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	<title>Comments on: Want Something Fixed? Make Sure Important People Have Skin In the Game</title>
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		<title>By: someofparts</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1752179</link>
		<dc:creator>someofparts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Elites having skin in the game explains the different histories of Atlanta and Birmingham. Birmingham elites stayed in Pittsburg, so to them Birmingham was just a colony. Atlanta’s rulers live in the city, so we got things like the Olympics, CDC, Emory University and relentless commercial boosterism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course lately we also got the most hardcore Republicans and so many real estate developers that Tom Wolfe came to town to study their excesses. It is still better than the deal Birmingham got, but just because big money monkeys care about your town doesn’t mean they have much sense or judgement.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elites having skin in the game explains the different histories of Atlanta and Birmingham. Birmingham elites stayed in Pittsburg, so to them Birmingham was just a colony. Atlanta’s rulers live in the city, so we got things like the Olympics, CDC, Emory University and relentless commercial boosterism. </p>
<p>Of course lately we also got the most hardcore Republicans and so many real estate developers that Tom Wolfe came to town to study their excesses. It is still better than the deal Birmingham got, but just because big money monkeys care about your town doesn’t mean they have much sense or judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffWegerson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1752113</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffWegerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ha! I’m a Canadian consumer not a Canadian producer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I’m a Canadian consumer not a Canadian producer.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751818</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You should try one yourself.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And I have the same deal with links on my Mac, too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/" rel="nofollow">You should try one yourself.</a></p>
<p>And I have the same deal with links on my Mac, too.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffWegerson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751813</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffWegerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok it’s just the preview mode that breaks the link.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok it’s just the preview mode that breaks the link.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffWegerson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751811</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffWegerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok here’s a linkthat might have an effect on you Ian. Apparently we are dealing with five or so separate concepts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Note: the damn tilde is causing it not to work. Cut and paste it into the address bar manually)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are five distinct words here. When “affect” is accented on the final syllable (a-FECT), it is usually a verb meaning “have an influence on”: “The million-dollar donation from the industrialist did not affect my vote against the Clean Air Act.” […]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok here’s a linkthat might have an effect on you Ian. Apparently we are dealing with five or so separate concepts.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html</a></p>
<p>(Note: the damn tilde is causing it not to work. Cut and paste it into the address bar manually)</p>
<blockquote><p>There are five distinct words here. When “affect” is accented on the final syllable (a-FECT), it is usually a verb meaning “have an influence on”: “The million-dollar donation from the industrialist did not affect my vote against the Clean Air Act.” […]</p>
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		<title>By: JeffWegerson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751805</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffWegerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pretty basic stuff and almost common wisdom. A good solid post but not spectacular.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m really waiting for a follow-on post about Canada. But then I suppose everyone is waiting for another shoe to drop there now that Mean Jean has sided with Harper.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty basic stuff and almost common wisdom. A good solid post but not spectacular.</p>
<p>I’m really waiting for a follow-on post about Canada. But then I suppose everyone is waiting for another shoe to drop there now that Mean Jean has sided with Harper.</p>
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		<title>By: AngryB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751803</link>
		<dc:creator>AngryB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok here is idea.  It is the money that makes those who are “elite” separate from us mortals.  It will be short of impossible to get them to participate in the mortal life, if for no other reason than they have the means to avoid any “skin in the game”, regardless  of what we legislate.  So how do you level the playing field.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now for the answer, though it might seem JUST A TAD extreme.  Make everything free - but with a caveat  - don’t work (with some obvious exceptions) and you don’t get it for free.  In fact you don’t get anything but the very basics, if you decide not to work.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problems you solve are too numerous to list, but an easy way to image it, is only to recall how many times you hear that the way to solve the “problem” what ever that might be, is to have the money.  Be it a hugh stimulus package, or your kids education, or your health care.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know, this sounds pretty silly.  