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	<title>Comments on: Why Surge When the War is Already Lost?</title>
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		<title>By: RAMA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751695</link>
		<dc:creator>RAMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We had a brief–very brief–window immediately after 9/11 when we had a shot at being successful in Afghanistan. It would have been a long, uphill slog, with far less than a 50-50 chance of success. But instead of keeping our eye on the ball that really counted, we had to go careening off after Iraq. There’s not much chance now we’ll do much more than get a lot of our own youngsters killed, along with hundreds or thousands of Afghans. We’ve never been much good at nation building (Haiti is the prime example of how clueless we are at the job) so it’s not likely we would have succeeded in Afghanistan n matter what. But at least we had a chance back then. Now, we’ve got nothing and we’ll get nothing out of the exercise except more grief.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a brief–very brief–window immediately after 9/11 when we had a shot at being successful in Afghanistan. It would have been a long, uphill slog, with far less than a 50-50 chance of success. But instead of keeping our eye on the ball that really counted, we had to go careening off after Iraq. There’s not much chance now we’ll do much more than get a lot of our own youngsters killed, along with hundreds or thousands of Afghans. We’ve never been much good at nation building (Haiti is the prime example of how clueless we are at the job) so it’s not likely we would have succeeded in Afghanistan n matter what. But at least we had a chance back then. Now, we’ve got nothing and we’ll get nothing out of the exercise except more grief.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751668</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s the mentality that says, “We’ll succeed where others have failed dismally.  Screw the history, we can do anything.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s the mentality that says, “We’ll succeed where others have failed dismally.  Screw the history, we can do anything.”</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751657</link>
		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You summed it up beautifully, bb!  Btw, nobody has ever ‘conquered’ Afghanistan, why don’t we realize it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You summed it up beautifully, bb!  Btw, nobody has ever ‘conquered’ Afghanistan, why don’t we realize it?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Doty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751655</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah.  I know nothing of the national org.  My local group seems postive and engaged.  Appreciate the feedback, katymine.  (And hope all is going well with you.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  I know nothing of the national org.  My local group seems postive and engaged.  Appreciate the feedback, katymine.  (And hope all is going well with you.)</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751651</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So CIA sends Bhutto into Pakistan from England to be our puppet. That was a high risk operation and they threw her under the bus…there was no secret service protecting her. Now with her husband at the helm where is the cooperation? Not happening. The people in that regio n realise from our history we consistantly put the shive in our allies. The foriegn policy leave our foriegn service with no leverage. Look at the outing of our oww by our own. This is really disgusting and worse devastating to our foriegn service. Screwed rude and tatoed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So CIA sends Bhutto into Pakistan from England to be our puppet. That was a high risk operation and they threw her under the bus…there was no secret service protecting her. Now with her husband at the helm where is the cooperation? Not happening. The people in that regio n realise from our history we consistantly put the shive in our allies. The foriegn policy leave our foriegn service with no leverage. Look at the outing of our oww by our own. This is really disgusting and worse devastating to our foriegn service. Screwed rude and tatoed.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751650</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mayhaps we could get Michael Parenti to chat with us.  I’d suggest Robert Fisk but he doesn’t do computers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayhaps we could get Michael Parenti to chat with us.  I’d suggest Robert Fisk but he doesn’t do computers.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751649</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bushco set up a white house office tasked with creatinf plans to overthrow many counties it is against all imternational law/ Pelosi, Reid. Hoyer are part of a greater conspiracy…that is why Peach Pie is off of her table.&lt;br /&gt;
In other words they are ready to move on all resources not well protected.&lt;br /&gt;
Russia was quite stupid to be greedy and go into Afghanistan. They were pretty well positioned in cebtral asia where the oil and gas pools are.&lt;br /&gt;
Greed and power are the drivers. It has cost us world leadership.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bushco set up a white house office tasked with creatinf plans to overthrow many counties it is against all imternational law/ Pelosi, Reid. Hoyer are part of a greater conspiracy…that is why Peach Pie is off of her table.<br />
In other words they are ready to move on all resources not well protected.<br />
Russia was quite stupid to be greedy and go into Afghanistan. They were pretty well positioned in cebtral asia where the oil and gas pools are.<br />
Greed and power are the drivers. It has cost us world leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: katymine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751648</link>
		<dc:creator>katymine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those people couldn’t find there way out of a wet paper bag….. sorry….. the only thing that PDA does is protest……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people couldn’t find there way out of a wet paper bag….. sorry….. the only thing that PDA does is protest……</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751646</link>
		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I received several invites here locally…!  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received several invites here locally…!  ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/why-surge-when-the-war-is-already-lost/#comment-1751641</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting!</p>
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