Imus hectoring Matalin this morning about Obama’s choices.

Matalin sayin’: he calls it pragmatic, I call it “center right”

There you go again….another Rethug, making up her own framing.

Funny, I saw Carville on the street in the French Quarter last week and I just couldn’t ask him how he could stand it!

manipulative witch

prolly just as well, there’s no accounting for what gets some people off.

Isn’t a picture of Carlson slated to be in the next Webster’s Dictionary edition next to the entry for “asshole”?

Good morning.

SC gov on WJ got it up the you know what from the first & last callers. (Couldn’t watch the middle.) He said let the market work, gov is bad, Fannie Freddie … Callers said all the money from the workers went to the top 10% and what should we do, wait for another R depression?

So sorry for you folks in SC.

Any idea why Martinez is throwing in the towel *before* the end of his term — what’s up with that?

Maybe he doesn’t Stand for it. Maybe he Lies for it.
I know. Ew.

I thought he is retiring at the end of his term in 2010. Is that incorrect?

must be tough to decide which R goes there.

The Bush Crime family made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

Limpy Limbaugh and his vast array of imitators are working hard to name it the Obama Depression. Facts never deter that group.

Obama will own it soon enough if he doesn’t get the economy out of it.

In honor of what brought me to Firedoglake, ie. the Libby Trial,
Another Rove article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..47923.html
Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President known Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction, the United States would not have gone to war.

hmm
yesterday I read he was leaving earlier than 2010, I’ll see if I can find it.

REVISIONIST HISTORY

Not what it sez in his wiki.

Rovisionist history

Elliott,
Will Martinez be named HUD Secy by Obama in his spirit of pastpartisanship?

I know that’s what he’s trying to do, but, but…
It makes my head spin that so much time and effort was spent trying to let the president know that there really weren’t any WMD and then the aftermath.
That’s a really ginormous revision, isn’t it?

democracynow.org is interviewing the author of the book that sez torture doesn’t work in interrogations.

like I said, can’t remember where I read that, apparently that’s not the case.

Here’s some tidbits from the Sarasota paper

Martinez has some of the lowest approval ratings of any member of the U.S. Senate and of any statewide elected official in Florida, making his re-election prospects in 2010 anything but certain.
…
A Quinnipiac University poll taken last month showed only 36 percent said Martinez should be re-elected.
…
Ingram, the GOP consultant, said if Martinez ran again he could have been easily painted as the typical Washington insider because of how infrequently he toured the state and his close association with the Bush family.

Ingram said the only surprise was how early the announcement came. He said most expected Martinez to wait until early 2009.

Betcha Jeb Bush runs
Will no one rid us of this family. Haven’t the Bushes sucked enough of our blood to last them for eternity?

That’s a really ginormous revision, isn’t it?

Funny, I was reading Digby’s take on Tucker, and I felt that huge had to be replaced with ginormous. Synchronised swimming…

George W Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Ave

Please return to sender
recipient not at this address

ouch!

Yep. Jeb is Latino by injestion. Right after he comes out from his shadow govt.

If Obama doesn’t name Martinez as secy of HUD (that experience thing, doncha know), then I’m sure Martinez will make a lot of money lobbying his D colleagues in the senate.

They make up their own reality and the M$M cheerfully proseletyzes it.

Dick Gregory coming up on Imus. Livestreamed here.

Heard a bit of Gregory from back in the day on a special show Michele Norris put together for NPR. He’s a national treasure.

injection, not injestion

If Barack Obama is going ‘center right’ then the right wingers in America have to love him now. See? We have to push this by pointing it out to them that if Barack stays in Iraq or if there is an attack on our nation, they must smack on their US flag pins and praise Jesus for their president!

Mary Matalin included. She needs to bow to her ‘center right’ president!

Okay, going to work. Have a great day everyone! ;-)

Ellie – he’s just following along with the rest of them – look at the robocall that the Rep. from Colorado did: “I used to be…” — quitters.

Demi – I haven’t had my coffee yet; I’m no good at dealing with lies this early in the morning without my coffee.

What I’m hearing is that he sees the writing on the wall and wants to give the FL Rethugs time to work up a campaign. Jeb is making a fortune running his venture capital firm and by the look of his puffy jowls doing quite well at it. The FL Rethugs aren’t happy with Martinez. Sink has said she won’t run and all the other Dem names I’ve heard are just plain lame. Lot of infighting at local and state Dem party level. The worker bees are furious at the performance of party leadership. Very little coattail effect. Weak campaigns, all the normal stuff.

