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	<title>Comments on: Gee, Maybe Holder&#8217;s Nomination is in More Trouble Than I Thought?</title>
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		<title>By: Arbusto</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1752117</link>
		<dc:creator>Arbusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Two items on pardons:&lt;br /&gt;
1)  Remember, many believe George the First pardoned the Iran/Contra crew to shield his illegal actions.&lt;br /&gt;
2)  DC hypocrisy:  nary a word for eight years on Halliburtons dealings with Iran  during Darths’ reign.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two items on pardons:<br />
1)  Remember, many believe George the First pardoned the Iran/Contra crew to shield his illegal actions.<br />
2)  DC hypocrisy:  nary a word for eight years on Halliburtons dealings with Iran  during Darths’ reign.</p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751755</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lipsky admits that he considers Rich and Rich’s partner and co-felon Pincus to be friends and offers as a justification for the pardons the fact that Israeli officials backed it. Since when do leaders of foreign countries get to decide matters of US criminal justice? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IOKIYAJ??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lipsky admits that he considers Rich and Rich’s partner and co-felon Pincus to be friends and offers as a justification for the pardons the fact that Israeli officials backed it. Since when do leaders of foreign countries get to decide matters of US criminal justice? </p>
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<p>IOKIYAJ??</p>
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		<title>By: Jkat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751742</link>
		<dc:creator>Jkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oh yeah .. well just try saying “robber-barron-baby-bumpers” three times real fast eh ?? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so there … yeah .. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yeah .. well just try saying “robber-barron-baby-bumpers” three times real fast eh ?? </p>
<p>so there … yeah .. :)</p>
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		<title>By: acquarius74</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751732</link>
		<dc:creator>acquarius74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 05:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ve been trying to figure out why Obama chose Holder but I can’t get it to working for me.  Why Holder with his baggage and not someone like Bruce Fein?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For many years I was dedicated to finding the roots to a sibling’s schizophrenia.  I figured some of it out, but lots remain in only her world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes, it’s a lot like your statement, Hugh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been trying to figure out why Obama chose Holder but I can’t get it to working for me.  Why Holder with his baggage and not someone like Bruce Fein?</p>
<p>For many years I was dedicated to finding the roots to a sibling’s schizophrenia.  I figured some of it out, but lots remain in only her world.</p>
<p>Yes, it’s a lot like your statement, Hugh.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751671</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LHP,&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe somebody is worried that somebody elses are paying attention to us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LHP,<br />
Maybe somebody is worried that somebody elses are paying attention to us.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751665</link>
		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whatever happened to noblesse oblige?&lt;br /&gt;
Has it been replaced by “Go for the Gusto!” and “The Devil take the hindmost”?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe we need a revival of the phrase “robber baron.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to noblesse oblige?<br />
Has it been replaced by “Go for the Gusto!” and “The Devil take the hindmost”?</p>
<p>Maybe we need a revival of the phrase “robber baron.” </p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: MrWhy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751661</link>
		<dc:creator>MrWhy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Holder doesn’t pass, and Napolitano isn’t available (she’ll already be at DHS), you need to find a replacement. Deval Patrick and Artur Davis are the other names I recall being mentioned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Holder doesn’t pass, and Napolitano isn’t available (she’ll already be at DHS), you need to find a replacement. Deval Patrick and Artur Davis are the other names I recall being mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751656</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/left-handed-marriage-in-peril/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;teddy’s upstairs&lt;/a&gt; with left-handed marriage in peril&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/left-handed-marriage-in-peril/" rel="nofollow">teddy’s upstairs</a> with left-handed marriage in peril</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751653</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m beginning to think this clown is trying to bait Mr Obama into defending Clinton, giving the Clintonistas on both sides more fodder to rant on.  The reichwingers have no issues which have proven other than disasters so it’s just a constant parade of character attacks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m beginning to think this clown is trying to bait Mr Obama into defending Clinton, giving the Clintonistas on both sides more fodder to rant on.  The reichwingers have no issues which have proven other than disasters so it’s just a constant parade of character attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Peterr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/07/gee-maybe-holders-nomination-is-in-more-trouble-than-i-thought/#comment-1751642</link>
		<dc:creator>Peterr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;From the op-ed:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If Mr. Obama fails to defend Mr. Holder and President Clinton, he will endanger the very power he is soon to inherit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Uh, no.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That power to pardon will belong to Mr. Obama, regardless of whether he continues to back Mr. Holder or not. That power to pardon will be absolute, whether he continues to back Mr. Holder or not. The only limit on that power to pardon, apart from cases of impeachment, is political: is a president who exercises the pardon power willing to take the heat for his or her decisions?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And whether or not Obama continues to back Mr. Holder, that limit will continue to be present — and whether or not Mr. Holder becomes the Attorney General will not change that one whit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the op-ed:</p>
<blockquote><p>If Mr. Obama fails to defend Mr. Holder and President Clinton, he will endanger the very power he is soon to inherit.</p>
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<p>Uh, no.</p>
<p>That power to pardon will belong to Mr. Obama, regardless of whether he continues to back Mr. Holder or not. That power to pardon will be absolute, whether he continues to back Mr. Holder or not. The only limit on that power to pardon, apart from cases of impeachment, is political: is a president who exercises the pardon power willing to take the heat for his or her decisions?</p>
<p>And whether or not Obama continues to back Mr. Holder, that limit will continue to be present — and whether or not Mr. Holder becomes the Attorney General will not change that one whit.</p>
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