In the wake of Mitch McConnell’s wholesale rejection of the terms negotiated between the White House and the Democratic leadership for a Detroit automaker bridge loan (which the House passed yesterday), a new "compromise" bill has emerged, put forward by John Boehner (R-OH), Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN).
Catch this bloviating (PDF):
The only thing crazier than trusting the same management and union officials who got the Big Three into this mess to get them out is trusting a bunch of Washington politicians and bureaucrats – the very same people who ran up a $455 billion deficit last year.
American auto workers and their families deserve better.
There you have it…the GOP is going to save the auto workers from the unions.
They’re demanding benchmarks, including "the companies’ creditors agree to a framework to reduce each company’s indebtedness by at least 1/3."
Well that’s genius. Just as business slows down, creditors of the automakers struggling to keep their own doors open — suppliers — take a huge financial hit.
The UAW holds to concessions already made and further:
- Concedes the elimination of Supplemental Unemployment Benefits;
- Concedes elimination of the Jobs Bank Program;
- Agrees to either reduce company retiree health care obligations or otherwise convert a portion of such obligations into equity; and
- Agrees to reduce wages and benefits to the levels paid by non-Big Three manufacturers.
Oh brilliant. They’ve already eliminated the jobs bank, their wages are already at non-Big Three levels, so what’s left? Screw the old people and the unemployed, at a time when economists and lawmakers are saying that an extending unemployment benefits is a form of economic stimulus that would do the most good.
But wait, now how much would you pay?
Because of the many legal and contractual hurdles to restructuring, the companies are urged to accomplish their restructuring through the use of a pre-packaged bankruptcy or another mechanism to bring all stakeholders to the table for an agreed-upon determination of their future.
Destroy the brand, once and for all. Make sure nobody wants to take the risk of buying an American car, ever again.
These bloviating GOP assholes are playing Russian roulette with the economy.
Dodd and Corker are evidently in negotiations in the Senate to try and reach a compromise. But where, one wonders, is Obama in all of this? It may not be officially his problem, but it is his country.



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I’m sure this’ll get solved the same way rethugs always solve these things.. they’ll extract a ton of pork. Stevens will get his bridge to nowhere, Grassley will get more ethanol credits, Craig will get lounges put into men’s rooms at airports, Vitter will get the best little wh***house in Baton Rouge… nevermind.
I feel like reposting my Boehner Oxdown with some updates…
So which Democrats (well, other than Toad Lieberman, of course) will be joining the Republicans to destroy the Big 3? And aren’t there ANY rational Republicans left at all, who might be willing to cross the aisle on this? The short-sightedness of this makes me nuts…
Landrieu said earlier today she’s on the fence.
If I was Dodd, I would counter with equal demands for the finance/banking industry….
With the state of her state’s economy, how can she be on the fence?
We’ll probably need at least 4 or 5, I’m guessing…
don’t Demsnhave any leverage over the rethugs with TARP? weren’t there rumors that there’s a deal in place giving us some control over release of the next $350 billion tranche?
Lieberman’s actually good on labor issues (yes, it kills me to say it, but it’s true).
Labor is strong in CT, can’t afford to alienate them.
Red state identity wrapped up in union-hating.
its political masochism for both Landrieu and Vitter. There’s a huge GM plant in Shreveport, which will be one of the first ones to be shut down if this debacle continues much longer, and to the best of my knowledge, no other major foreign car manufacturers in their state. Their state’s not in Corker and Shelby’s position, but yet they’re backing their position. Pure ideological stupidity.
Thanks Jane.
Thanks to DWBartoo for opening up the digg
…rooted in racism…
why aren’t there enough votes? i’m hopelessly confused. if bush is willing to sign, we don’t need 60… well, unless the dems don’t plan on passing a bill w/o “bipartisan” support.
just make the fucking Rs filibuster until they decide they’d rather be home for christmas.
what am i missing?
that mentality really saddens me. That state has suffered so much in many respects and their politicos, on both sides of the aisle, seem to pretty dependably do whatever it is that’ll hurt them still more. It’s rather unbelievable.
