Thanks Loosehead!

Hello lhp. I have been reading of various peoples names being floated but whenever I see Cuomo the comments seem either very pro or very negative. Is he really as polarizing as the comments appear to indicate or is he a very strenuous attorney general that just gets enemies because he goes after crooks rather too vigorously? Are there any other viable candidates?

Getting the Shiv! For investigating Pardons? Who was pardoned one of Holder’s clients?

Cuomo’s fine for senator, Nadler is OK too.

Of course, Mr. Cuomo’s high name recognition and successful stint as a statewide officeholder make him a natural object of speculation — not just for the Senate job, but also as a possible future governor, whether or not he has to run against Mr. Paterson. Mr. Cuomo enjoys high approval ratings generally, while a recent Marist College survey showed him leading the pack of potential successors to Mrs. Clinton by a large margin.

http://yourfreepress.blogspot……s-eat.html

Politically it makes sense to promote someone who might otherwise run against you. However what can Andy do for the Guv is my question?
Surely he is not expecting to get this job without making it worth the Guv’s while is he?

Of course, Mr. Cuomo’s high name recognition and successful stint as a statewide officeholder make him a natural object of speculation — not just for the Senate job, but also as a possible future governor, whether or not he has to run against Mr. Paterson. Mr. Cuomo enjoys high approval ratings generally, while a recent Marist College survey showed him leading the pack of potential successors to Mrs. Clinton by a large margin

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Sorry forgot block quotes

I think this shows certain things:
1) That Andy Cuomo is not ‘the fair haired boy’ of NY Democrats – he is not liked.
2) That Andy Cuomo is seen as being built along the same lines as Elliot Spitzer and see number 1 above.

From my perspective as an Upstate NY resident, Cuomo is not the worst they can come up with in terms of replacing Clinton, but he is not the best either. Cuomo doesn’t have nearly the “downstate/New York City taint’ that Suozzi does or that other Dems do and he is seen as more of a total ’statewide’ sort of guy. My feeling is that Paterson really needs to find someone(no matter where they are from) who knows and understands Upstate – this is where Clinton really shone when she ran the first time – she knew she’d have to capture that vote and did the homework to make herself known as someone who ‘gets it’ with regard to Upstate. Schumer is already viewed as ‘Downstate’s Senator’ – Paterson needs to find someone who can win re-election. A couple of first termer Congress Critters are being pushed from the Upstate area – they are too new. I think the person to tap is Maurice Hinchey, whose district stretches from downstate through Upstate. He is seen as someone who understands Upstate and has done a lot for the Upstate Economy (if you believe that ‘doing a lot’ consists of being part of the team that has been able to benefit Lockheed Martin and other military/government based businesses in the Upstate area). He is also well liked.

Wow – Nadjari! That’s a name we haven’t heard in years. I’ll come back to him in a minute.

We have to remember that Wiese, it appeared from press reports at the time, was running his own little Rabkrin on the political powers that be (or were) in NYS. In whose service, the unanswered question. It appeared he and his office were behind the leaks from the NYSP about the domestic violence reports involving now-former Congressman Sweeney from NY-20 that came out just in time to put the final coup on his career. That, and it appeared Wiese and his office (buried somewhere in an independent authority) had wiped all their blackberries and email accounts the day the investigation got around to coming to his door.

So, IMHO, this is not sticking the shiv in Cuomo for Senate – it might be just the opposite to those really in the know. They might want to get him out of there before he really gets anywhere. I’ve long thought that appointing Cuomo to HRC’s seat would be a definitive sign to Wall Street that there would never be any effective investigation, let alone prosecution, of their wrongdoing. Thus, this sort of article would be a sign for those who want him out of Albany (where he could do some damage to them) and off to D.C. (where, as a very junior senator, he couldn’t) to get behind his candidacy for the job.

As to Nadjari, my first lawyer boss had repped someone involved tangentially in that investigation. LEarning the law between spoons of soup as it were, I recall his relating to me that scotching effective investigation was the real effect of that whole mess. When Nadjari and his staff got around to trying someone, they put a young woman attorney (deemed by the boys on the team, first, to be not too good and, second, “just a girl”) in as the lead prosecutor. When she turned out to be an effective prosecutor and looked to be winning the case, there was a janitorial mistake in the courthouse over the weekend and – just by accident – all the documentary evidence was inadvertently thought to be trash and carted away.

Resulting in the case ending in a whimper, not a bang.

That’s Real New York in operation…. And, I suspect, why his name was brought up in the context of this article. No one remembers him 35 or so years later otherwise.

This is the Repiglican’s way of choosing New Yorks future Senator. First they went after Spitzer now it Cuomo! I guess they will whittle away at every possible candidate until the reach, Ta Daaa! Mayor Bloomberg.

Thanks eCAHN ;->

OMG. Hinchey is a DREAM candidate. He’s my guy in the country. I haven’t been following him too closely, but all the lefties around me LUV him, the more centrist folks find him inoffensive, and evey time I pay attention, I like what I see.

