It doesn’t matter what journalist you speak to these days, they’re all freaked out about the cutbacks at every traditional media outlet around. Massive layoffs this week are rumored to be hitting a variety of publications. Circulations, and ad sales, are falling. Meanwhile, online readership — and online ad sales — continue to climb.
James Boyce addresses one of the consequences of this:
We are all journalists now. The border has been erased completely.
But the death spiral of legacy media makes the traditional political media self-congratulatory parade all the more painful to watch. While online news sites, I’m thinking Firedoglake for example, with great writers like Christy Hardin-Smith and Jane Hamsher, are getting 60,000 plus readers a day, noted DC pundits are writing for magazines and newspapers whose circulation is slipping fast and already, from a political readership point of view, well below that.
When the daily readership of the Huffington Post is 5 times that of the Boston Globe, who should get an interview first?
When the daily readership of Daily Kos is 20% higher than the LA Times, whose endorsement will matter more?
Now, many legacy media folks will be grinning now, scratching their heads, and dismissing my talk as the rantings of a lunatic.
But it’s not me speaking, it’s the marketplace screaming out loud.
David Sirota recently wrote about how the incoming Obama administration is largely staffed with conservative policy people, and progressive political appointments — i.e., the people crafting policy are essentially conservative, while the people tasked with packaging and selling the policy are progressives:
While there’s not enough evidence to declare a full-on "trend" in the incoming Obama White House, it is notable that Obama’s policy appointments (ie. Cabinet secretaries and White House policy advisers who actually craft policy) are almost all right-of-center, Establishment choices – and almost none are, as The Nation’s Chris Hayes has said, movement progressives. At the same time, many Obama appointments to exclusively political positions – that is, positions that are focused on selling policy, whatever that policy may be – are terrific movement progressives, people like Mike Lux (transition outreach to progressive orgs), Ellen Moran (communications director), Phil Schiliro (congressional liason) and Patrick Gaspard (political director). In other words, the initial structure seems to resemble the principle in American politics of politicians publicly selling their policies in progressive terms, while having those policies be crafted with much more conservative ideology.
The question remains, Sirota noted, as to how they will function together. Will the political people have any power of their own, or will they merely be considered pitchmen who are supposed to make bitter conservative pills easier for progressives to swallow?
We got to see the machinery in action yesterday, when Pach wrote a post about his inquiry to the progressive pitchmen asking for confirmation about Obama’s commitment to the Employee Free Choice Act after Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel did not mention it as one of the administration’s priorities and implied that they might be willing to trade it for health care.
The spokespeople said that they weren’t empowered to respond.
Yet today, a statement was given to Sam Stein of the Huffington Post confirming Team Obama’s commitment to Employee Free Choice.
It appears that even though the progressive "handlers" have no power, the question Pach publicly asked reverberated at a level that someone thought it demanded an answer.
And in the process, questions asked by Boyce and Sirota got answered too, I think.
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Good Morning Jane….
Those readership levels for here, the huffington post and dailykos, are they how many times some one brings up this page? Because through out the day i close this web browser and then bring it back up to read this website. I am only one reader, so does reopening this website count me or anyone else as more than one reader?
Turning point of news gathering and dissemination: Dec 3, 2008.Marked by Jane Hamsher, Firedoglake.
Great catches, great analysis, Jane.
Jane, you have done a great job in competing with the oligarchy of power. Congratulations on this minor, but important victory. I now understand the Hampshire motto of “Live Free or Die“.
All markets are being rocked on their heals, and the world will never be the same.
Remember how Napster kicked-off the “race to zero” where the price of music is concerned?
Now Match.com is under attack by totally free alternatives.
In the case of FDL, Rawstory, HuffPo, etc, it’s not only that the information provided is free, it’s also better. The writing is superb, and the community provides research, links and blended context from all points of view…not just what the Plutocrats want us to know.
The gatekeepers will not tolerate this situation for much longer. Beware the crackdown.
Exactly. Obama will feign support for EFCA to placate the left, but he won’t lobby Congress for it like he did for the bailout. I’m reading Paul Street’s book and I think he nails Obama.
Will the political people…merely be considered pitchmen who are supposed to make bitter conservative pills easier for progressives to swallow?
architects sometimes struggle with the interface between the edges of a building and the surrounding site. wrapping a ring of plants around the base of the building to mask this transition is called “putting parsley around the pig”.
