The Bush family have recorded a Story Corps interview about George W. Bush’s presidential legacy, and what they’re most proud of. This is what Mrs. Bush had to say
Well, it’s certainly been very rewarding to look at Afghanistan and both know that the president and the United States military liberated women there; that women and girls can be in school now; that women can walk outside their doors without a male escort.
I worry about Afghanistan, but I will always have a special place in my heart for the women that I’ve met there, both on my visits to Afghanistan and then the many women from Afghanistan who’ve traveled to the United States on scholarships or with the Afghan American Women’s Council, or with a lot of other ways that American citizens have opened their homes to women in Afghanistan so they can be educated quickly, because they missed their education when they were children or young women, because they weren’t allowed to learn anything.
Well, then. I would have been more charitable, but since Mrs. Bush has chosen this as her legacy, allow me to introduce you to Mrs. Bush’s legacy
Afghan police have arrested 10 Taliban militants involved in an acid attack against 15 girls and teachers walking to school in southern Afghanistan, a provincial governor said Tuesday. "Several" of the arrested militants have confessed to taking part in the attack earlier this month, said Kandahar Gov. Rahmatullah Raufi. He declined to say exactly how many confessed.
High-ranking Taliban fighters paid the militants a total of $2,000 to carry out the attack, Raufi said. The attackers came from Pakistan but were Afghan nationals, said Doud Doud, an Interior Ministry official.
The attackers squirted acid from water bottles onto three groups of students and teachers walking to school in Kandahar city on Nov. 12. Several girls suffered burns to the face and were hospitalized. One teenager couldn’t open her eyes days after the attack, which sparked condemnation from around the world…
Kandahar province’s schools serve 110,000 students at 232 schools, Raufi said. But only 10 of the 232 are for girls. Some 26,000 girls go to school, he said.
Arsonists have repeatedly attacked girls’ schools and gunmen killed two students walking outside a girls’ school in central Logar province last year. UNICEF says there were 236 school-related attacks in Afghanistan in 2007.
And those school-related attacks are mostly aimed at:
Girls schools have suffered a disproportionately high number of attacks in recent years, according to a recent report by the United Nations.
The aid group UNICEF counted 722 violent incidents affecting education between 2004 and mid-2008. Half of the incidents targeted girls schools, even though less than 15 per cent of Afghanistan’s schools allow female education.
And how, in an occupied country where the situation was so settled that we could leave it to go to war with a disarmed Iraq, did the Taliban gain the ability to attack little girls with impunity?
For seven years, the Bush administration has pursued al Qaida but done almost nothing to hunt down the Afghan Taliban leadership in its sanctuaries in Pakistan , and that’s left Mullah Mohammad Omar and his deputies free to direct an escalating war against the U.S.-backed Afghan government.
The administration’s decision, U.S. and NATO officials said, has allowed the Taliban to regroup, rearm and recruit at bases in southwestern Pakistan . Since the puritanical Islamic movement’s resurgence began in early 2005, it’s killed at least 626 U.S.-led NATO troops, 301 of them Americans, along with thousands of Afghans, and handed President-elect Barack Obama a growing guerrilla war with no end in sight.
Violence in Afghanistan is at its highest levels since 2001; the Taliban and other al Qaida -allied groups control large swaths of the south and east; NATO governments are reluctant to send more troops; and Afghan President Hamid Karzai faces an uncertain future amid fears that elections set for next year may have to be postponed.
Nevertheless, a U.S. defense official told McClatchy : "We have not seen any pressure on the Pakistanis" to crack down on Omar and his deputies and close their arms and recruiting networks. Like seven other U.S. and NATO officials who discussed the issue, he requested anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak publicly.
"There has never been convergence on a campaign plan against Mullah Omar," said a U.S. military official. The Bush administration, he said, miscalculated by hoping that Omar and his deputies would embrace an Afghan government-run reconciliation effort or "wither away" as their insurgency was destroyed.
Many U.S. and NATO officials, in fact, are convinced that while Pakistan is officially a U.S. ally in the war against Islamic extremism, sympathetic Pakistani army and intelligence officers bent on returning a pro-Pakistan Islamic regime to Kabul are protecting and aiding the Taliban leadership, dubbed the Quetta shura, or council, after its sanctuary in the Baluchistan provincial capital of Quetta.