Isn’t he pretty much doomed anyway? Do you think he has a hope in hell of being reelected? Why would he care about labor at this point?
And in the South, for the GOP base, unions = n****ers and jews and Catholics and communists and all those other non American people who hate God, country and flag.
There’s a lot of Klansmanship under union hating.
Oh I get “what” is pushing Landrieu but like you state, it is pure ideological stupidity.
(klynn shakes head at the craziness…)
Hey, DWBartoo, you out there lurkin’? I’ve got some news for you.
Good evening, Jane;
At some point, hopefully sooner rather than later (as they say), Obama will realize that he does, in fact, have a bully pulpit … and that he MUST make use of it.
I had had hoped he was ‘educable’, but apparently the ‘lessons’ have not yet sunk in … he must understand that the worse things become the more difficult will be ANY ’solutions’ …
One would hope that Obama and his ‘team’ do grasp just how terribly ‘bad’ things could well become … as yet, the public, generally, does not seem to really imagine just how serious a ’situation’ we are in, but the thought is dawning …
Keep pushing Jane. Perhaps it is merely ‘coincidence’, but Obama does appear to ‘hear’ some of the things FDL is saying.
DW
I be.
besides revealing the ugly bigotry, it’s just soooooooo stooooopid. is it really worth suffering the consequences themselves just to see their enemies suffer too?
Shorter Senate Repugs: “Being unemployed is good for America!”
Wow. Hagel defies his leadership.. one for the good guys:
http://money.cnn.com/news/news…..a6d121.htm
“Nebraska’s Hagel says he’s inclined to support automaker bailout, breaking with Senate GOP”
Last Thursday afternoon this tiger showed up at my place, said his name was Feurae. You wouldn’t happen to know anything about that, would ya. *g*
There are a lot of voters who would be really pissed if the republicans decide to destroy the economy after bailing out the monied.
I don’t think this is a good time for them to play Russian Roulette.
I’m thinking that either Obama is planning a speech to lay out the issues before he takes office asking voters to contact their senators, or he has a rescue plan if this vote fails.
How about helping Detroit auto makers become more competitive by removing the tax giveaways the southern, non-union states gave to the foreign companies?
the GOP is fucking crazy if they think their tactics will not produce massive blow back post january 20th. if the GOP does not capitulate on their union busting there ought not to be a single mile of hiway paved nor bridge built with federal tax dollars in states that have two republican senators.
And why the hell aren’t the democrats advertising this fact? Are they short on money?
While I have no love for Mitch McConnell and his crew, I really don’t understand why they weren’t part of the deal-making team in the first place. Weren’t there any Senate Republicans involved? Why was it just the Democratic leadership and the White House?
We need enough level-headed Rethugs to counter whatever mischief McConnell et al have in store for this legislation. Only need 10 to break it off in Shellface’s and Corkhead’s ass.
Huh! I thought you were going to where I was…total union worker strike, no matter the union.
These are the same fools whose arrogant disregard for simple mathematics and business principles created the current meltdown. They are the last people to listen to. Why aren’t the unions and the Democrats saying this? The Republicans are complete screwups but they are getting to call the tune. Insanity. This bodes very badly for us staying out of depression. We are already seeing signs of deflation all over the place. This will just push us over the edge faster.
If he’s gonna make a speech about the auto industry he needs to do it tonight or tomorrow.
Isn’t there still the GM Plant in Bowling Green, KY? The one that builds the Corvettes? I guess McConnell doesn’t really care about the labor vote either. Ideology must trump all!
SD, if you’re interested I posted an Iraq diary at Oxdown…! ;-)
SOP. Democrats come up with some ideas. The White House kicks up a fuss. So the Democrats compromise with the White House. Then the WH doesn’t deliver the votes in the Congress. So Democrats compromise even more with Congressional Republicans and the result if passed is something so far from what is needed that it often is worse than doing nothing at all.
ooo, goin’ there now. Thanks. Sure miss ya at M&C.