But staying the course, which right now in the midst of a global recession, would probably include every horror story you can imagine, is not only silly (in the most perverted sense of humor), but by all definitions, is insane.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They say movies are nothing more than a reflection of life.  Or in the case of Star Trek, a reflection of the future, and they did not use money any more.  How or when that happens is never really told, but who’s to say that the time isn’t now, and the way, well, I think we can come up with a way, don’t you.      Food for thought.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS:  In seriousness, while this is not be seen as  a realistic approach by most, if not all thinking “adults”, maybe starting a dialog will bring an interesting set of possibilities.  The screenwriters of Star Trek thought it was a good idea when thinking up a possible futuristic world.  What is to stop us from that considering that idea as a reality.  Remember money is not a natural occurrence, it is man made, and therefore, man is capable of changing it or eliminating it altogether.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok here is idea.  It is the money that makes those who are “elite” separate from us mortals.  It will be short of impossible to get them to participate in the mortal life, if for no other reason than they have the means to avoid any “skin in the game”, regardless  of what we legislate.  So how do you level the playing field.</p>
<p>Now for the answer, though it might seem JUST A TAD extreme.  Make everything free &#8211; but with a caveat  &#8211; don’t work (with some obvious exceptions) and you don’t get it for free.  In fact you don’t get anything but the very basics, if you decide not to work.</p>
<p>The problems you solve are too numerous to list, but an easy way to image it, is only to recall how many times you hear that the way to solve the “problem” what ever that might be, is to have the money.  Be it a hugh stimulus package, or your kids education, or your health care.</p>
<p>I know, this sounds pretty silly.  But staying the course, which right now in the midst of a global recession, would probably include every horror story you can imagine, is not only silly (in the most perverted sense of humor), but by all definitions, is insane.   </p>
<p>They say movies are nothing more than a reflection of life.  Or in the case of Star Trek, a reflection of the future, and they did not use money any more.  How or when that happens is never really told, but who’s to say that the time isn’t now, and the way, well, I think we can come up with a way, don’t you.      Food for thought.</p>
<p>PS:  In seriousness, while this is not be seen as  a realistic approach by most, if not all thinking “adults”, maybe starting a dialog will bring an interesting set of possibilities.  The screenwriters of Star Trek thought it was a good idea when thinking up a possible futuristic world.  What is to stop us from that considering that idea as a reality.  Remember money is not a natural occurrence, it is man made, and therefore, man is capable of changing it or eliminating it altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751785</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Linguistics aside, what do you think of the post?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And welcome.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linguistics aside, what do you think of the post?</p>
<p>And welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: JeffWegerson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751773</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffWegerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 06:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“affected by”! Ian as long as I keep reading you I’m going to keep hounding you on your use of affected and effected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Google: “are not effected by” 37,000 - “are not affected by” 3 million.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your easiest solution is to always use “affected” since it is 5 times as common as “effected”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, that’s the ticket. Never again use “effected” and you’ll decrease your mistakes by a factor of five!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately “effect” is four times as common as “affect.” And since you have a usage block with the word, and now that you know to switch usage, you are going to not be able to remember which one to switch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh brother, I don’t know why I bother.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“affected by”! Ian as long as I keep reading you I’m going to keep hounding you on your use of affected and effected.</p>
<p>Google: “are not effected by” 37,000 &#8211; “are not affected by” 3 million.</p>
<p>Your easiest solution is to always use “affected” since it is 5 times as common as “effected”.</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s the ticket. Never again use “effected” and you’ll decrease your mistakes by a factor of five!</p>
<p>Unfortunately “effect” is four times as common as “affect.” And since you have a usage block with the word, and now that you know to switch usage, you are going to not be able to remember which one to switch.</p>
<p>Oh brother, I don’t know why I bother.</p>
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		<title>By: pluege</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/want-something-fixed-make-sure-important-people-have-skin-in-the-game/#comment-1751660</link>
		<dc:creator>pluege</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Principle: when elites are not effected by a problem they have a lot less incentive to fix the problem.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Solution: eliminate elites through massively progressive taxation. If they want to stay, they’ll pay and everyone including them will be better off. If not, they’ll leave and not come back: good riddens.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Principle: when elites are not effected by a problem they have a lot less incentive to fix the problem.</em></p>
<p>Solution: eliminate elites through massively progressive taxation. If they want to stay, they’ll pay and everyone including them will be better off. If not, they’ll leave and not come back: good riddens.</p>
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