Wounded Taliban fighters are treated in Pakistani military hospitals in Baluchistan, and guerrillas who run out of ammunition have been monitored dashing across the frontier of sweeping desert and rolling hills to restock at caches on the Pakistani side, the U.S. and NATO officials said.
Not that President Bush’s buddy (you know, the guy we sold all those weapons to) Musharraf sees it that way:
The Pakistani president dismissed Karzai’s contention that Pakistani intelligence was complicit in providing safe haven to Taliban leaders like Mullah Omar. Karzai said last week he could give Musharraf the telephone digits, address, and GPS number of Omar’s hideout in Quetta.
“For intelligence to be effective, it should be immediate,” Musharraf said. “No target sits there for three months. If you give me those numbers and addresses, we knew they’d be all wrong. Most were absolutely nonsense. There were peaceful people living there.”…
Musharraf said the Palestinian conflict remained the principal motivating force behind suicide bombers. “If you’re dealing with Iraq or Lebanon [first], you are putting cart before the horse,” he said. “Palestine is the core issue driving people to terrorism.”
He addressed the rise of anti-Americanism in Pakistan, admitting it was a problem lingering from the period between 1989 and 2001 when relations between the United States and Pakistan were strained.
Musharraf’s talk before the Council, moderated by former U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, officially marked the release of his new autobiography, In the Line of Fire: A Memoir.
The book has become a source of controversy in recent days. Echoing passages in the memoir, Musharraf told the CBS Television program 60 Minutes on Sunday that Pakistan was threatened immediately after 9/11 by a senior U.S. official to take America’s side in the war on terror or be bombed back to the “Stone Age.” The episode, he wrote, made him so mad he “war-gamed the United States as an adversary."
Bush has, we’re told, decided to talk to the Taliban.
Heckuva job, Laura. Have a drink.




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Good evening, Julia.
Good evening.
Two words: The Hague.
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Heckuva job, Laura, you stupid fuck.
from your lips (fingers?) to god’s ears.
That little girl is the spitting image of a friend of my daughter’s from elementary school who was born in Pakistan. I’m horrified that we’ve chosen to let this happen.
pickles has already had a few too many julia – otherwise she would be tossing her cookies about what she is so fucking proud of
w3rd
i think pickles can partially redeem herself by personally escorting girls and their teachers to and from school every day – not just when there are cameras around.
At one point she was going to go there and give afghani women her support – but then Oprah cancelled
Truthfully, I don’t give a quarter of a damn at this point what Pickles does to redeem herself. I just want her and her tinpot husband to shut up and go the fuck away until the Hague comes to collect them.
exactly – if there are not cameras, bush co don’t do nothing.
nothing good, anyway.
hello, Suzanne.
And if there are cameras, they just pretend.
There is a young Afghan woman here at the university who was a student of mine a few years ago and to whom I still speak occasionally. Everytime I see these stories I despair of what will happen to her when she must return home. So much light to be snuffed out or hidden away.
Rendition him to the Taliban somewhere along the Afghan-Pakistan border…EDITED BY MODERATOR.
~~~ModNote: Keep violent content directed at anyone off these pages.~~~
Oh, no kidding. HM’s friend, who I was tutoring, was slated to stay back a year (I suspect that her education didn’t match her age, because she really wasn’t reading to grade level) and her uncle was threatening if she wasn’t promoted to send her back to Pakistan, where she most likely wouldn’t have been educated at all.
Does anyone know if any of these girls schools that have been targetted are the ones that Greg Mortenson built? Or is there any way to find out?
You meet these young women who have come here from Afghanistan (and we have several here) and they are so excited, eager to learn, so full of life. Then you think about what is happening in their homeland, what their families are going through, and what they will likely have to return to and it simply breaks your heart.
how fucking sad – our leaders have damaged and fucked up so many people worldwide it seems as if we will never be able to fix all the wrong that has been done in our name
We can never repair what has been done. We can only try to minimize the wreckage and try not to do any more damage.
Greg Mortenson started the Central Asia Institute in 1996. He has, personally and through CAI, raised enough money to build 78 schools in Afghanistan and northern Pakistan. Most of them are schools for girls. The locals pick out the site and do most of the work themselves. Greg and CAI provide building materials, and then books and other instructional materials. They are currently getting books for the first full-fledged library at one of the schools that is kind of centrally located.
If anyone wants to donate, http://www.ikat.org
You can read more about this in Three Cups of Tea by Greg Mortenson
I wonder if Laura Bush is in a bubble, being spoon-fed sugar-coated information, without a clue about the reality that is Afghanistan right now, or if she is just insensitive, or dumb.
