-lly, Rove, Scooter, Wolfy and the gang.
Someone want to explain Powell’s infliction with the Republicans? What is it that makes him one besides saying so?