Speaking only for myself, I think they have ways of determining whether you are a new visitor to the site each day or keep coming back for more. If your browser is set-up to do so (as my FireFox is), you can see some of the various tools loading when a page is opening (SiteMeter, Google-analytics, etc) and those are able to ID Unique visits to a site, page views, and other goodies for tracking readership.
If you’ve ever noticed the ads at FDL and other sites, those tools are necessary to be able to tell the advertisers information about the readers, visits, page views, etc.
Sounds like a must read. Can you give us a short version?
Obama administration is in day -49 and maybe it is the state of where my mind is but I’m not going to get my panties in a wad yet…….
Now if one of the leaders of congress Pelosi or Reid said that they were going to kill Employee Free choice legislation then I would be concerned…..
Going to wait and see….. going to see how Obama Administration actually works and what the outcome before getting too aggitated….
I left ya my e-mail addy here
Have a great day !
Jane, you are the future.
What are your distribution costs? – web hosting, and your readers pay for distribution (internet) and their own PC.
What are the paper media’s distribution costs, Printing, distribution, and the reader pays a subscription.
There’s your “unfair advantage”. The paper media’s costs are killing them. They are the buggy whips of our time.
For those who are interested in Obama’s record in more detail, here’s an informative reader review of Street’s book.
http://www.amazon.com/review/p…..ddFourStar
great stuff about you guys. deserved.
ja ever think though of all the little boys and girls who won’t get to be paper deliverers which was a part of youth as much as picking your nose and putting it under the desk?
Last night my late local newscaster breathlessly told me that the New York Times said that David Gregory would now helm Meet the Press. Of course, I knew this 36 hours earlier, thanks to Huffington Post. Additionally, Huffington Post lacks an embarrassing recent aluminum tubes scandal, since Judy Miller never worked there. Their newsgathering is better, and they lack the error-prone editorial opinings of Bill Kristol, as well.
Faster and more authoritative? Sounds like a winning business model to me….
I was elsewhere on the tubes, but it looks like you answered your own question. Short version: Obama makes a lot of progressive noises but when push comes to shove he backs the establishment that funded him. “Stealth DLC,” like I said last year.
Yes. Thanks. I have been suspicious of him from Day One, but didn’t know why. Now the evidence is accumulating. I am not surprised. We have our work cut out.
This is a very interesting time, and confusing for many as well. My father for example pines for the days when you could trust the gatekeepers. he doesn’t like blogs and thinks they’re irresponsible, but he has no answer for “what about Judy Miller?” He loves tom friedman even though he acknowledges Tommy’s been wrong about the big things. he just isn’t able to see that the gatekeepers aren’t trustworthy.
on the other hand, it’s also interesting on our side of the divide. I’ve joined up with a couple of other bloggers in the philly area to form our own echo chamber, to promote the stories we think are important, and to make our print media even more irrelevant than they already are (and believe me, the Philadelphia daily news and the Inquirer are not worth the paper they’re printed on).
It’s done these days by people driving cars, and subscription billing is done by mail or, maybe, online.
I doubt that the kids would miss delivering papers in the rain, or being stiffed by a subscriber for the month’s deliveries.
I keep hoping Obama will “rise to the office” a la FDR. But the jury is out on that.
Heh. Hope! How many Friedman Units before that becomes a 4-letter word?
yup. and i was a poll junkie during the elction. got more at KOS, 538, here. could go directly to the pollsters sites.
Hey, I’m audacious! ;)
There were many who pined for the horse & carriage in the auto era too.
Me too. And that circumstance will force a progressive turn. . .
I’m depressed.
paul street was here for book salon in october.
It’s even rare to learn anything new on Keith or Rachel. I appreciate their analysis though.
Wish I could get my dad to read FDL and other sites online. He’s always been an LA Times and New Yorker reader, so he’d love the perspective here.
What bothers me most about dying print journalism is its vicious resentment blogs. They refuse to admit the merit in what is happening online, yet they will freely plagerize good reporting.
Slow typer here..left you a response too slow. In answer to ongoing learning, don’t wait for welfare costs where Palin is concerned. Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez is supplying free heating oil for the poor in Alaskan villages; for the third year in a row. Sarah does not care about the poor..an affliction shared by the majority of politicians.
The Employee Free Choice situation with the Pach post and then the statement today is a very hopeful sign.