Oh, I think Laura Bush has spent most of her life carefully cocooned inside a nice secure pastel bubble where no bad thoughts can ever get in.
She certainly would never have thought of running down her ex-boyfriend.
I saw today where some poor bastard was sentenced to be blinded by having acid poured into his eyes.
That is insane.
These same people hand down sentences of death by stoning, cutting a hand off for stealing, and any kind of horrible punishment you can possibly imagine.
We do it different, we send you to rot in jail for smoking a joint.
I do believe there are some similarities between these two judicial bodies, except death by insanity seems to be the sentence of preference here and just plain insanity is the sentence there.
Yeah, that’s what she said when some reporter asked what was going to be in her ‘memoir’. She replied that she was only going to write about positive things that had happened and was not going to be ‘dishing any dirt’ on anyone.
Ooookaaaay.
LOL how could she be married to GWBush and have “no bad thoughts”?
heavy medication is one theory…
Don’t forget – that guy poured acid on someone else and blinded and totally disfigured them. In Iran (where this happened) they do use the eye for an eye retribution punishment. The guy also had to pay for the woman’s medical treatments and multiple surgeries too. He claimed he did it because that way she would be ‘his’ forever.
The woman had rejected his proposals of marriage. Ya think?
Real short book, I take it.
Oh, god, yeah – and I want to let my own kid know how privileged she is to have a chance to be educated, but I’d really love to protect her from knowing how it is for girls in most of the world.
So she is going to cover an eight-year period in the White House without a single reference to the man who was vice president throughout that time? I guess she can write about all the schools and libraries she visited, not the sort of stuff that historians will think much of…
Have you taken a close look at her photos? She makes the Stepford Wives look animated.
That’s going to be one fucking short memoir.
hence the nickname of pickles
Where’s my goggles?
There are many ways to be blind…
I have seen that look in her eye (in photos)…”the lights are on, but nobody’s home,” except in her case even the lights are pretty dim…
Joy of joys, I get to teach this stuff next semester when I teach the anthropology of gender. Some fun and wonderful stuff as well, but between the gender class and my race and ethnicity class, I have a feeling it is not going to be a bright and sunny semester.
pretty grim narratives, eh, DrDick?
Well, she can spend two or three chapters on planning Jenna’s wedding.
And a couple about her house-hunting for HER new pad after the divorce.
Oops, I guess divorce isn’t a positive thought.
OTOH, maybe it is…
following in her mother-in-law’s footsteps of not getting her beautiful mind dirty thinking about the ramifications of what has been done.
what percentage of your students will “get” it, do you think?
Well, at least she got some publisher actually interested in what she’s writing.
Dubya on the other hand, not so much.
maybe it will go over with readers who enjoy fairy tales…
or the xanax crowd
Well, while not universal (one of the bright sides), male dominance is pretty pervasive in the world so I get to talk a lot about gender disparities and their causes. Also, the whole reason for ethnic groups (which includes “racial” groups), is competition for resources. That generally does not lead to rainbows and ponies, so that class is about ethnic conflict and ethnic disparities. If you ever want to get really depressed spend some time rooting around in the census data and other government reports on racial and ethnic differences in the US.
The entire Bush Crime Family right down to that damn biting scottie dog of theirs is delusional and mean. Laura Bush met the hand-picked well-off women and has lived in the same bubble of rose-colored glasses and willful ignorance as her pretzel-molesting short-timer husband.
My guess: when the are “retired” they’ll be divorced in less than five years, especially if Babs kicks the bucket Queen Xanax is marginally smarter than The Nekkid Chimperor and will either replace Babs as Matriarch or head for the Redneck Riviera with Not-Jenna and retire to write childrens books.
It’s no surprise to anyone who has been following the Afghan Debacle that the resurgent Taliban was going to be headed down this path. There was never any “peace” in that country, just a “sitzkrieg” that allowed the Taliban to rest, recover and regroup in Pakistan before coming back to terrorize their own people. Nice Job, Assholes. Way to take youe eyes off teh ball.
The lady should know her audience very well.
Hey Suz. Hi Julia!
I’ve often wondered why, after so many years of marriage to Dumbya that she, a librarian for crying out loud, couldn’t teach him how to say ‘nuclear’ properly.
Take it easy on Barney – Dubya dropped him on his head so he has an excuse.