Great solution to bailout problems.

Imagine a R W clone being umpopular. Who could have anticipated …

Collective conscious?
It’s also a really fun word. Taught it my friend’s 3 year old recently.

Obama will own it soon enough if he doesn’t get the economy out of it.

A National need to start another “Hugh’s” list:

Hedge funds – locked in leveraged insolvency

Investment banks – insolvent

Banks – liquidity locked

Industrial concerns – liquidity lock dries up operating capital

Mortgage/Real estate – in gridlock, depressing spiral

Consumer spending – decreasing rapidly, insecurity driven, income at 1980 levels, Home ATM ceased functioning.

Government spending – in hiatus to provide Iraq/Afghan operations, attempted “bailout” of investment banks and hedge funds.

Personal credit – used up

Governmental credit – at great risk from tsunami of dollar printing.

Things not yet considered

Will Jeb be named to replace him?

making gobs of money after leaving office is apparently part of the job description of Congressman or Senator.

And even if the financial system were functioning, there is no visible means of support for consumer spending, which is the underpinning of the economy.

He’s not resigning.

ahh, thanks for the inside dope.

Oh, Jeb Bush in the Obama cabinet! What a delicious thought!

Collective conscious?

There are times when I feel i’m collectively unconscious. Specially this time of day. ;-))

Karl Rove said on Tuesday evening that had the President known Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction, the United States would not have gone to war.

That’s one of them interestin’ questions. Would we the Bushie Crime Family have gone to war, if Saddam did not have WMD’s. Kommander Screwup Guy was planning this quagmire from day one, as Paul O,Neill Sec. of Treasury has claimed. The 30 or 40 intelligence agencies of the US Government, did correctly determine Saddam had no WMD’s. But Liar Guy is trying a “do over” with the truth, again.

Asked if he would have ordered the U.S.-led invasion if intelligence reports had accurately indicated that Saddam did not have the weapons, Bush replied: “You know, that’s an interesting question. That is a do-over that I can’t do. It’s hard for me to speculate.”

What about Wasserman? Would she have a chance?

He is going to serve out the remainder of his term. Will not run again.

A large Mortgage lender in England is giving a six month reprieve to those in danger of foreclosure. Those damn socialists!

Hi Toby.
Sorry, hon. I don’t think there is enough coffee in the universe. Or mood changing pills or anything else.
Maybe I should stay away from reading about all the lovely parting gift interviews/stories.
It’s too late baby, now, it’s too late.

You put it so much better. ;-)

God forbid

My barfometer went off the scale.

30 years of writing reports and giving presentations.

Heh.

It’s hard for me to speculate.
No kidding. Holy Cow!
Now, that would have been a good Bush Biography title, yeah?

Scott Horton coming up after break on democracynow.

Did anyone submit that for the contest?

The truth hurts.

That is THEIR governmental bailout at work, voting shares, no executive parachutes, executive responsibility or “on your bike” hasta la vista baby, don’t let the door hit …., you have the money, get it loaned. No nonsense approach to the problem; not perfect, better than some others attempts.

Another fabulous word. Adding to my dictionary now.
Thanks.

Not to my memory.
(Did you see? Did you see I got a runner-up?)

but…,but….., you hardly look like a day over twenty……. ;-)

GOP wants him to leave early so Crist can appoint someone who will presumably then have an advantage in 2010.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com…..287.column

She’s prolly the best name I’ve seen. I haven’t figured her out yet. Sometimes she does good things then turns around and does stupid shit. If the party here doesn’t get its act together we’ll get beat by a Rethug. Again. There’s a vote for DEC Chair here in Pinellas County shortly. It has taken years to weed out all the old white guys who were more DINO than anything else. Younger crowd now stepping up as precinct captains, etc. We’ll see.

Good on you. I didn’t save the list, so I don’t remember who won what. I thought they were all great and wouldn’t have wanted to be the judge.

nope.

*blushing*

Gonna be interesting. Dems can easily- very easily – blow this.

Martinez says he’s leaving on his own terms. And now he will have two years to decide what to do next — assuming the Republican Party doesn’t ask him to step down early, so that Charlie Crist can name a replacement.

Martinez says he has no plans to play that game. And I believe he’s earnest.

But I also believe he will face pressure to change his mind — from party leaders, maybe even Bush, who would rather handpick a candidate than let voters in on the action.

