Comments on: Congressional Dems Agree to Auto Bridge Plan http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:32:21 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: gbsavatar http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1750182 gbsavatar Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:42:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1750182 <p>Since the workers will get at most 10% of the money, why not pay them not to work and save the remaining 90% and the endless support of another group pf corrupt corporations?</p> Since the workers will get at most 10% of the money, why not pay them not to work and save the remaining 90% and the endless support of another group pf corrupt corporations?

]]> By: Primrose http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749709 Primrose Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:26:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749709 <p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/05/AR2008120502533.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....id=topnews</a></p> http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews

]]> By: Primrose http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749708 Primrose Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:24:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749708 <p>Ian, I guess you’ve seen this <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/05/AR2008120502533.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow"></a>?</p> Ian, I guess you’ve seen this ?

]]> By: Blub http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749707 Blub Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:23:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749707 <p>which makes it all the more interesting for our ruling thugs to systematically manipulate ;-P. ohhhh, in about 20 years, the down elevators outside the pearly gates are gonna be real busy, indeed…</p> which makes it all the more interesting for our ruling thugs to systematically manipulate ;-P. ohhhh, in about 20 years, the down elevators outside the pearly gates are gonna be real busy, indeed…

]]> By: foothillsmike http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749706 foothillsmike Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:16:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749706 <p>A great deal of the expenditures / payments are reliant on the the inflation figures. Last year SS went up 2.8% this did not even cover meds.</p> A great deal of the expenditures / payments are reliant on the the inflation figures. Last year SS went up 2.8% this did not even cover meds.

]]> By: Blub http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749704 Blub Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:12:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749704 <p>yeah, but fortunately inaccuracy (due to essentially random delays in reporting and data collection, particularly around the holiday season, does not necessarily mean that its easier to systematically manipulate.</p> <p>The mystery black box stuff like inflation, energy efficiency, etc., I’m not sure about. I think some 26 year old Regent U grad just makes half of these numbers up. I was at a lecture a while ago where a Harvard economist of some prominence noted that some aspects of US economic, health, welfare and environmental reporting have, since 2004, gotten as questionable as those of Communist China.</p> yeah, but fortunately inaccuracy (due to essentially random delays in reporting and data collection, particularly around the holiday season, does not necessarily mean that its easier to systematically manipulate.

The mystery black box stuff like inflation, energy efficiency, etc., I’m not sure about. I think some 26 year old Regent U grad just makes half of these numbers up. I was at a lecture a while ago where a Harvard economist of some prominence noted that some aspects of US economic, health, welfare and environmental reporting have, since 2004, gotten as questionable as those of Communist China.

]]> By: BargainCountertenor http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749703 BargainCountertenor Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:11:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749703 <p>eCAHN,</p> <p>Don’t let HTML beat you up. The paragraph tag is a P enclosed in angle brackets, it takes an optional alignment parameter, as:</p> <p>[P align=left] or<br /> [P align=right] or<br /> [P align=center].</p> <p>Of course the angle brackets are used in lieu of the square ones I used.</p> <p>Good article, by the way.</p> eCAHN,

Don’t let HTML beat you up. The paragraph tag is a P enclosed in angle brackets, it takes an optional alignment parameter, as:

[P align=left] or
[P align=right] or
[P align=center].

Of course the angle brackets are used in lieu of the square ones I used.

Good article, by the way.

]]> By: Ian Welsh http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749702 Ian Welsh Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:10:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749702 <p>inflation stats are manipulated pretty much all the time.</p> <p>The reason NBER used GNI (gross national income) instead of GDP to declare the recession is that GNI uses a different inflation index and is thus not nearly as manipulated as GDP, which is a BS stat.</p> inflation stats are manipulated pretty much all the time.

The reason NBER used GNI (gross national income) instead of GDP to declare the recession is that GNI uses a different inflation index and is thus not nearly as manipulated as GDP, which is a BS stat.

]]> By: Blub http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749700 Blub Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:05:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749700 <p>oh I absolutely agree… and inflation, unlike BLS unemployment claims data, is actually fairly easy to manipulate, since only a very few people keep track of index weight changes and nobody really seems to know how they chain weight with hedonics anyway. This being said, I’m not a GDP macroeconomics expert and I know only just enough of the math and data collection/processing procedures to be thoroughly confused by them.</p> oh I absolutely agree… and inflation, unlike BLS unemployment claims data, is actually fairly easy to manipulate, since only a very few people keep track of index weight changes and nobody really seems to know how they chain weight with hedonics anyway. This being said, I’m not a GDP macroeconomics expert and I know only just enough of the math and data collection/processing procedures to be thoroughly confused by them.

]]> By: ratfood http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749701 ratfood Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:05:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/congressional-dems-agree-to-auto-bridge-plan/#comment-1749701 <p>Pretty high-stakes game of chicken they’re playing.</p> Pretty high-stakes game of chicken they’re playing.

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