It is a life skill for the disengage women of America’s elites. Call it the Carmella Soprano syndrome. Then of course there the Clare Booth Luce full on Ma Barker approach, which the Bush women seem to avoid.
Most of them. It is really one of the more uplifting parts of the course to see the dawning light in the eyes of these largely sheltered white kids from Montana. The gender class is actually even more fun, since gender systems tend to be all over the map. It is one of those classes where you get to make students’ heads explode by exposing them to things they literally could not imagine and which are real.
then barney should not have bit the reporter since it was not the reporter who dumped him on his head
Have done, and needed the xanax afterwards. Makes you sick – that things can be so bad right here.
In Humboldt County California the median income is around $39,000 per year which seems high, and makes it hard for non-profits to get grants.
What that hides though is this other little tidbit. It is skewed very high by the presence of 87 people who make more than $1 million per year. And that more than compensates for the families with kids, 117 of them who were living on less than $5,000 per year.
The total irony, the millionaires were mostly liviing in the one gated community in McKinleyville. The walls had broken glass and razor wire on top. And if you drove around to the back end of that high end development, buried in the Himalaya berries behind the rusting hulks of cars and right up against the wall, were some of those ‘other’ families.
Reporter was invading his space without a proper introduction.
I find Marx a better prescription for what ails us.
Yes, if only the practice could be as good as the theory.
Not to cut Barney too much slack, but what kinda clown introduces himself to a strange dog by trying to pat him on the top of the head, palm down?
Probably not. But it’s better than not knowing.
The secret is to avoid centralization and dictatorships – even of the proletariat. Both of those were mostly Lenin, who was a authoritarian asshat, anyway.
Ab-so-fucking-lute-ly!
It is interesting how all these leaders that cast their lot with Bush in his war of terror ended up being voted out of office (Great Britain and Australia) or thrown out of office, like Musharraf, and all of them ended up with nothing but a damaged legacy to show for it.
Rendition to Iraq would be fair enough.
I wonder if Babs Bush’s bleeding ulcer has anything to do with the fact that Laura is gonna be publishing her memoirs pretty soon?
I think that “Pickles, My Ass!!” would be a nice title….
He who lays down with dogs ….
‘Zackly! Although the handler is partly to blame. Scotties are notoriously cranky as they get older, and they are also famously one-person dogs so this behavior wouldn’t be too unusual for this breed – even if he hadn’t been dropped on his head.
And no one should ever try to pat any dog without putting your hand out first for them to smell, wait for a tail wag and then pat. If no tail wag – skip the pat.
hey, you.
I’m off to spend the day in the hospital with an ailing relative who’s been shuttled around between various hospitals because his condition might involve liability – me, I just want to know which badly-decorated waiting room to sit in.
Enjoy your family, folks. It’s a privilege.
Ah….the ’secret’. And this, boys and girls is why no system ever performs to the theory! There is always a secret that never gets put into practice.
Night, Julia.
sending some calming soothing thoughts your way and healing positive thoughts for your relative julia
((Julia and relative))
Don’t sit in the waiting room. Be with your relative. Unless they are giving them a bath or performing some medical procedure, stay with them.
Take care!
Hey you, back!
Sounds like the saints are living vicariously through you these days. I’m familiar with that hospital two-step.
And it’s not the one with the green walls.
Bless you (from someone who can lay no claim to blessings of any kind).
Nah, the real problem is that the assholes always wind up in charge and totally fuck everything up. Look at the French Revolution. Off to such a nice start with tumbrels and everything and then went straight down the crapper and ushered in that delusional midget.
It’s good to know that your students will have the correct take-away from your classes.
Bravo, Doctor!
Of course, don’t you understand? That IS the secret – the a**holes always wind up in charge, no matter what. It’s just the way the world works!
That’s mostly because all they care about is power and wealth and will do anything to get it. Most of us have other priorities and there are limits to what we will do to acquire power and wealth. Karl Rove demonstrated how difficult it is for most people to respond effectively to that single minded pursuit of power.
Yes, that’s because the rest of us cannot understand how they can think/be that way, and that’s why we have a difficult time responding. In order to be an effective responder you have to understand the motivation of the other person – and most of us cannot begin to fathom that mindset.
Yep.
Agreed. But it’s instructive to behold the team he built to champion it, and the institutions he corrupted (although they were pretty ripe for it) to build it.
They are the worst of all the dregs, but they were mighty effective for a long time.
