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	<title>Comments on: Tsk-tsk, Obama Disappointing Karl Rove</title>
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		<title>By: unsinkmolly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/28/tsk-tsk-obama-disappointing-karl-rove/#comment-1741964</link>
		<dc:creator>unsinkmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“His” in first sentence @42 above refers to Obama…. but also throw in the Dem team.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“His” in first sentence @42 above refers to Obama…. but also throw in the Dem team.</p>
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		<title>By: unsinkmolly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/28/tsk-tsk-obama-disappointing-karl-rove/#comment-1741962</link>
		<dc:creator>unsinkmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think we should put his feet to the fire on torture.  (oh dear, that sounded morally contradictory, the metaphor I used, but ya get what I am saying?)  Jonathan Turley (law prof recently on RM show) says there “has never been a brighter line” of illegality and immorality.  And yet, Dems probably don’t have what Turley calls the “intestinal fortitude” to do anything about it, but shove it onto a commission and postpone the messiness that goes with honoring principles.  I’m gonna start hounding Congress, personally, on this issue, though not much hope that it will be honored, sadly.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should put his feet to the fire on torture.  (oh dear, that sounded morally contradictory, the metaphor I used, but ya get what I am saying?)  Jonathan Turley (law prof recently on RM show) says there “has never been a brighter line” of illegality and immorality.  And yet, Dems probably don’t have what Turley calls the “intestinal fortitude” to do anything about it, but shove it onto a commission and postpone the messiness that goes with honoring principles.  I’m gonna start hounding Congress, personally, on this issue, though not much hope that it will be honored, sadly.</p>
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		<title>By: yvonnesantana</title>
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		<dc:creator>yvonnesantana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let’s face it, Obama is in a “your damned if you do,you damned if you don’t” situation.I think they should let him take office before they start shooting him down.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let’s face it, Obama is in a “your damned if you do,you damned if you don’t” situation.I think they should let him take office before they start shooting him down.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good point, and you are exactly right.  FDR had to earn the union vote in the 1930s.  He gave them what they asked for, and they delivered.  It’s ditto for progressives.  I’ve no bones with that.  Good for democracy, too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, and you are exactly right.  FDR had to earn the union vote in the 1930s.  He gave them what they asked for, and they delivered.  It’s ditto for progressives.  I’ve no bones with that.  Good for democracy, too.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/28/tsk-tsk-obama-disappointing-karl-rove/#comment-1741839</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The people BHO has appointed are experienced. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;by and large, their experience consists of getting it wrong and causing all kinds of unnecessary hardship and suffering. there are plenty of experienced people who did not get it so very wrong. why are they not being included?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The people BHO has appointed are experienced. </p>
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<p>by and large, their experience consists of getting it wrong and causing all kinds of unnecessary hardship and suffering. there are plenty of experienced people who did not get it so very wrong. why are they not being included?</p>
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		<title>By: hawkseye36</title>
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		<dc:creator>hawkseye36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The people BHO has appointed are experienced.  No experienced administrator should be left to his/her own devices.  All should have a policy set out for them and supervision by policy makers.&lt;br /&gt;
I believe BHO will govern from the center and center-left as he indicated (to me, at least) from the beginning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people BHO has appointed are experienced.  No experienced administrator should be left to his/her own devices.  All should have a policy set out for them and supervision by policy makers.<br />
I believe BHO will govern from the center and center-left as he indicated (to me, at least) from the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: RevBev</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/28/tsk-tsk-obama-disappointing-karl-rove/#comment-1741814</link>
		<dc:creator>RevBev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am guessing that Karl will keep talking.  It is beyond my credibility,however, to think anyone still wants to listen…esp. those in charge.  I cannot imagine that the Obama team gives a, uh-pardon me, rat’s ass what the man thinks.  Has his time passed or what?  Please.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am guessing that Karl will keep talking.  It is beyond my credibility,however, to think anyone still wants to listen…esp. those in charge.  I cannot imagine that the Obama team gives a, uh-pardon me, rat’s ass what the man thinks.  Has his time passed or what?  Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/28/tsk-tsk-obama-disappointing-karl-rove/#comment-1741808</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;she’s not taking any chances after how mean the media was to her.  asking her what she reads an’ all.  da noive.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>she’s not taking any chances after how mean the media was to her.  asking her what she reads an’ all.  da noive.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think David Gregory is perfectly willing to dance on the shriveled up salty stuff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think David Gregory is perfectly willing to dance on the shriveled up salty stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/11/28/tsk-tsk-obama-disappointing-karl-rove/#comment-1741803</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Still, one thing I learned from the campaign is that Obama does not respect those who do not leverage their political power. Big supporters had their asses handed to him in the end because they got in line behind him and asked nothing in return for their support, while others who knew how to deal are being listened to. And that’s all I’m going to say on that front.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love to read a post on this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still, one thing I learned from the campaign is that Obama does not respect those who do not leverage their political power. Big supporters had their asses handed to him in the end because they got in line behind him and asked nothing in return for their support, while others who knew how to deal are being listened to. And that’s all I’m going to say on that front.</p>
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<p>I love to read a post on this.</p>
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