We’re asked to believe that all the long-time insiders that Obama is selecting is related to their knowledge of the system, and not their ideology… well, OK; we’ll see. maybe it’s a sign of more progressive things to come.
All this “reading the tea leaves,” think I’ll go make some.
While online news sites, I’m thinking Firedoglake for example, with great writers like Christy Hardin-Smith and Jane Hamsher, are getting 60,000 plus readers a day, noted DC pundits are writing for magazines and newspapers whose circulation is slipping fast and already, from a political readership point of view, well below that.
My bold It is not the numbers of newspapers George Will is in rather it is the number of people who read that section of the newspaper.
The Chicago Tribune did research my old boss told me on who reads what part of the paper. The crossword puzzle for example has a surprisingly high number of readers.
I wonder what the exact numbers are for people who buy the paper and read the political commentary every day, a few times a week, once a week etc vs people who read the Lake a few times a day, once a day, a few times a week etc?
the potential conflict i see is that the interests of those paying the bills (the advertisers) are not aligned with the interest of the readers.
Not to mention that we get to “speak” with elected officials, authors, reporters, etc. right here at FDL! I notice that a lot of other blogs have replicated this too.
It’s the MSM’s own fault. There hasn’t been any decent reporting in a very long time, and their arrogance and mediocrity have damaged them irretrievably. How many times has the MSM been wrong and has never apologised?
You forgot Bobo remember his bit about how Bush was Not getting credit for the Great economy. …Bwahahaha!
I don’t understand, however, where professional full-time correspondents come from and how they earn a living, pay for travel expenses, etc., by means of the new media.
If print journalists would tell the truth then they would have lots of money because people would want to read their papers. Simple solution but one that will not happen as long as they say what they are told to say.
This has been going on for a long long time..the lies and deceptions. Phil and Katherine Graham from the Washington Post started the trend of telling the public only what the gov’t line of propaganda was. Operation Mockingbird never went away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
That’s a typical problem with third party payer situations. Industrial organization field in economics studied the advertising model. I made a desultory effort to look for it years ago, including asking my ind org prof (the only economics course in graduate school that was worthwhile), but didn’t find it. He claimed it was in the textbooks he used but it wasn’t.
I’ll go look at the Street book salon, which I missed. And then maybe I’ll look online for the advertising model analysis.
Judy Miller still has a Pulitzer Prize for NY Times WMD stories and now she has a movie. But yeah you are right when I look for news I come here.
They also keep bringing back the mistake makers and there is no accountability.
Thanks. Didn’t know that about Chavez & Alaska, but what about the rest of the Alaskans, when their oil “royalties” go down?
I’m gonna check out something else, but I’ll be back.
oops..forgot to leave the link for the article about the free heating oil..
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/604080.html
I don’t understand what makes Bobo ad George Will qualified to write about anything? What expertise, what real world accomplishments, what track record of predictions/being right do they have?
No, I’m not talking about editorialists. I’m talking about reporters and correspondents. In the most extreme example, war correspondents. who pays for people who can write, are eductated, and interested, to travel for weeks, months, years, to travel to distant areas while supporting themselves and their families?
Hi Jane…great great post.
“…pitchmen who are supposed to make bitter conservative pills easier for progressives to swallow?”
S long as the tar labels used by the right to demean the”left” are allowed to get traction the PR war is lost. Having better tar words than they do might be a winner as distasteful as it is. Good good work. Thank you. BB
One of the things that you only touched briefly on is that the quality of the reporting on the blogs (this one and others) is often better than in the traditional media. Firedoglake and emptywheel had the best coverage anywhere of the betrayal of Valerie Plame. And right now, talkingpointsmemo is in the process of smoking out the Senator who’s holding up the oversight of the bailout. If the traditional media would do its damn job, it might not be in the death spiral that it’s in right now.
Dunno where I’ve been, but I’d never even heard of Mockingbird! Thanks.
Sorry for the multiple run-on sentences, but my question is hopefully understandable.
The news organization they work for.
Thank you Jane. This is good news indeed.
It’s now like, instead of ‘I Am Spartacus!’, we get our own OpEd. Or Ed! Plus maybe a slave revolt against the bluemeanies ISPs. (This phase of) blogging is quickly melding voice/video/transcript, which would have the cream rising to the top, whose cream will be elite performers. iPhone-phriendly. Yes, and in the morning I’ll still be literate?