Nice, SD, a most handsome tiger.
Shall inform another tiger that his monicker has found another evolved soul …
I note also, SD, that you are now a flautist. A good friend of mine, now deceased, was known as “The Flute Man” for the beauriful instruments he made, usually of bamboo, but he also made several of poplar, just as you describe.
The six-hole bamboo flure that he made expressly for me is inscribed in Mandarin, “The Heart of the Dragon”.
Someday, I should enjoy hearing what sounds you might breathe into it, SD.
hmm.. sudden 11th hour optimism?
“WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Prospects for an auto industry bailout revived in the U.S. Senate on Thursday as surprise negotiations on a compromise moved forward and a vote was possible later in the day. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said on the Senate floor that the deal, if struck, “would overwhelmingly pass” the chamber that just hours ago seemed resigned to sending the automakers back to Detroit empty-handed.”
http://www.reuters.com/article…..CL20081212
the term union has become a perjurative and most people believe the propaganda saying unions are bad
we need a marketing blitz that rivals corporate propaganda macine otherwise collective bargaining becomes extinct
Once I get fully situated and if Jo Fish still wants me, I’ll be back there…! I’m still day-to-day…
Cheney and Bolton went into the republican caucus and tried to sell it, but now the republicans don’t want anything to do with Bushco. They are pretending that they’ve always been independent.
listening to levin today made it clear that it wasn’t that he was trying and failing – he wasn’t even trying. ok, so i guess i can learn to accept that the dems don’t care or are as stupid as rocks
but where the fuck are the unions? didn’t they just spend tens of millions helping elect dems? can’t they mount some kind of a campaign to explain what is happening? do they care more about electing dems then protecting their own workers?
is anyone, outside of blogs and some other alternative media, making a populist argument in support of the workers?
what is happening here? i do not get it.
I think the GOP has gone insane. Maybe we will luck out, or extra brilliant Obmamagical economic management will pull economy out of big slump made bigger by big 3 bankruptcies.
But even so, GOP fingerprints will be all over the destruction of IL, MI, IN and OH economies. People will remember. Some one said the GOP theory is that they will have to move to nonunion states for jobs and dilute the blue state vote? But there will still be people in those states and they will never vote GOP again. When will they be swing states again. And things going well in nonunion states assumes that Toyota and Honda, and others, are not hurt badly if there are massive bankruptcies among suppliers, how likely is that scenario.
Sounds like a desperate plan for a desperate political party.
And that voter dilution plan sounds fishy. Can enough migration happen by 2010, the next census year? If not, then it will happen after, ans the wrecked union states with dislike of GOP will be locked into close to current electoral votes.
Now about competence hearings for the GOP Congressional caucus. The vote is coming up in a few days, and can’t they be locked up for 72 hours of observation?
I’ve a suggestion for Team Obama:
If the Senate Repugs kill the Big 2.5 bailout (as looks likely), and if this feckless malAdministration refuses to use its own powers under TARP to temporarily extend credit to the Big 2.5, then I recommend that Team Obama step up and grab the reins.
To wit:
President Elect Obama sends his high-powered Wall Street heavyweights of Rubin, Sumner, Volcker, soon-to-be Treasury Secretary Geithner to Citigroup, Bank of America, etc. and obtain the necessary short-term loan for the Big 2.5 with the guarantee that the soon-to-be Obama Administration will provide the Federal government payback in January 2009.
After obtaining this short-term loan, President Elect Obama should hold a news conference and tell the Senate Repugs to just fook off!
Maybe Team Obama has something up their sleeves to carry Detroit until after Obama is in power. Buffet or Gates buying up shares?
Which is another whole issue. Prisoners sent to privately held prisons in Georgia. Census calls them residents, so there will be more representation in the House for Georgia.
Not if you can’t find a buyer for your current house, or get financing for a new one…
As selise suggested above, the Democrats are complicit in this. They aren’t fighting on this. They are taking a dive. And like selise, I have no f-ing idea where the unions are.
