Comments on: Going out with a Bang Fetish http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:29:49 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bluebutterfly http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747574 bluebutterfly Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:52:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747574 <p>Money talks and he walks…</p> Money talks and he walks…

]]> By: Knut http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747546 Knut Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:21:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747546 <p>The administration on this axis is setting up traps for the new Obama administration, the way Dole set up Clinton on the gays in the military. They want to put Obama between a rock and a hard place. My guess is that Obama will stick it back in their faces by rescinding the order. This will enrage the base, which as we say, ‘must be good for the Republicans’, but hard to see how it will help them anywhere else.</p> The administration on this axis is setting up traps for the new Obama administration, the way Dole set up Clinton on the gays in the military. They want to put Obama between a rock and a hard place. My guess is that Obama will stick it back in their faces by rescinding the order. This will enrage the base, which as we say, ‘must be good for the Republicans’, but hard to see how it will help them anywhere else.

]]> By: gtomkins http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747527 gtomkins Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:13:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747527 <p>Wow!</p> <p>So, now that we have this “conscience” rule in place for physicians, can I refuse to participate in schemes imposed by private insurers that distort the care I provide patients away from a sound standard of care just so that the insurer can chisel a few bucks off the sick?</p> <p>No?!</p> <p>Oh, wait, I forgot. We’re talking freedom of religion here, and I forgot that the Golden Rule applies — “He who has the gold, makes the rules.”</p> Wow!

So, now that we have this “conscience” rule in place for physicians, can I refuse to participate in schemes imposed by private insurers that distort the care I provide patients away from a sound standard of care just so that the insurer can chisel a few bucks off the sick?

No?!

Oh, wait, I forgot. We’re talking freedom of religion here, and I forgot that the Golden Rule applies — “He who has the gold, makes the rules.”

]]> By: Kassandra http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747520 Kassandra Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:09:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747520 <p>My fave is the Cohen piece. And I hope Obama signs the International Court ratification. Then, even if America doesn’t have the guts to prosecute these people, sometime down the road, the ICC could get them.<br /> “Of the many issues that have soured relations between Europe and the United States under the Bush administration, few have been as poisonous as America’s refusal to join the world’s first permanent war crimes court here. The snub has been seen as a symbol of U.S. contempt for the rule of law.”<br /><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/03/opinion/edcohen.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.iht.com/articles/20.....dcohen.php</a><br /> It’s rather ingenious for Cohen to be suggesting this backdoor way for the prosecution of war crimes even if Mukasey (urp) doesn’t “think” there is any justifiable basis for prosecution.</p> <p>That said, I truly do wonder if a blanket repeal of all these unconstitutional “rules” signed by an out-going “administration” will be done. It’s all busy work and it all depends on whether Obama remains true to what he said in his nomination speech with all the retreads from the past who “wouldn’t know change if it slapped them upside the head.”<br /><a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081215/scheer?rel=hp_picks" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenation.com/doc/2.....l=hp_picks</a></p> My fave is the Cohen piece. And I hope Obama signs the International Court ratification. Then, even if America doesn’t have the guts to prosecute these people, sometime down the road, the ICC could get them.
“Of the many issues that have soured relations between Europe and the United States under the Bush administration, few have been as poisonous as America’s refusal to join the world’s first permanent war crimes court here. The snub has been seen as a symbol of U.S. contempt for the rule of law.”
http://www.iht.com/articles/20…..dcohen.php
It’s rather ingenious for Cohen to be suggesting this backdoor way for the prosecution of war crimes even if Mukasey (urp) doesn’t “think” there is any justifiable basis for prosecution.

That said, I truly do wonder if a blanket repeal of all these unconstitutional “rules” signed by an out-going “administration” will be done. It’s all busy work and it all depends on whether Obama remains true to what he said in his nomination speech with all the retreads from the past who “wouldn’t know change if it slapped them upside the head.”
http://www.thenation.com/doc/2…..l=hp_picks

]]> By: gbsavatar http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747499 gbsavatar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:55:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747499 <p>You can’t fix stupid. *g*</p> You can’t fix stupid. *g*

]]> By: RevBev http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747425 RevBev Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:37:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747425 <p>Good Morning…Is anyone still here? What a terrible image to start the day. Yuk</p> Good Morning…Is anyone still here? What a terrible image to start the day. Yuk

]]> By: tjbs http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747423 tjbs Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:30:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747423 <p>What happens when some mini-post-president goes in for treatment of a heart attack and the staff finds it morally objectionable to treat a war criminal who is personally responsible for over a million death in Iraq.<br /> Works for me.</p> What happens when some mini-post-president goes in for treatment of a heart attack and the staff finds it morally objectionable to treat a war criminal who is personally responsible for over a million death in Iraq.
Works for me.

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747407 KayInMaine Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:59:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747407 <p>Any medical procedure found morally objectionable? Great. Just great. How many right wing doctors will refuse to treat patients who have this ‘disease’:</p> <p>LIBERALISM!</p> <p>I’m sure George Bush wouldn’t object either. Asshole.</p> Any medical procedure found morally objectionable? Great. Just great. How many right wing doctors will refuse to treat patients who have this ‘disease’:

LIBERALISM!

I’m sure George Bush wouldn’t object either. Asshole.

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747405 perris Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:43:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747405 <blockquote><p>Impeach only if to stop him from trying to pardon himself.</p></blockquote> <p>the way I read that law, he is only prohibited from pardoning himself against an impeachment, the process of impeachment does not prevent him from pardoning himself from the crimes he is being impeached for</p> <p>ianal</p>

Impeach only if to stop him from trying to pardon himself.

the way I read that law, he is only prohibited from pardoning himself against an impeachment, the process of impeachment does not prevent him from pardoning himself from the crimes he is being impeached for

ianal

]]> By: foothillsmike http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747404 foothillsmike Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:39:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/going-out-with-a-bang-fetish/#comment-1747404 <p>The rethugs don’t want to raise them thar IQs> That is the real amerika don’t ya know.</p> The rethugs don’t want to raise them thar IQs> That is the real amerika don’t ya know.

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