As much as I think Dubya is the worst president of all time and can’t wait to be rid of him, he was damn good at getting shit done. Sure, almost everything he got done was stupid and destructive and unpopular, but that just makes his "achievement" even more perversely impressive.
Remember after the 2004 election, when Bush declared that he had political capital and intended to spend it? That was not exactly a landslide victory, and his approval rating dipped below 50% immediately afterwards and stayed there. Republicans did not have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. And yet, Dubya was still able to bully and bluster Congress into giving him almost everything he wanted… even after the Democrats were in the majority!
Now compare that with Obama. As the Democratic nominee, he caved on telecom immunity, and was perfectly happy to push for the financial bailout without insisting on oversight. Now that he’s the landslide president-elect chock full o’ political capital, I don’t see any evidence that he wants to spend it – at least not on the auto industry. Here’s what Obama said before the bridge loan failed in the Senate:
The legislation in Congress right now is an important step in that direction and I’m hopeful that a final agreement will be reached this week.
And here’s his statement after:
I am disappointed that the Senate could not reach agreement on a short-term plan for the auto industry. I share the frustration of so many about the decades of mismanagement in this industry that has helped deliver the current crisis. Those bad practices cannot be rewarded or continued. But I also know that millions of American jobs rely directly or indirectly on a viable auto industry, and that the beginnings of reform are at hand. The revival of our economy as a whole should not be a partisan issue. So I commend those in Congress as well as the Administration who tried valiantly to forge a compromise. My hope is that the Administration and the Congress will still find a way to give the industry the temporary assistance it needs while demanding the long-term restructuring that is absolutely required.
He sounds like an innocent bystander with no ability to influence the outcome, either as a senator or a president-elect. No cajoling, no arm-twisting, no deal-making, not even any of that if-we-don’t-pass-this-immediately-America-will-be-destroyed rhetoric that Dubya deployed so effectively. He couldn’t even persuade everyone in his own party to show up and vote the right way. (Okay, I’ll give him a pass on Teddy, and Harry voted Nay for procedural reasons.)
As Ian points out, there are still ways that Obama can make this happen, and they don’t all depend on congressional approval or being president. Let’s see if he’s willing to take action to avoid catastrophe, or if he’s content to just wring his hands on the sidelines and hope that Dubya can make something good happen for once.



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No arm twisting as he plays the middle…but a lot of arm twisting in Congress on the Wall street Bailout and Lieberman’s committee chairs.
I apologize for the early OT Eli, but I thought all would want to see this.
After some googling, I managed to find that internal Senate Repug “action alert” mentioned by David Shuster on KO tonight:
(My bold)
Principles? What principles? A cynical partisan strategy to punish/break the unions even if the Repugs took the entire country of America down as a result.
Obama needs to stand up to the elected Representatives and Senators from Volkswagen, Toyota, Honda, BMW and Mercedes and help American Blue Collar workers before it’s too late. He still needs our votes and taxes.
Btw, Kerry was in Poznan, Poland for the Climate Conference… Baucus and Tester’s votes are inexcusable…!
I can picture the Republicans grinning in the ruins of America, saying, “It was *totally* worth it.” Especially since they would all still be rich.
Digg this right now!
at least Congress didn’t let boosh freaking destroy social security by letting ignorant citizens invest their future in the freaking stock market…where would they be now?
Sad, but true… However, if they want to filibuster, make ‘em filibuster! …with the rolling out of the cots and all!
Yeah, that was pretty much the only major initiative I could think of where Dubya did *not* get his way. I suppose you could count immigration reform, but I don’t think he was nearly as hot for that.
There is a very simple thing he can do and I wish he does it. He can just come out and say that on Jan 20th, he will sign an order to make $14B available for the 2.5. That should be sufficient for the companies to ward off the creditors for the next 6 weeks.
I am very irate at “bad management should not be rewarded” bromide, where were all these concerned trolls, because that is what they are, when they signed off on the $700B bailout for horrendously mismanaged investment firms and AIG?
Business as usual is not a change we can believe in.
OT – Greenwald on Moyers tonight. Yeah, I’m prolly the 10th person to put this up.
It would be bad enough if the amounts were *equal*, much less a fifty-fold difference.