CNN radio, which I’m listening to, just reported that Corker may just have cut a deal of some type.
I’m more concerned with Baucus and McCaskil then Obama.
Prospects dim for $14 billion auto industry rescue
Your unstoppable honesty is one of the central qualities that makes FDL so attractive.
I found out Thursday morning that my vet had a tiger that had been dropped off by his owners to be euthanized. They got “Chester” when he was a kitten. He’s now 5yo. He’s declawed all around (don’t get me started on that rant). The story I got was that they didn’t break him of the habit of biting while playing as a kitten. My vet won’t euthanize a healthy animal. He’ll keep the animal until a home is found. Feurae had been there 8 weeks. Vet joked that I was used to being bitten so I shouldn’t have any trouble. He spent most of the first 24 hours on the bottom shelf of the kitchen pantry. Lots of growling but no confrontations. I put my hand in to pet him numerous times while he was growling and not once has he made any attempt to bite me. Quite the contrary. Wants lots of attention. Makes me wonder why the old gentleman, he’s 95, was bitten. Yeah, they got this kitten when the guy was 90. I don’t think they were thinking of the animal. He’s as big as my biggest, Ptah. Same corner in both pix.
Thanks for the name. It surely fits and he’s beginning to respond to it.
But even so, GOP fingerprints will be all over the destruction of IL, MI, IN and OH economies.
ads are running here in Indy pretty frequently asking for people to call Lugar to ask him to act responsibly.
Can’t remember whether sponsored by UAW or not….
I couldn’t believe that the judge pay issue was included. But maybe keeping certain judges is mucho importante in future plans???
That was a great post. This saga has no end.
I’m puzzled by that as well. It’s not they don’t have the resources to be fighting this in all media.
Perhaps Dems should get into the habit of denying capital funds for projects in Southastern states, as somebody suggested above. Heck, when climage change starts drowning LA, GA, SC, etc, why should the burden be bourne by the rest of us? They hate guvmint? Well, they don’t have to get its benefits.
Billy Gates who was on CNN’s Blitzer’s Situation Room earlier in the week, came across as just another Repug with statements that the Big 2.5 should be pushed into bankruptcy.
Apparently Billy thinks the US doesn’t need manufacturing and that software is all the country needs.
As a techie myself, the idea of the US subsisting on electrons flashing on and off leaves me gobsmacked.
Billy may be worth billions, but he’s still a fookin’ nerd with no clue about how the real world works.
May all of his investments be in sub-prime mortgages!
Right. He won’t have union members shot if GM and Chrysler file for Chap 11.
I really thought I was going to see a photo of a big tiger. *g*
You should meet my panther.
The craven complicity of the d’s clearly suggests that the Political Cla$$, for the most part, has thrown their ‘lot’ in with America’s Own Ari$tocracy …
The ‘people’ be damned … and they be damned foolish as well if an ‘accounting’ is not insisted upon. Pronto!
Unfortunately, the people simply don’t seem to be able to wrap their minds around the fact that we are being reduced to the level of serfdom, in a new Dark Age, and the ‘masters’ are heartless, cruel and mean-spirited …
Such an awakening awaits us when the ‘truth’ finally dawns …
Just for kicks and giggles, who, besides Kucinich, among the d’s, is consistently ‘there’ for the ‘people’, for the planet and for sanity?
Olbermann is blistering Senate R’s.
With facts – that bastard. /s
Yup, they’ve got spines on order but delivery ain’t until January.
In the meantime the employees of the Big 2.5 and its related supply chain industries will just have to suck it up.
SD, you are, absolutely, the best, and Feurae, being wise, and appreciative, well knows that (as do all tigers who meet you, I am certain).
;~D
I was a bit taken back about that until I read this article.
selise and Hugh excellent questions.