If so, perhaps Martinez will finally decide it’s OK to say no.

thanks bfl, I knew I saw something like this yesterday.

what about Wexler?

Very funny stuff. We have so many clever folks here.
(Bowing to the Punaiseter, who is our mentor and hero.)

Has Ms Harris’ name been raised as a possibility?

Any idea where the list might have been preserved?

IIRC it was a Sunday morning post by Christy. Maybe last Sunday?

Really don’t know much about him. I’ve been tryin’ to unseat Bill Young for the last 3 cycles and haven’t paid a lot of attention except when they make the news. There’s talk now in Tallahassee of making gerrymandering passe here. The demographics are changing and people are demanding an end to districts that are a hundred yards wide and stretch across the state just to keep Rethugs in office.

Very doubtful it ever will be. I actually felt sorry for her. After what she did for Bush, she got thrown under a bus, picked up and thrown under a train when she ran against Nelson. Justa pathetic campaign. Bush asked her to hold off running in 04 so martinez could and she did. Then when she ran in 06 nobody but nobody campaigned with her or for her. She couldn’t even get a seat on stage at Crist rallies.

LOL ROFLMAO 707.

IIRC it was a Christy post since Thanksgiving

You’d think Rs would have learned their lessons from what happened to her, but no …

Scott Horton sez Holder’s involvement in Chiquita is of no concern. Guess I’ll email him some links from FDL.

What’s this business with Laura all over the airwaves. She’s on my TV right now. Click. Gone.

it was Turkey Friday

please do, it’s of concern

Really. I hurt myself from falling outta my chair laughing. It’s a legitimate question, though, in the sense that people from elsewhere might think that after all she did to help Bush, the Rs would be grateful. Nope. they just don’t know what the word gratitude means. I mean, she’s no loonier that some R senators.

His email is shorton99 AT aol DOT com for those who want to join the pigpile.

Christy’s up
Through the Financial Looking Glass, It’s an Expertiness-By-Proxy Wonderland

Demi, are you still here?

Here is Christy’s Winners Post

She’s gone now. Gramm and Talent warning us to be scared, very very scared.

Yes. I was (unsuccessfully) looking for that post), and now I see others had it.
What up?

Actually Bush did come down here once but:
Bush urged voters to elect Crist as well as a slate of other GOP candidates, including Rep. Katherine Harris, who is mounting a lukewarm challenge to Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. Before the September primary, Republican leaders failed to support Harris, who sat in the audience, not on stage with Bush.

also:
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/08…..sing.shtml

Thank you Eliot and T-Bear. The list was wonderful. There really are some nut cases at FDL!!!!!

Where will sexy sarah the wasilla witch be sitting in a few years?

These are the Windpony flutes I’ll be ordering Friday.

probably growing beside Mz. Harris at the mushroom farm, kept in the dark and fed BS

Both of those species of shrooms are poisonous.

Beautiful. And, more expensive than I would have thought.
Might I suggest you find a drum group to jam with.
(((SD)))

Yeah, I was a little taken aback when I saw the prices of flutes.

Gotta learn how to play it before I make a fool of myself.

Thanks for the link, demi. Rove’s revision of history there sure riled up folks – 617 comments (including mine!). Rove should be in jail, not making fortune telling monstrous lies.

Thanks for the swim, BlueTexan.

You’re welcome. Riled up for very good reasons.

Start with just learning the notes.
You don’t have to know a lot to jam, ya know. :)
If you knew three or four notes, you could play with them. Take your time, it doesn’t have to happen next week. But, you have the Spirit. And that’s what it takes to make music.

Thank you for the link to Windpony flutes, SD.

We never know when a comment touches someone out there in ways unimagined. Long ago and far away, back in 1945, as a child I had a long chrome pipe with holes which I tried unsuccessfully to make into a flute. So, I used my voice for sound. I had the job (at age 11) of staying all day alone in the fields watching our milk cow and a young heifer while they grazed. My mother had died the summer before and the “flute” somehow eased my sorrow.

Think I’ll order one of those as a Christmas gift for myself. (comes with instructions, huh?)

What a beautiful story. May you be blessed with great remembrances of times past.

why doesn’t congress just use the 25B retool moneys and give them another 25B (refund the retool account) after Obama takes office.

Food for thought. Angry B

Thank you for the blessing, Sophie. The story as I lived it wasn’t very attractive. I can see many benefits in it now; made me reflective about everything. May your blessings be returned to you.