I saw the US premier of your name at FilmEx in LA back in 76 or 77. Still a great flick.
Maybe I’ve watched Mr. Smith Goes to Washington a few too many times, but I would love see Sen. BMW Corker go head first into a bucket of outraged telegrams.
I know Harry Reid is a dickless wonder but don’t ANY of the Dims have stones? WTF aren’t they making these Gooper bastards spend Christmas Day on the Millionaire’s Club chamber floor defending their filibuster while a squad of them goes at them?
Good thing there’s an election coming . . . oh wait . . .
If the Democrats aren’t going to protect us from the America-fuckers then THEY CAN GO TOO.
Now see little over a month after WINNING the election and damn political touret’s is back.
Also in the future, after the next Constitional Convention, I hope to hell there’s a provision demanding lame duck’s are shooed outta the White House within hours of the election.
Cool, I look forward to it…! Particularly since a snowstorm aborted my run up the mtn tonite…! Put’s a crimp in my holiday budget, tho… :-(
For the memory impaired, reminders are always appreciated. *g*
Just tryin’ to stay awake ’til he comes on.
Yeah, here he’s on an hour later than usual tonite. Gives me a chance to listen to Riverwalk Jazz, though. That’s always a treat.
It’s definitely worth it…strong words and a strong call for action, either through a commission or a prosecutor
Me too, in Urbana but when it was brand new.
I hear this guy’s available.
Kurosawa
first democrats should be Democrats’
second democrats should be Democrats
payoff should be pay off
oh, and “rush to judgment” with the TARP…didn’t any Republicans participate in the “rush to judgment”? and wasn’t the “rush to judgment” based on dire warnings and forecasts and fearmongering by Republican Bush administration operatives?
sloppy work there, repugs
My little city library actually has a copy. Brand new. Heh
Sign him up.
Rachel reading from an actual copy of The Washington Post spread out in front of her…I love it!
Yea here is the rethugs who voted for Tarp and against the bridge loan
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..103/672136
about report of high U.S. officials responsible for torture
Well, I know where I’d be right now…starving to death
I’ve always said W has been an amazingly successful president.
Crippling the working- and middle class and privatizing everything was the agenda and I cannot thing of anything he hasn’t achieved toward this end.
It all depends on what your metric is, really.
O/t -
Is the Jim White who comments at Glenn’s *our* Jim White?
That is where Greenwald wants to start with the accountability to refute that our officials are above the law.
I just got a Blu Ray, I’d love to see it in that format.
When Bush finally had his presser in NO after Katrina he said he was going to make NO like the rest of the country. And people thought he meant to repair NO.
Yes, very beautiful and moving. I loved the title character. Very well played.
And of course, Kurosawa.
Watch Buchanan call out “Toyota Republicans” for their no cloture vote on the auto bridge loan. YouTube clip
good sentiment, although generally speaking I have absolutely no desire to accord any amount of credit for anything to Buchanan.
Wasn’t it a bunch of Rs pushing the bank bailout? And who the heck was holding up the oversight boss? (Hint: Wasn’t a D.) /s
Strange bedfellows to be sure. Take your allies on the issues you can get them. Good rant though, right? Plus when have you ever seen Elinor and Pat agree?
It helps if you know the rules of the game the Republicans are playing.
It’s important for them to find any way to embarrasses Obama. If Obama gets involved the there will never be a deal. If he doesn’t then they kick the can down to W, who everybody despises.
This is the depth of craveness these people represent.
FITZ!
Buchanan is a complete and utter crazy racist bastard, but he is *not* a mindless party-line Republican tool.
For whatever that’s worth.
re: SouthernDragon @ 20
Great clip. Out of Pat Buchanan’s mouth…
Did someone say FITZ ! ?
Click here for FITZ !
Moyers says “Thanks, but no thanks” to Kevin Martin staying on at FCC…apparently Kevin has offered to be available through the transition. Don’t let the door….
LOL
Eli and company, repeat after me “Barack Obama is not president yet” and keep repeating it until you get it into your head that his role is necessarily limited because of that. Do you honestly believe that he could have swayed Shelby and Demint and the other excrement if he would have made a stronger stand? The real problem here is the lack of leadership in the Senate, mainly Harry Reid’s pathetically weak efforts at getting this legisaltion done. If the Dems do not 86 this eunuch, then Obama is going to have big problems getting anything passed in his administration.