That’s disturbing. That sounds like doctors working for insurance companies and monitoring patients, telling their doctors they don’t needs this or that, when they do.
BTW. Do we really have to go though *Rahm Emmanuel* for Obama policy questions? I am gonna be sick.
Oh, I guess I misunderstood the subject. I thought the news organizations were the old media which are collapsing due to lackeof advertising and circulation.
Eventually the dinasaurs were doomed to extinction regardless of quality IMO. The toobz provide a much better infrastructure for distributing information.
A nasty piece of work..lies have been fed to the public since 1949. Scary as heck, isn’t it? I am sure that the majority of people have never heard of it. A nice expose of Katharine Harris is here if you are interested.
http://www.disinfo.com/archive…..index.html
I need sleep…I meant to say Katharine Graham..
Palin sells all Alaska’s surplus to Asia so I have no idea on royalities. I would imagine it would depend on how long these contracts are for and any clauses in them that makes prices change when the price of oil changes.
Nobody called her on this during the campaign when she kept saying “oil independence for the US”.
http://www.time.com/time/polit…..html?imw=Y
They are and they are cutting back on foreign reporters too.
Will the MSM be approaching the government looking for a bailout? Wouldn’t it be fun to talk about their mismanagement and incompetence. Could they provide an answer to why they have slipped to 36 th place in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R…..ut_Borders
what book ius this? can’t find it in my library.
You are correct, and also, the fact that someone would return to a site many times in one day is useful information.
The blogs are a replacement for the discourse that used to take place in town squares, and meeting halls,hell,even on front porches or over the fenceline. (I know that’s not a new revelation,but it is still a valid one.)However, as the corporatacracy and the kakocracy have commandeered the FCC in recent years(Aren’t the public airwaves supposed to belong to the public?),and newswires have either shut down shop or merged,as TV networks have, the free and fair exchange of VARIED viewpoints has made the exchange of ideas in a civilized and democratic society nigh to impossible,and rendered most programming as propaganda tools with a profit driven agenda. The blogs are the FINEST expression of what for the most part has been a Machiavellin legacy of the “Free Market Theory”.But just how long will the Internet remain”Free?”
So, that goes back to my original question. How will that missing link of primary reporting and correspondence be replaced in the absence of the legacy media? It seems to me that a large percentage of the commentary and information in the blogs comes from raw data first obtained through the MSM. Although I’m not any crazier than anyone else about some of the editorials and biased reporting, I’m not sure we should get too exuberant about the total demise of that system. Perhaps some new system of obtaining raw data would evelve, but I don’t know what it would be.
All this time, many of us in the blogoshpere(I hate that word) have been concerned with Big Brother watching us. Now,WE are Big Brother watching THEM–Man, that shoe pinches when it’s on the other foot! Lets buy ‘em a new pair of shoes, and this time,make ‘em a couple of sizes smaller,if you please.
I read yesterday that McClatchy was teaming up with Christian Science Monitor. I ALWAYS liked McClatchy.
Ever hear the quote that if a man wants a “fair” press, he’s gotta OWN it?
Net neutrality advocates in charge of Obama team review of the FCC.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok…..ality.html
Muchas Gracias! Many thanks! Merci Beaucoup Danke Schoen!BTW,is there a thread on this,or has there been in the past,here? I’m kind of recent here, But I LUV me some Ms Hamsher! Thanx.
Last night Keith had on some dude who’d just written a biography of Rupert Murdoch. The guy says Rupert is seriously eying the NYT.
Now wouldn’t THAT be something!
center for american progress is mentioned in that wapo article today which has obama sending hundreds of people into government agencies to assess the situation.
im surprised nobody realized exactly what this means. THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS! as magnificently LIBERAL as it gets.
what it tells me is that obama is keeping the water still on top by appointing ‘centrists’ at the desk, while putting TRUE liberals behind the scenes actually building the widgets.
i was worried before, but after seeing the people who gave us Christy Harvey ! ! ! ! are the ones with their snouts in the transition.
THAT is change, that we should all celebrate. if the foxbots and gop liters want to go on tv and pretend that obama has “Screwed over the base” i say let them. at least it gives them something to do.
i for one am THRILLED at this development
if you havent read it, the article can be found here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..d=topnews#