In most of FL, away from Miami and Orlando, there is one rule, and one rule only: be a good neighbor.
If you do that, they don’t care how many sheets you cut into robes.

since Obama…will use the office of the presidency to turn America into a failed socialist nation.

That’s much worse than Bush turning America into a failed fascist nation.

Anybody that doesn’t think Jeb is going to run in 2012 better wake up. The campaign has already started.

damn.

Hi, Selise!
Jeb plans to ride in on a white horse to save the Rep. Party. I’d be shocked if Poppy wasn’t pushing him to save the Bush name.

Oh my. This could be far better than Racists for Ron Paul. Certainly beats Rev. Wright hands down. I may buy popcorn for the Florida Senatorial race.

The Forty Stooges it seems to me. Stooge = Republican

Hi, Doc! If I were a betting man, and I am, I’d bet Jeb could wipe the floor with anyone the democrats could field against him here. They love him here…The thing in Fl is…this place has been the last refuge of criminals on the run, pirates, smugglers, con artists, and blah blah blah, for 400 years….and there is a fundamental ethic here that says we would really rather not know, as long as you’re a good neighbor.

I’m enjoying it already. As soon as I saw the magic words Sid Dinerstein over at C&L, I was all atwitter.

I’ve been following the NBRA and their previous incarnation (which was founded to get Trent Lott off the hook for the censorship thing) for years. Who knew they were going to inject themselves as such a great time.

He was supposed to be the candidate to begin with, but he lost that first race.

One of the few times I’ve almost felt sorry for W was when they interviewed his father about his becoming president, and his father told the interviewer that he’d always expected Jeb to be the one to succeed, and that it was W made him feel as if his kid had failed all his math tests and inexplicably come home with an A+ on his report card.

There are, though, Tales about Jeb. I was barely paying attention to him and I have lots of ammunition already.

So you are suggesting that Hiaasen does not really exaggerate in his novels? From what little I have seen of politics down there, I can see where you are coming from. A really nasty campaign that brings out all of his unsavory associations, however, could kill his chances nationally. I think he still has an eye on redeeming his idiot brother there.

Jeb is only a slightly more sympathetic character than W because he hasn’t been president. If Jeb had been running the country for the past 8 years, we’d be similarly screwed.

Florida politics must be more fun than a barrel of monkeys. Living in Los Angelses most of my life, I have to drive out about thirty miles out to run into a bunch of these conservative and white supremacist folks.

Oh, I think we would have been screwed far more thoroughly. I really think Dubya’s incompetence actually saved us from far worse.

It’s balanced somewhat by the fact that Jeb probably wouldn’t have had a Cheney in command.

she-iitt .. all the repubblies need now is a national chairman named “orwell” ..

ummmm.. orwell stooge .. yep .. that’d do it ..

great to see you RonD. even if you bring crappy news about jeb.

In some ways Cheney’s insane imperial ambitions were a distraction from the main business of the corporate rape of America. All the bullshit Dubya is trying to push through at the last minute would have been accomplished in Jeb’s first term.

Oh, I’m not very sympathetic. The saga of Jeb’s appointee to Children and Family Services, one of the founders of FRC, who believed in beating children and the total subsevience of women (and that the state had no right to intervene in how a parent chooses to abuse their children absent a conviction, which of course they were precluded from seeking) and lost hundreds of children (most of the ones they eventually found were alive) before being fired for taking money from state contractors.

Then there was all that money they funneled into Neil’s pockets for underperforming school software, the huge amounts of Homeland Security money that didn’t secure the ports, the massive number of fraudulent claims for hurricane damage that were never challenged so Jeb! could sail back into office…

No, not very sympathetic at all.

AND he could pardon his kid for forging scrips.

They must install a Bush, any Bush in office asap…! Their string has been severed…

Ugh, they should be listed under the heading of “notorious crime families.”

Hi Ron

Have you read Rethug flack political editor Adam Smith’s love piece today in the Times? If not. Guy makes me wanna heave. Neg comments to the article all day have run 10 to 1. They didn’t print mine, prolly cuz I criticized Smith and invoked Terri Schiavo’s name.

If they follow the pattern of recent political dynasties, the next step is for Laura to run for the Senate.

Bluntly, and I don’t wish her ill, I suspect that someone who daddy got out of it when she was caught using in her diversion program might not to last long enough to be pardoned.

I think that they already have a permanent place among the Lords of the Underworld.

And Enron and Pension funds.

There is more to Obama’s election than his being black. The fact that he is black or half black, was just a bonus in the gaint fuck you delivered to the Washington and good old boy establishment.

Unfortunately we may be the losers in our fuck you vote…as Obama seems to have exhumed the hack mummies from the establishment crypt to staff his adminstration.

We will see.

Obama was elected cause he played all the usual power structure. It wasnt a DC FU, but rather as Dc embrace you. Biz as usual.

Damn. Gotta run. See all later.

Time for me to crawl into my tree, too.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

Night.

That’s sort of my take, although I think it’s not so much specifically DC, but the fact that he’s very, very good at working out what he has to do to make people who can help him feel as if he’s on their side.

I suspect, though, that he’s going to start hearing some stuff he doesn’t like to hear pretty soon – like No, or I don’t care if you piss off the left, I don’t like you anyway – and I suspect that there may be a dip in the conciliation level at some point.

Aloha, SD!

I think O is a capitalist tool and doesn’t care wtf the left thinks of him.

C!

Bear in mind that Obama is a Chicago Machine politician. They are, with important pro-labor exceptions, generally pro-business centrists and he seems to follow the general mold. They also play seriously hardball politics there. Do not for a second underestimate Obama’s toughness. He did not get where he is today by being soft.

I’m staying as agnostic as possible.

I am, though, sure that he really, _really_ doesn’t like it when people he thinks Matter don’t get with the program.

I wouldn’t put it quite that strongly, but you are not far off. I do think he is pro-labor in important ways (trade, unions, health care, etc.). Like most Chicago pols, he carefully straddles the line between the two biggest constituencies of the political machine.

It’s Thersday, so Thers is upstairs!
In Defense of the Presentable

Any evidence that Obama is prolabor? His medical plan is pretty anit-labor for one example.

I don’t think I follow your logic on this. He is for fair trade treaties with labor and environmental protections for one and has come out in favor of card check.

obama can’t do it all by himself .. the congress has to get oof it’s butt and reassert some authority ..

i’ll give them the traditional 100 days before lowering the hammer .. but damn some things have to get done .. both done right and quickly .. our collective asses are really in a crack here ..

what we don’t need is “bipartisanship” at the expense of making this victory into nothing ..

i’m hoping obama is a good field general ..and lucky as hell to boot ..

He’ll have to fight off Smilin’ Tim Pawlenty, who will gladly let his own state starve just to keep his no-tax cred with the rabid base.

….”I would describe myself as a white person who is concerned about discrimination against white people”

Oy. It makes my head hurt.