No cheating, I gotta wait til 11.
I got one more for you. Listen to Bob Corker here.
You wouldn’t believe what he says if you didn’t hear it for yourself.
He is such a whiner
OK, SD. Not another word…except Moyers makes me sleep better. Wonder why we never see him on any of the panels, etc. He makes such sense.
Did someone inject a 1% solution of sanity into his brain? Come to think of it, that’s about the percentage apparent in that particular post but, for a thug, I guess a little is better than none.
You might say I’m a promiscuous commenter.
Yep. Typical Friedmaniac. Naomi Klein did the world a great service with her book. The editors at Penquin books should list her as a example in Marx’s Capital where he writes of the dangers of unregulated capitalism.
Obama’s playing chess. I’m willing to give him time to get his pieces on the board. He knows what it’s like to be on the bottom. He’s on our side, and unlike Bill Clinton, who was also on our side, he isn’t trying to make a buck on the side.
“He makes such sense”
That is why you don’t see him on any panels
hey Eli!
“And yet, Dubya was still able to bully and bluster Congress into giving him almost everything he wanted… even after the Democrats were in the majority!”
and see? i think that was all just complicity. I think there was a backroom deal where Pelosi said “you give me THIS, and I won’t impeach, infact, i’ll cover for his sorry ass.”
i think there was a DEAL. and it netter her and others HUGE and screwed those of us who dared to believe.
i hope and pray that’s not Obi’s mo. i do NOT think his win was any kind of deal. it was an outright win.
but if this turns out to be more of the same,
there are going to be pissed Americans like of the type unseen since the original Revolution, imho.
good to c’ya Eli.
just a thought, just an opinion, of which everyone has like that other part, you know.
come on, folks. let’s give eli some more Diggs!
You lurker, you. *g* I occasionally read threads in other blogs and sometimes wonder if there are Lake folk commenting under other names.
So true, but wouldn’t you think there should be some place?
Why must the majority’s progressive agenda always be held hostage by a minority southern party? Why can’t the Democratic leadership figure out how to hold the red staters’ agenda hostage? For instance, I understand there is a ship building facility in Mississippi that builds and repairs Navy ships. Since the Democratic Congress controls the purse, why can’t the Dems figure out how to leverage those ship building contracts in ways that would require Mississippi to change its “right to work” laws? In other words, become a pro-labor state or no federal contracts.
He is very active
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Moyers
Unions should hire Gov. Dean
This is akin to Ian’s first suggestion: Remind Republican senators that budget measures require a simple majority to pass, so the cash flow to their states is vulnerable if they don’t play ball.
So all the weapons are available. Do Reid & co have the brains or balls to use them?
What about all the workers whose livelihood depends on those jobs?
No evidence of it yet.
Such actions would indicate the presence of a spine….a body part noticeably absent in dim pols.
Well, hopefully their senators would give a shit, although I suppose that’s iffy. But if it comes down to a choice between several thousand workers in, say, Kentucky or Alabama, and 3 million workers across the country, then I’d say do it.
I find it very difficult to give two shits about workers/voters in red states who continue to send these ass-holes to Congress who fight against every progressive idea that could help so many in this country.
Reid saw what they did to his predecessor and is a major chickenshit.
There’s that too, but they’re not *all* Republican assholes. Even the reddest states have 35-40% Democrats.
Valid point.
Collective punishment. Dems didn’t work hard enough. /s
Absolutely. Bush was the worst president ever, but he had a lot of help realising that goal. And it was from both parties.
The only thing Bush didn’t get from the Congress was Social Security destruction, er, reform. The Dems actually stood up to him on that one, and it shot their approval rating through the roof. I was seriously expecting the Dems to cave like they usually do in the name of “reform” and “bipartisanship”. But they didn’t.
Dem strategy since summer has been to keep the ship afloat ’til we get the presidency. Except for getting gasoline prices down we really haven’t had a lot of luck. Winning the presidency may have given the country a boost, but that’s not economic. Stabilizing banks with the TARP was helpful, but it didn’t save all of them and the rest aren’t loaning money.
Does crossing one’s fingers count as an economic policy?