I remember back in December 2002, I was hearing all of these wonderful promises about how the US would rebuild Iraq after “Shock & Awe.” I looked at how Afghanistan was being reconstructed at the time and said “Nope. Ain’t gonna happen.”
I used exactly the same theory we used in Navy boot camp. If y’all can’t fold a pair of socks to “inspection standards,” y’all can’t be trusted to tweak a helicopter engine.
When one is doing a job, one does it the same way regardless of how important it is. If you count up your comic books carefully, you’ll probably do your income taxes correctly as well. If you do a lousy, careless job setting the dinner table, you’ll probably do a lousy job driving through a crowded parking lot as well.
Truth is that greed and selfishness are always destructive and that is what drives them.
the greed monster always wants more, no matter how much it has
Time to trundle my diseased body off to bed. Take care and if you believe in such things say a little prayer for our souls (if they exist).
That may be true in some instances. But there are always exceptions. Consider brilliant musicians/composers like Debussy and WA Mozart. It is a good thing their wives were patient with them, they would forget to eat, their offices were a shambles, and half the time they didn’t care if it was day or night when they were working. But the music? To die for.
I know writers and artists that way, their houses, studios, or whatever are heaped with stuff and so disorganized you cannot believe it. But the product that comes out, wow!
I’ve been to Dale Chuliuly’s workshop. What a mess. But there is no mistaking his work – pure genius. So, I doubt any of them could fold up a sock to inspection standards (I do know what that is – USN 1969-1972) but I completely forgive them and I would be happy to fold their socks for them. *g*
Night Dr Dick.
g’nite dr dick (and any other leaving sleepy pup i may have missed while snacking on trolls)
Nite Dr.D
be excellent.
Toothpick, dear?
pepto please – trolls give me such heartburn – i think its all the hot air they contain
I was going to offer a lettuce salad – really good for cooling ‘hot peppers’. *g*
all year long!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7vyBpspBJQ
And thanks for all the good work you do to keep this place a civil place to be.
on behalf of the entire mod squad, thank you
Who is doing LLN tonight?
eureka springs has late late nite upstairs
Thanx Suz!
Doode was sentenced for acid in his eyes cuz he poured acid in the eyes of his wanna be girl friend . . . how do you PUNISH a guy, for pouring acid on his girl that spurns him?
My point would be there’s something fucked up with a culture that says you CAN pour acid on women for any reason (in many cases it’s acceptable if yer in fundie Islam Land) . . . . start with that premise, and you gotta kill a lot of sick male people to fix THAT shit.
Cuz you won’t socialize that crap out of a religon or a culture with jobs, employment, or any other means.
It’s been ingrained, for more than a thousand years or more for religon to be used to control the masses by the wealthy.
I got no answers for other cultures.
USA is still dealing with racism and brutality of women issues on our own.
I got no answers for us either, other than to not let it go down if you are present . . . frustrating as hell. Here’s to you, yer knuckles and the varmit kitties . . . hope yer neighbors are fallin in line . . ;-)
Our local paper the Seattle PI posted a picture story on their page 2 items-of-interest with photos section. 2 photos with under printed sentences that haunt me to this day. 3 months later. The photo of 2 so very young Afghan women in the moments before their execution for being prostitutes for the American forces. As according to Taliban Rule.
The words under the first picture of two shrouded women with hands so young it made my heart break said, ” Two Afghan women chat moments before their execution.”
The second picture was of their bodies in the desert,with onlookers, with the statement that although the village protested the young women’s innocence, The Taliban forbid the removal of their bodies.
I was outraged and called the International editor to tell him he had inflicted hell on me with his section.He had no idea what I was talking about. Turned out it was printed for the early morning Northern edition by the B Team on his day off. The vile copy I held in my hand wasn’t even on his computer.
I still wonder…were those words the most heartless words ever printed?!?
Or was it an incredible act of bravery and resistance to create the true scenario for one brief moment.?.
It imprinted my life forever.
Those young women’s hands were SO young.My daughter’s hands. Chatting. Chatting as young women will. Knowing your body was going to lay in the community for days,or, whoever moves it, whoever honors you, would suffer a similar fate. Chatting.
No disrespect Julia, but you don’t do your daughters an honorable or knowledgeable upbringing if you don’t educated them about what goes on in the REAL world…
This would be the Taliban that Grover Norquist wants to do business with?
No, that’s true. I just wish it weren’t necessary.
That’s either gonna be a very short book or a work of fiction.