Comments on: Barney Frank: Democrats Tell Bush To Go Cheney Himself http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:32:41 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: mookieblaylock http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1750192 mookieblaylock Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:55:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1750192 <p>how pathetic. Defending this guy after he gave the keys to the treasury to obvious crooks. That’s why we have these corrupt actors like reid and pelosi. They talk tal talk but in the end they serve another master. How pathetic,unreal.</p> how pathetic. Defending this guy after he gave the keys to the treasury to obvious crooks. That’s why we have these corrupt actors like reid and pelosi. They talk tal talk but in the end they serve another master. How pathetic,unreal.

]]> By: Jane Hamsher http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1750042 Jane Hamsher Sat, 06 Dec 2008 14:22:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1750042 <p>Agree totally.</p> Agree totally.

]]> By: klynn http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749940 klynn Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:52:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749940 <p>Jane,</p> <p>I almost noted yesterday that during the House hearings I noticed a C-SPAN schedule change about midway through which was an updated version of the Voinivich-Levin press conference but dated yesterday (early morning).</p> <p>Is it my understanding as well that Labor was suppose to release their data on Monday but got it out early to make a point loud and clear?</p> <p>I think they knew what they were doing before the hearings. I think the hearings were PR to all the citizens stating they did not want a bailout.</p> Jane,

I almost noted yesterday that during the House hearings I noticed a C-SPAN schedule change about midway through which was an updated version of the Voinivich-Levin press conference but dated yesterday (early morning).

Is it my understanding as well that Labor was suppose to release their data on Monday but got it out early to make a point loud and clear?

I think they knew what they were doing before the hearings. I think the hearings were PR to all the citizens stating they did not want a bailout.

]]> By: bluebutterfly http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749926 bluebutterfly Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:22:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749926 <p>They have an action letter here:</p> <p><a href="http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/autojobs" rel="nofollow">http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/autojobs</a></p> They have an action letter here:

http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/autojobs

]]> By: mbayrob http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749922 mbayrob Sat, 06 Dec 2008 09:52:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749922 <p>You’re possibly right. But if you are, the UAW is getting some pretty f**king bad advice.</p> <p>It’s too late to say we need to keep this “non-partisan”. The GOP has clearly decided that it is, and they’ve decided to bring guns to the knife fight.</p> You’re possibly right. But if you are, the UAW is getting some pretty f**king bad advice.

It’s too late to say we need to keep this “non-partisan”. The GOP has clearly decided that it is, and they’ve decided to bring guns to the knife fight.

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749882 newtonusr Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:33:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749882 <p>I think you’re on to something, but there’s the possibility that they are taking their cues from Congressional Dems… probably told to keep a low profile until after the 20th.<br /> Congressional Dems = kiss of death, imo.</p> I think you’re on to something, but there’s the possibility that they are taking their cues from Congressional Dems… probably told to keep a low profile until after the 20th.
Congressional Dems = kiss of death, imo.

]]> By: mbayrob http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749878 mbayrob Sat, 06 Dec 2008 08:21:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749878 <p>One thing that increasingly bothers me about this whole thing — the UAW is practically invisible, especially in any forum where the union could rally support from progressive groups, or sites like this or DKos.</p> <p>If anybody has connections with the UAW, ask ‘em: WTF?</p> <p>This really <i>should</i> be like the fight over Social Security 3 years back, but it isn’t: there’s no focus to the effort among activists. UAW involvement by explaining its case to folks like us would help a lot. But they aren’t doing it.</p> <p>Anyone have any ideas?</p> One thing that increasingly bothers me about this whole thing — the UAW is practically invisible, especially in any forum where the union could rally support from progressive groups, or sites like this or DKos.

If anybody has connections with the UAW, ask ‘em: WTF?

This really should be like the fight over Social Security 3 years back, but it isn’t: there’s no focus to the effort among activists. UAW involvement by explaining its case to folks like us would help a lot. But they aren’t doing it.

Anyone have any ideas?

]]> By: Gerald http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749852 Gerald Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:49:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749852 <p>Of course the Democrats will be able to get most anything they want next year. They will have 58 or 59 votes in the Senate.</p> <p>I just think that they just didn’t want to cross the Greens by using the 25 Billion that had been designated for more efficient cars.</p> <p>Bush just wanted them to have to walk on the other of the street from where he was walking.</p> <p>They can put 100 Billion back in that fund next year when he is gone.</p> Of course the Democrats will be able to get most anything they want next year. They will have 58 or 59 votes in the Senate.

I just think that they just didn’t want to cross the Greens by using the 25 Billion that had been designated for more efficient cars.

Bush just wanted them to have to walk on the other of the street from where he was walking.

They can put 100 Billion back in that fund next year when he is gone.

]]> By: neurophius http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749842 neurophius Sat, 06 Dec 2008 07:30:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749842 <p><a href="http://digg.com/politics/Barney_Frank_Democrats_Tell_Bush_To_Go_Cheney_Himself" rel="nofollow">Dugg it!</a></p> Dugg it!

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749795 newtonusr Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:16:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/05/barney-frank-democrats-tell-bush-to-go-cheney-himself/#comment-1749795 <blockquote><p>“We will use the money from the 25 billion that was put in there to make them energy efficient — however, we will reserve the right <strong>next year when we have a better president and a better congress</strong> to replace that $25 billion from the TARP. They won’t be able to stop us then. We aren’t asking them to sign off on it, we’re simply giving notice that that’s something we have the option of doing later.”</p></blockquote> <p>As in, less chance for the Republicans in Congress to obstruct, and zero chance that the <em>then</em>-President will not sign off.</p> <p>“…we’re simply giving notice that that’s something we have the option of doing later.”</p> <p>Now is irrelevant.</p>

“We will use the money from the 25 billion that was put in there to make them energy efficient — however, we will reserve the right next year when we have a better president and a better congress to replace that $25 billion from the TARP. They won’t be able to stop us then. We aren’t asking them to sign off on it, we’re simply giving notice that that’s something we have the option of doing later.”

As in, less chance for the Republicans in Congress to obstruct, and zero chance that the then-President will not sign off.

“…we’re simply giving notice that that’s something we have the option of doing later.”

Now is irrelevant.

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