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	<title>Comments on: Geithner: Kick Bair Out For Trying to Help Homeowners</title>
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		<title>By: Kassandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748888</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hope not&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope not</p>
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		<title>By: Kassandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748883</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good link here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/04/dems-give-white-house-ult_n_148614.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....48614.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
FINALLY!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good link here:<br /><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/04/dems-give-white-house-ult_n_148614.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/&#8230;..48614.html</a><br />
FINALLY!</p>
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		<title>By: Watson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748477</link>
		<dc:creator>Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Roubini’s prescription in the linked article is: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;‘First the fiscal stimulus &lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[this is Krugman’s mantra]&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;em&gt;because the troubled economy is in a freefall, so we really need to boost aggregate demand, and the sooner and larger the better. The second thing they should do is recapitalize the financial system.’&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
My (non-expert) take is that the stimulus, which is supposed to be aimed at Main Street, and is opposed by BushCo, doesn’t have sufficient support in the present Congress, and possibly won’t in the next one. And we can’t assume that Rubin/Summers/Geithner (&amp; Obama?) will support a stimulus on the scale that Roubini/Krugman say is necessary to rescue Main Street. (Rubin vetoed Clinton’s first term public works promises, declaring that priority had to be given to reducing Reagan’s deficits.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;‘Recapitalizing the financial system’ is what Rubin/Summers/Paulson, etc (&amp; Obama?) are all about. Despite Wall Street’s recklessness, insolvency, dishonesty, and self-dealing, our reigning economic theory dictates that we must re-prime the pump with unlimited public money, and re-start the trickle-down.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roubini’s prescription in the linked article is: </p>
<p><em>‘First the fiscal stimulus </em><strong>[this is Krugman’s mantra]</strong>, <em>because the troubled economy is in a freefall, so we really need to boost aggregate demand, and the sooner and larger the better. The second thing they should do is recapitalize the financial system.’<br /></em><br />
My (non-expert) take is that the stimulus, which is supposed to be aimed at Main Street, and is opposed by BushCo, doesn’t have sufficient support in the present Congress, and possibly won’t in the next one. And we can’t assume that Rubin/Summers/Geithner (&amp; Obama?) will support a stimulus on the scale that Roubini/Krugman say is necessary to rescue Main Street. (Rubin vetoed Clinton’s first term public works promises, declaring that priority had to be given to reducing Reagan’s deficits.)</p>
<p>‘Recapitalizing the financial system’ is what Rubin/Summers/Paulson, etc (&amp; Obama?) are all about. Despite Wall Street’s recklessness, insolvency, dishonesty, and self-dealing, our reigning economic theory dictates that we must re-prime the pump with unlimited public money, and re-start the trickle-down.</p>
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		<title>By: BillE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BillE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My problem with Geithner, Summers, Rubin, etc. is they are the ones who brought us this mess.  They represent the rich.  The rich Hooverites don’t actually mind the cleansing effect of a hard recession/depression.  They will always only propose solutions like corporate tax cuts and spending cuts ( which would make things worse as the govt is the spender of last resort) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think its possible this is what they have wanted for sometime.  The idea of starving the beast has permeated their thought processes for a long time.  Remember these are the people who think the constitution was lost since FDR’s time ( Commerce clause based congressional lawmaking )  The history of the US includes a number of deflationary periods (1873 was particularly vicious)  Their ancestors where not part of the 25 % unemployed, evicted, foreclosed on, and otherwise beaten down in the 1929-1933 time period.  Even though there are “liberal” and “conservative” economists saying we need a big stimulus, economics also has a political dimension.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another small mater here is that if Obama pulls off an economic miracle then GOP is not only a rump party buy officially toast.  They will do almost anything to prevent  BO from having a good term so they have something to run on in 2010 and 2012.  Don’t expect the honeymoon to last very long.  And with Conservative Dems in the senate don’t expect much to pass very quickly mandate or no.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we are screwed, hope to be proven wrong though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bille&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with Geithner, Summers, Rubin, etc. is they are the ones who brought us this mess.  They represent the rich.  The rich Hooverites don’t actually mind the cleansing effect of a hard recession/depression.  They will always only propose solutions like corporate tax cuts and spending cuts ( which would make things worse as the govt is the spender of last resort) </p>
<p>I think its possible this is what they have wanted for sometime.  The idea of starving the beast has permeated their thought processes for a long time.  Remember these are the people who think the constitution was lost since FDR’s time ( Commerce clause based congressional lawmaking )  The history of the US includes a number of deflationary periods (1873 was particularly vicious)  Their ancestors where not part of the 25 % unemployed, evicted, foreclosed on, and otherwise beaten down in the 1929-1933 time period.  Even though there are “liberal” and “conservative” economists saying we need a big stimulus, economics also has a political dimension.</p>
<p>Another small mater here is that if Obama pulls off an economic miracle then GOP is not only a rump party buy officially toast.  They will do almost anything to prevent  BO from having a good term so they have something to run on in 2010 and 2012.  Don’t expect the honeymoon to last very long.  And with Conservative Dems in the senate don’t expect much to pass very quickly mandate or no.  </p>
<p>I think we are screwed, hope to be proven wrong though.</p>
<p>bille</p>
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		<title>By: mercury</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748394</link>
		<dc:creator>mercury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m pretty much a neanderthal when it comes to economics, but I read this on Roubini’s opinion of Obama’s picks, including Geithner…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsweek.com/id/170712&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.newsweek.com/id/170712&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thoughts, experts?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m pretty much a neanderthal when it comes to economics, but I read this on Roubini’s opinion of Obama’s picks, including Geithner…</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/170712" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/170712</a></p>
<p>Thoughts, experts?</p>
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		<title>By: Watson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748371</link>
		<dc:creator>Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A little birdie told me that in fact Ms. Bair does not play nice in the sand box.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I think that the significance of this beef is that the turf she happens to be defending is an interface of government and Main Street, while Geithner, who I agree is  a  Rubin/Summers stand-in, represents the casino monetarism of the FIRE interests on Wall Street.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little birdie told me that in fact Ms. Bair does not play nice in the sand box.</p>
<p>But I think that the significance of this beef is that the turf she happens to be defending is an interface of government and Main Street, while Geithner, who I agree is  a  Rubin/Summers stand-in, represents the casino monetarism of the FIRE interests on Wall Street.</p>
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		<title>By: Otay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Someone remind me why Obama picked Geithner (a Paulson sidekick) for Treasury and Bob Rubin (who along with Alan Greenspan enacted the deregulations which have put us in our present financial mess) for an advisor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone remind me why Obama picked Geithner (a Paulson sidekick) for Treasury and Bob Rubin (who along with Alan Greenspan enacted the deregulations which have put us in our present financial mess) for an advisor.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748085</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;though i was alone down here just muttering to myself. *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though i was alone down here just muttering to myself. *g*</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748076</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL well some of us read them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL well some of us read them.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/04/geithner-kick-bair-out-for-trying-to-help-homeowners/#comment-1748073</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;guess i better quit, since i’m the only one going to be reading my own links….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guess i better quit, since i’m the only one going to be reading my own links….</p>
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