For reasons I cannot fathom, comments to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s blogs regarding helping the big 2.5, are overwhelmingly anti-union. This makes no sense, because Milwaukee is in the heart of the rust belt. Not only does it have a very strong union history, a lot of the blue bloods (who didn’t make it selling beer) made their money supplying Detroit with parts.
IMHO, the vitriol in the Journal Sentinel against
trying propping up the housing bubblebailing out the banks was much, much less.Yes, great segment.
He’s a gorgeous tiger. Why did he bite the previous
ownerstaff and not you? He knew he wanted to you to be his staff.Dogs have owners, tigers have staff and boy can they play it up. heh heh The old guy musta done something. The bite sent him to the ER I’m told, but then he is 95. Feurae’s a talker, as well. He’s not a bit shy about vocalizing for attention. I want to get some pix during the day when there’s some natural light in the place. I’m actually a little disappointed in these nighttime pix. They don’t show just how handsome this guy is with that feather boa tail. Another one that when he closes his eyes his face disappears.
Nah, just doin’ my part. Love the inscription on your flute, by the way.
You’ll tell me when Feure loves the flute playing, won’t you?
Did you happen to hear Carolyn Kilpatrick on the Floor of the House last night? I was mortified, I hope she was stoned, drunk or impaired in some manner, because she was damn near incoherent. The Dem’s are the Washington Generals of Politics! The R’s win when they outnumber D’s and they win when the D’s outnumber them. Micky Z pretty much nailed it when he said, “The next time someone tells you America has a two party system, demand a recount!”
We have to make it the highest priority to pass public financing of campaigns. And that, “my friends” (I’m sorry, I just had to do it) will most certainly prove easier said than done.
no didn’t hear her. but will go looking for it in the archives. if i find it i’ll post the link here in case anyone else wants to see it too. thanks.
here ya go:
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/…..id=8906723
Oh. Bummer.
Yeah, and thanks to the environmentalists, that plant will soon produce high-performing GM products like this.
Sorry Jane, but I stopped caring about the union-busting paranoia. Maybe if the UAW wasn’t so greedy in previous bargaining sessions, this never would have happened. I’ll be at the Nissan dealership test driving a 370Z soon enough…
Make no mistake, this is about political paybacks, not economic policy.
Here’s an email sent out on behalf of Ensign, Shelby, Coburn and DeMint in advance of their press conference Wednesday. Note their No. 1 message.
From:
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:12 AM
To:
Subject: Action Alert — Auto Bailout
Today at noon, Senators Ensign, Shelby, Coburn and DeMint will hold a press conference in the Senate Radio/TV Gallery. They would appreciate our support through messaging and attending the press conference, if possible. The message they want us to deliver is:
1. This is the democrats first opportunity to payoff organized labor after the election. This is a precursor to card check and other items. Republicans should stand firm and take their first shot against organized labor, instead of taking their first blow from it.
2. This rush to judgment is the same thing that happened with the TARP. Members did not have an opportunity to read or digest the legislation and therefore could not understand the consequences of it. We should not rush to pass this because Detroit says the sky is falling.
The sooner you can have press releases and documents like this in the hands of members and the press, the better. Please contact me if you need additional information. Again, the hardest thing for the democrats to do is get 60 votes. If we can hold the Republicans, we can beat this.
Yes, the Corvette assembly plant is still in Bowling Green, Kentucky, as well as a big Ford assembly plant in Louisville. And quite a few automotive part suppliers have plants in Kentucky. A friend at UAW tells me there are about 10,000 UAW retirees in Kentucky. McConnell sure stands up for his constituents.
What could I say to a person who would spend that kind of money on a CAR? Sorry about your PENIS?
I thought it might be. I drove through Bowling Green on maybe the 25th, 30th Anniversary of the Corvette. There were beaucoup primo Corvettes. I was unsure if that plant was still there, after personally witnessing so much corporate slaughter. Will we ever do anything about this or are we all too medicated to ever react? Back, back in the SSRI!
That’s all you can come up with? Grow the hell up, let me enjoy the pleasures of driving.