Hinchey’s only problem(and it really isn’t one)is that he looks like one of my social studies teachers from the 1960s – he greases his hair and wears checked sportcoats. *g
On the other hand, he was out on the stump screaming about Bush and Cheney long before anyone was, calling for impeachment years ago. People in our county LOVE him. I, unfortunately, am stuck with the odious Mike Arcuri, which is a total DINO, who after one term, almost lost to a complete unknown guy from Cooperstown.

Heh. I specifically did not mention that he should employ a new barber in my comment because I have a tendency to be too negative. *g*

But does he have a chance? Is he on anyone’s list, or did you just post the idea because you like him?

toby – hinchey’s my congressman too & has always made me proud with his votes as they always reflect my liberal opinions…. which is precisely why i don’t think patterson would place him as senator. hinchey speaks truth to power & cuts through, rather then plays around with bullshit. sadly, this is not the m.o. of nys politics & i don’t think patterson is of the mind to go against the status quo.

One t in NYS gov Paterson for future reference.
http://www.state.ny.us/governor/index.html

so repuglitards are complaining ???

the inquiry had “become aimless harassment of (blank) and others, driven not by facts, but by the need to find some justification for the investigation and, I suggest, political motives.”

that statement could be used to sum up the the whole ken star investigation

so what ???

was ken star some kind of criminal or something ???

does ANYBODY realize how ineffectic=ve those repuglitard hissy fits are gonna be ???

when the repuglitards say “Obama did (blank)”, we get to say “you never complained when george bush was TORTURING AND MURDERING PEOPLE, so what’s your problem with (blank)”

the repuglitards lost the right to claim to be law abiding, morally superior, or the right to claim ANY high ground in any ethics conversation

OK..so let Paterson put in Suozzi or someone like that and when he has to run again, the Rethugs will not even have to put up someone above the level of ‘mouth breather’ and that person will win. There is a definite Upstate/Downstate thing. To not recognize it is going to be fatal for Paterson in terms of holding onto two Dem senators from New York. Upstaters are conservative but they are also pragmatists – that’s how we got Bobby Kennedy and HIllary Clinton. Paterson has to give Upstaters someone to vote for who KNOWS Upstate, has a grasp of the history, geography, industry, education. To throw us some slick person from LI or The City will not fly. Unless that person spends their first two years slogging through the snow and mud in Upstate, doing the corn dogs at the State Fair, and visiting every machine shop, Corning Inc. factory and Xerox, etc. across the state, then they are a waste of time as far as Upstaters are concerned. Upstate wants someone who speaks and represents THEM. Downstate, the City and LI already have Sen. “Where’s the Camera?”

He hasn’t been AG very long. I think it is more a question of his personal style, which makes Spitzer look shy and retiring.

As a New Yorker, I find it somewhat disconcerting that he is in such a rush to leave a job he has only recetnly been elected to and which he has not yet made much of an impact on. It kinda suggests that AG is NOT the job he actually ever wanted, doesn’t it?

I am a HUGE Nadler fan

Heh..well LHP, we knew that, didn’t we? When he and Spitzer/Paterson and Clinton were running, they did a run around the state and I got to see them in a hanger at the airport. When Spitzer was speaking, Hillary did her usual “I’m paying real close attention to you”, Paterson of course was looking out but basically facing toward Spitzer and Andy Cuomo had a look on his face that communicated, “I’m next, buddy.”

Hunchey might bet upstate votes, I’ll take Toby’s word for that, but he’s unknown in the counties with lots of Dem votes (NYC and LI), will buffalo go for him? Where do his re-election votes come from?

Hmmmm I frequently find that extremely ambitious politicians have a shortage of principles. Wonderful to get to have so many insights from NY pups. Thanks

You shoulda seen his body language at teh NYS Dem convention… tsk.

Maurice Hinchey will NEVER be awarded by the NYS Democratic Party, he’s got too much integrity and is too principled for them.

The problem I have with Andy Cuomo is that there has never been a convincing explanation for the $59 billion that went missing when he was in charge of HUD.

I’d still like to see Spitzer as a poke in the eye for the people who torpedoed him hoping to get Joe Bruno into office in time to manipulate the NY vote in 2008.

4 – 7 : is there really a chance for either Nadler or Hinchey? Replacing Clinton with either of them would be something, but I don’t know NYT politics to know if they have a chance. If they do – hubba. Even hubba hubba.

Andy Cuomo is a dumbass. Gas prices upstate are higher than hell and you haven’t heard a word from him about it. He could at least make some angry noises if he wants to get reelected. His problem is that he didn’t really have any opposition grabbed ahold of Spitzers coattails and now thinks he’s all that. He’s kind of proving to be Mario’s idiot son. Up here in Buffalo he’s not helping himself. Don’t think he could get reelected the rate he’s going. But I suppose that’s just me. But everyone I know who knows who he is thinks he’s arrogant as hell, and thinks New York ends somewhere around the Catskills. If I were to whisper in Gov Paterson’s ear I would be chanting pick a woman, pick a woman. There’s enough dicks swinging around Congress more women. Whatever.